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1/26/2016 4:01:04 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Here's how this works: I will make up about 7 or 8 candidates who are vying to be the Democratic Nominee in an alternate universe, and Democrats on this site are invited to pick which one they would support the most out of those listed. For each candidate I will list the main 'theme' they are campaigning on, and also list their biggest detraction/flaw. If this goes well enough I'll do a Republican version of this as well. All other stances on issues are implied to be the same as what is adopted by most democrats, unless otherwise stated via their 'flaw'. If their stance on gay marriage isnt outlined, its implied that they are for it like the rest of the candidates in the party.

Candidate 1)

The first one into the race, this candidate's main theme is rebuilding the nation's infrastructure as part of a giant stimulus to spur economic growth. He has some plans for funding this proposal that collects revenue from a variety of different sources, economists estimate that this candidate can secure about 80% of the funding his proposal requires.

Downside:

This guy is heavily pro-life. He is a vocal critic of Planned Parenthood, wants to defund it completely, believes that life begins at conception, and is willing to appoint conservative judges to the Supreme Court to oppose any pro-choice cases that makes it to their desks.

Candidate 2)

The second person into the race, this candidate's campaign theme is education reform, which ranges from overhauling programs like No Child Left Behind and Common Core and freeing up loads of funding for public schools. This candidate also has about 80% of his proposal funded, many experts believe his policies will improve the system drastically, and he also has proposals regarding student loan debt in colleges that many people praise.

Downside:

The means he wants to use to pay for these programs comes almost entirely from increased taxation on the poor, such as switching to taxation based on a flat income system and jacking up the sales tax rather than raising taxes on the rich. He wouldnt give tax cuts to the rich, but his plan overwhelmingly favors raising taxes on the poor rather than the rich for some reason, and the candidate is adamant about keeping it that way

Candidate 3)

This candidate is believed to have the best chance to win a general election contest, who has the most experience in high levels of government and is also the only candidate who has held cabinet positions under multiple presidents. This candidates main theme is foreign policy and improving the US's image through diplomacy rather than use of force, and the international community is rooting for this person to win the nomination out of all the other candidates. This person is very reserved about getting the US into wars without an exit strategy, and is open to canceling unneeded weapons programs to decrease spending

Downside:

This candidate would repeal Obamacare on day 1 due to a borderline-irrational objection to the mandate requiring people to have health insurance. Rather than get rid of just the mandate, this candidate wants to scrap the entire system, and has failed to provide an alternate healthcare system to implement in its place despite wanting to kill Obamacare.

Candidate 4)

This candidate was just barely passed over for VP by the previous president who has extensive service in intelligence departments like the CIA, the FBI, the Army, and even Special Forces. He is campaigning on overhauling intelligence gathering to make America much safer from terrorist attacks at home and abroad, and the proposals he has set forth to do this look like they would succeed in thwarting terrorists, though not with 100% efficiency. He also is very respectful of civil rights, and has ideas to scale down, but not end, mass collection of emails, texts, etc.

Downside:

This guy is incredibly racist, who has said several disparaging things about blacks, hispanics, women, the president himself, and even white people. He only offers half hearted apologies every time he says something that outrages people, which many people dont buy as sincere due to how frequently he steps out of line time and time again. Many believe if he won the nomination that the minority vote would switch to the GOP in the general election and is decimating the idea of the Democratic party being the 'Big Tent' party open to everyone.

Candidate 5)

This candidate was a former Republican who turned Democrat who is campaigning on what he believes is sensible gun control, benchmarked (teehee) by increased background checks and providing more funding to the ATF (Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms) to enforce gun regulations better. He is opposed to assault-style weapons bans but believes actual assault rifles and machine guns should be banned, is open to the idea of universal conceal carry laws, and many believe that he is the best chance the US will have for passing gun control legislation for the next 40 or 50 years.

Downside:

This person has a very irrational hatred for unions, believing that they are a burden to economic growth whose existence is no longer needed and should all be abolished. Many unions rail against this candidate for being so anti-union, where he has compared unions to being worse than Isis and Al Qaeda, but the candidate has an unbreakable will to dissolve unions if elected president, more so than passing gun control legislation according to some people.

