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1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?
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1/22/2016 4:30:06 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Religious zealots believe that some God created us all equally.
People of science have since observed that this is a lie.

The scientific solution to this real problem is the redistribution of resources from those with lucky genes to those with crappy genes; a sort of reverse Darwinism.

This pisses religious people off, and also racists as they discover skin color doesn't really affect genes critical to a long productive life.

The scientists are winning.
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1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?
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1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.
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1/22/2016 9:31:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Wait. So, I can't understand a principal of science while supporting a political ideology?
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1/22/2016 9:49:04 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

You don't even know what Darwinism is do you?
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1/22/2016 10:05:02 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Because he'd be a good president and he isn't actually a complete socialist, his anti-extreme capitalism will keep him from being corrupt.
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1/22/2016 10:05:39 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Good point, socialism isn't bad nor is capitalism, though a mix of both is the best.
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1/22/2016 11:10:01 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 10:05:39 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Good point, socialism isn't bad nor is capitalism, though a mix of both is the best.

We have been mixing socialism in our system since day one. This "socialism bad" (Frankenstein voice) is just so much garbage.
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1/22/2016 11:10:52 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:10:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 10:05:39 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Good point, socialism isn't bad nor is capitalism, though a mix of both is the best.

We have been mixing socialism in our system since day one. This "socialism bad" (Frankenstein voice) is just so much garbage.

I didn't say socialism is bad at all.
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1/22/2016 11:11:52 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:10:52 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 10:05:39 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Good point, socialism isn't bad nor is capitalism, though a mix of both is the best.

We have been mixing socialism in our system since day one. This "socialism bad" (Frankenstein voice) is just so much garbage.

I didn't say socialism is bad at all.

Right, no. I was agreeing with you.
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1/22/2016 11:13:13 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:11:52 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:52 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 10:05:39 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Good point, socialism isn't bad nor is capitalism, though a mix of both is the best.

We have been mixing socialism in our system since day one. This "socialism bad" (Frankenstein voice) is just so much garbage.

I didn't say socialism is bad at all.

Right, no. I was agreeing with you.

Ok lol
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1/22/2016 11:27:27 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
*Gasp*
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here,
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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1/22/2016 11:28:47 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
https://media.giphy.com...
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here,
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

-Syd Barrett

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1/22/2016 11:43:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:11:52 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:52 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 10:05:39 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Good point, socialism isn't bad nor is capitalism, though a mix of both is the best.

We have been mixing socialism in our system since day one. This "socialism bad" (Frankenstein voice) is just so much garbage.

I didn't say socialism is bad at all.

Right, no. I was agreeing with you.

I agree as well. No reason why you cant both promote superior genes and take care of the weak genes at the same time.
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1/22/2016 11:43:22 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:28:47 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
https://media.giphy.com...

Well, I just never! I herd that on the news, and was like "what on earth is this world coming too". First a <wisper> "black man" and now this! Next its the homos and atheists!
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1/22/2016 11:45:27 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:43:07 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:11:52 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:52 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 10:05:39 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Good point, socialism isn't bad nor is capitalism, though a mix of both is the best.

We have been mixing socialism in our system since day one. This "socialism bad" (Frankenstein voice) is just so much garbage.

I didn't say socialism is bad at all.

Right, no. I was agreeing with you.

I agree as well. No reason why you cant both promote superior genes and take care of the weak genes at the same time.

So, the only good genes are the ones that come from the wealthy? This is so foolish, I have no idea why I am even responding to this.
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1/22/2016 11:47:15 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:43:22 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:28:47 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
https://media.giphy.com...

Well, I just never! I herd that on the news, and was like "what on earth is this world coming too". First a <wisper> "black man" and now this! Next its the homos and atheists!

Well, you sort of have the latter already.

"I'm not particularly religious." -Bernie Sanders
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here,
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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1/22/2016 11:49:42 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:43:22 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:28:47 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
https://media.giphy.com...

Well, I just never! I herd that on the news, and was like "what on earth is this world coming too". First a <wisper> "black man" and now this! Next its the homos and atheists!

http://www.theblaze.com...
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1/22/2016 11:52:50 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:45:27 PM, TBR wrote:

I agree as well. No reason why you cant both promote superior genes and take care of the weak genes at the same time.

So, the only good genes are the ones that come from the wealthy? This is so foolish, I have no idea why I am even responding to this.

Only the good genes can game the free market system. You really don't think smart people make worse trades than stupid people, do you? Free market has always been that way. The fool and his money are soon parted. Why do you think job interviews and testing (some jobs require medical testing too!) even exist if not for a genetic ability screening process? Duh.
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1/22/2016 11:57:49 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:52:50 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:45:27 PM, TBR wrote:

I agree as well. No reason why you cant both promote superior genes and take care of the weak genes at the same time.