Candidate 6)

An openly gay candidate running for president, she is also a minority whose platform centers around fighting poverty and helping out those who have the least in life. She was a former cabinet member of Urban Development, where she made great strides in fighting poverty in inner-cities in the limited time she had, and many see her as an outstanding Vice Presidential candidate for whoever else wins the nomination if it doesnt turn out to be her. She is also for raising the minimum wage to $13 an hour over time, and also reforming welfare to root out those who only choose not to work to collect benefits.

Downside:

She is very pro-military and pro-intervention of other countries for even the most minor offenses of human rights. She has gone on record many times listing over a dozen countries she believes the US should intervene in militaristically, including Iraq, each time for humanitarian causes but with no proposed exit strategy for each case. She wants to jack up military spending more than most of the GOP candidates running on the other side, and has no means at all for paying for the increased funding of the military and domestic programs she is campaigning on. She is considered the most dangerous candidate in terms of overall spending and plunging the nation deeper into debt.

Candidate 7)

An Iraq War vet who is the youngest in the race, this person is the true 'outsider' in the field who has never held political office and rails against the corruption of other politicians. He is leading a grassroots movement against Wall Street and millionaire donors, making him the poster-child for both campaign finance reform and stamping out corruption in the government in order to restore its integrity. Nobody questions his devotion and no other candidate can match this person's will and ferocity to bring about the reforms he wants to install.

Downside:

This person hates the GOP more than any other candidate, and many doubt that the GOP will be willing to work with him to pass his reforms just because of the comments he has slung at their party. He has accused the GOP of being terrorists, zealots, murderers, and the swine of the Earth, even attacking moderate GOP politicians who Democrats have a good amount of respect towards just for being Republicans. He frequently uses curse words in denouncing the GOP rivals, even slinging a racial slur at one of them that the public wont hear ab
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1/26/2016 4:11:03 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
"even slinging a racial slur at one of them that the public wont hear about until the general election rolls around"

^ Dont know how that got cut off at the end there.
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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1/26/2016 4:13:13 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:11:09 PM, TBR wrote:
Thinking about it.

1 & 6 are out.

I tried to make these real head-scratchers cause I have objections to all of these guys that would be deal-breakers for me, and I wanna see what others think :)
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org...
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1/26/2016 5:22:23 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
These are real head scratchers, a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
My deal breakers:

#1 Can't send women back into the dark ages

#2 A flat tax is a ridiculous premise

#4 Racism hurts the country on many levels.

#6 Military interventions on this proposed scale will not fly with the public once the death toll of young people start to pile up, as well as the financial costs.

#7 A gridlocked government is an accomplish nothing government. Did I hear someone say Cruz?
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1/26/2016 5:32:57 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 5:22:23 PM, Peepette wrote:
These are real head scratchers, a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
My deal breakers:

#1 Can't send women back into the dark ages

#2 A flat tax is a ridiculous premise

#4 Racism hurts the country on many levels.

#6 Military interventions on this proposed scale will not fly with the public once the death toll of young people start to pile up, as well as the financial costs.

#7 A gridlocked government is an accomplish nothing government. Did I hear someone say Cruz?

Sounds like youre torn between the Union hater and the Obamacare hater
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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1/26/2016 5:38:24 PM
Posted: 10 months ago


Candidate 1)

The first one into the race, this candidate's main theme is rebuilding the nation's infrastructure as part of a giant stimulus to spur economic growth. He has some plans for funding this proposal that collects revenue from a variety of different sources, economists estimate that this candidate can secure about 80% of the funding his proposal requires.

Downside:

This guy is heavily pro-life. He is a vocal critic of Planned Parenthood, wants to defund it completely, believes that life begins at conception, and is willing to appoint conservative judges to the Supreme Court to oppose any pro-choice cases that makes it to their desks.



Candidate 2)

The second person into the race, this candidate's campaign theme is education reform, which ranges from overhauling programs like No Child Left Behind and Common Core and freeing up loads of funding for public schools. This candidate also has about 80% of his proposal funded, many experts believe his policies will improve the system drastically, and he also has proposals regarding student loan debt in colleges that many people praise.

Downside:

The means he wants to use to pay for these programs comes almost entirely from increased taxation on the poor, such as switching to taxation based on a flat income system and jacking up the sales tax rather than raising taxes on the rich. He wouldnt give tax cuts to the rich, but his plan overwhelmingly favors raising taxes on the poor rather than the rich for some reason, and the candidate is adamant about keeping it that way



Candidate 3)

This candidate is believed to have the best chance to win a general election contest, who has the most experience in high levels of government and is also the only candidate who has held cabinet positions under multiple presidents. This candidates main theme is foreign policy and improving the US's image through diplomacy rather than use of force, and the international community is rooting for this person to win the nomination out of all the other candidates. This person is very reserved about getting the US into wars without an exit strategy, and is open to canceling unneeded weapons programs to decrease spending

Downside:

This candidate would repeal Obamacare on day 1 due to a borderline-irrational objection to the mandate requiring people to have health insurance. Rather than get rid of just the mandate, this candidate wants to scrap the entire system, and has failed to provide an alternate healthcare system to implement in its place despite wanting to kill Obamacare.



Candidate 4)

This candidate was just barely passed over for VP by the previous president who has extensive service in intelligence departments like the CIA, the FBI, the Army, and even Special Forces. He is campaigning on overhauling intelligence gathering to make America much safer from terrorist attacks at home and abroad, and the proposals he has set forth to do this look like they would succeed in thwarting terrorists, though not with 100% efficiency. He also is very respectful of civil rights, and has ideas to scale down, but not end, mass collection of emails, texts, etc.

Downside:

This guy is incredibly racist, who has said several disparaging things about blacks, hispanics, women, the president himself, and even white people. He only offers half hearted apologies every time he says something that outrages people, which many people dont buy as sincere due to how frequently he steps out of line time and time again. Many believe if he won the nomination that the minority vote would switch to the GOP in the general election and is decimating the idea of the Democratic party being the 'Big Tent' party open to everyone.



Candidate 5)

This candidate was a former Republican who turned Democrat who is campaigning on what he believes is sensible gun control, benchmarked (teehee) by increased background checks and providing more funding to the ATF (Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms) to enforce gun regulations better. He is opposed to assault-style weapons bans but believes actual assault rifles and machine guns should be banned, is open to the idea of universal conceal carry laws, and many believe that he is the best chance the US will have for passing gun control legislation for the next 40 or 50 years.

Downside:

This person has a very irrational hatred for unions, believing that they are a burden to economic growth whose existence is no longer needed and should all be abolished. Many unions rail against this candidate for being so anti-union, where he has compared unions to being worse than Isis and Al Qaeda, but the candidate has an unbreakable will to dissolve unions if elected president, more so than passing gun control legislation according to some people.



Candidate 6)

An openly gay candidate running for president, she is also a minority whose platform centers around fighting poverty and helping out those who have the least in life. She was a former cabinet member of Urban Development, where she made great strides in fighting poverty in inner-cities in the limited time she had, and many see her as an outstanding Vice Presidential candidate for whoever else wins the nomination if it doesnt turn out to be her. She is also for raising the minimum wage to $13 an hour over time, and also reforming welfare to root out those who only choose not to work to collect benefits.

Downside:

She is very pro-military and pro-intervention of other countries for even the most minor offenses of human rights. She has gone on record many times listing over a dozen countries she believes the US should intervene in militaristically, including Iraq, each time for humanitarian causes but with no proposed exit strategy for each case. She wants to jack up military spending more than most of the GOP candidates running on the other side, and has no means at all for paying for the increased funding of the military and domestic programs she is campaigning on. She is considered the most dangerous candidate in terms of overall spending and plunging the nation deeper into debt.