So, the only good genes are the ones that come from the wealthy? This is so foolish, I have no idea why I am even responding to this.

Only the good genes can game the free market system. You really don't think smart people make worse trades than stupid people, do you? Free market has always been that way. The fool and his money are soon parted. Why do you think job interviews and testing (some jobs require medical testing too!) even exist if not for a genetic ability screening process? Duh.

There is very little connection between "smart" and the ability (or desire) to gather capital. Your premises is faulty on that count, AND on the fact that most gathered wealth is not from the people who "gamed the market" in the first place.

No. "Go genes" has nothing to do with capitalism. This is top-grade junk.
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1/23/2016 12:03:09 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:57:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:52:50 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:45:27 PM, TBR wrote:

I agree as well. No reason why you cant both promote superior genes and take care of the weak genes at the same time.

So, the only good genes are the ones that come from the wealthy? This is so foolish, I have no idea why I am even responding to this.

Only the good genes can game the free market system. You really don't think smart people make worse trades than stupid people, do you? Free market has always been that way. The fool and his money are soon parted. Why do you think job interviews and testing (some jobs require medical testing too!) even exist if not for a genetic ability screening process? Duh.

There is very little connection between "smart" and the ability (or desire) to gather capital. Your premises is faulty on that count, AND on the fact that most gathered wealth is not from the people who "gamed the market" in the first place.

No. "Go genes" has nothing to do with capitalism. This is top-grade junk.

90% sure he's trolling.
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1/23/2016 12:07:46 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:57:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:52:50 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:45:27 PM, TBR wrote:

I agree as well. No reason why you cant both promote superior genes and take care of the weak genes at the same time.

So, the only good genes are the ones that come from the wealthy? This is so foolish, I have no idea why I am even responding to this.

Only the good genes can game the free market system. You really don't think smart people make worse trades than stupid people, do you? Free market has always been that way. The fool and his money are soon parted. Why do you think job interviews and testing (some jobs require medical testing too!) even exist if not for a genetic ability screening process? Duh.

There is very little connection between "smart" and the ability (or desire) to gather capital. Your premises is faulty on that count, AND on the fact that most gathered wealth is not from the people who "gamed the market" in the first place.

No. "Good genes" has nothing to do with capitalism. This is top-grade junk.

lol
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1/23/2016 12:12:46 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/23/2016 12:10:25 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
Smart people will always find a way to remove the wealth from a stupid person. If they are allowed to in a free market.
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1/23/2016 12:13:31 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

I'll take Darwinism over Socialism any day.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/23/2016 12:13:55 AM
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At 1/23/2016 12:13:31 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

I'll take Darwinism over Socialism any day.

Then you have no heart.
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1/23/2016 12:14:26 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 10:05:02 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Because he'd be a good president and he isn't actually a complete socialist, his anti-extreme capitalism will keep him from being corrupt.

HAHAHHA. As if being anti Capitalism means that someone won't become corrupt.

Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Zedong, etc. were all anti-Capitalists, yet they were some of the most corrupt officials of the 20th century. Your argument is inane.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/23/2016 12:15:30 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/22/2016 11:43:07 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:11:52 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:52 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 11:10:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 10:05:39 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

Good point, socialism isn't bad nor is capitalism, though a mix of both is the best.

We have been mixing socialism in our system since day one. This "socialism bad" (Frankenstein voice) is just so much garbage.

I didn't say socialism is bad at all.

Right, no. I was agreeing with you.

I agree as well. No reason why you cant both promote superior genes and take care of the weak genes at the same time.

Since when is taking care of others a Socialist policy? Need I remind you that we spend 400 billion annually on charities, which do far more than welfare (Socialist policy).
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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1/23/2016 12:16:04 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/23/2016 12:13:55 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/23/2016 12:13:31 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 1/22/2016 9:15:00 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 1/22/2016 8:47:34 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/22/2016 4:10:32 PM, Maryland247 wrote:
Why would you want to vote for a president that basically supports a form of government our country has been opposing for years?

Who says the "government" is opposed to any political ideology?

Also, Free Market capitalism fully supports Darwinism.

So you are either a Darwinist, and want humanity to become all powerful, dominant, and the fittest thing on the planet.

Or a Socialist, who wants humanity to have meaning; even if that means keeping crappy genes in the pool.

I'll take Darwinism over Socialism any day.

Then you have no heart.

I find nothing wrong with that. If you read my other forum posts you will see how I find no meaning in keeping those who cannot help themselves alive.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.