Candidate 7)

An Iraq War vet who is the youngest in the race, this person is the true 'outsider' in the field who has never held political office and rails against the corruption of other politicians. He is leading a grassroots movement against Wall Street and millionaire donors, making him the poster-child for both campaign finance reform and stamping out corruption in the government in order to restore its integrity. Nobody questions his devotion and no other candidate can match this person's will and ferocity to bring about the reforms he wants to install.

Downside:

This person hates the GOP more than any other candidate, and many doubt that the GOP will be willing to work with him to pass his reforms just because of the comments he has slung at their party. He has accused the GOP of being terrorists, zealots, murderers, and the swine of the Earth, even attacking moderate GOP politicians who Democrats have a good amount of respect towards just for being Republicans. He frequently uses

So basically you as a politician ^
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1/26/2016 5:47:14 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:01:04 PM, imabench wrote:
Candidate 6)

An openly gay candidate running for president, she is also a minority whose platform centers around fighting poverty and helping out those who have the least in life. She was a former cabinet member of Urban Development, where she made great strides in fighting poverty in inner-cities in the limited time she had, and many see her as an outstanding Vice Presidential candidate for whoever else wins the nomination if it doesnt turn out to be her. She is also for raising the minimum wage to $13 an hour over time, and also reforming welfare to root out those who only choose not to work to collect benefits.

Downside:

She is very pro-military and pro-intervention of other countries for even the most minor offenses of human rights. She has gone on record many times listing over a dozen countries she believes the US should intervene in militaristically, including Iraq, each time for humanitarian causes but with no proposed exit strategy for each case. She wants to jack up military spending more than most of the GOP candidates running on the other side, and has no means at all for paying for the increased funding of the military and domestic programs she is campaigning on. She is considered the most dangerous candidate in terms of overall spending and plunging the nation deeper into debt.

GODDAMNIT
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And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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1/26/2016 5:50:19 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Either 2 or 7.
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And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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1/26/2016 6:00:20 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 5:38:24 PM, Objectivity wrote:

Candidate 7)

An Iraq War vet who is the youngest in the race, this person is the true 'outsider' in the field who has never held political office and rails against the corruption of other politicians. He is leading a grassroots movement against Wall Street and millionaire donors, making him the poster-child for both campaign finance reform and stamping out corruption in the government in order to restore its integrity. Nobody questions his devotion and no other candidate can match this person's will and ferocity to bring about the reforms he wants to install.

Downside:

This person hates the GOP more than any other candidate, and many doubt that the GOP will be willing to work with him to pass his reforms just because of the comments he has slung at their party. He has accused the GOP of being terrorists, zealots, murderers, and the swine of the Earth, even attacking moderate GOP politicians who Democrats have a good amount of respect towards just for being Republicans. He frequently uses

So basically you as a politician ^

I dont believe that the GOP is anywhere near as bad as ISIS or are the swine of the Earth. You may feel that way about democrats but thats your problem, not mine
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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VP of DDO from Dec 14th 2014 to Jan 1st 2015
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1/26/2016 6:02:17 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 5:47:14 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:01:04 PM, imabench wrote:
Candidate 6)

An openly gay candidate running for president, she is also a minority whose platform centers around fighting poverty and helping out those who have the least in life. She was a former cabinet member of Urban Development, where she made great strides in fighting poverty in inner-cities in the limited time she had, and many see her as an outstanding Vice Presidential candidate for whoever else wins the nomination if it doesnt turn out to be her. She is also for raising the minimum wage to $13 an hour over time, and also reforming welfare to root out those who only choose not to work to collect benefits.

Downside:

She is very pro-military and pro-intervention of other countries for even the most minor offenses of human rights. She has gone on record many times listing over a dozen countries she believes the US should intervene in militaristically, including Iraq, each time for humanitarian causes but with no proposed exit strategy for each case. She wants to jack up military spending more than most of the GOP candidates running on the other side, and has no means at all for paying for the increased funding of the military and domestic programs she is campaigning on. She is considered the most dangerous candidate in terms of overall spending and plunging the nation deeper into debt.

GODDAMNIT

I figured #6 would piss someone off XD
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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1/26/2016 6:15:23 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 5:32:57 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2016 5:22:23 PM, Peepette wrote:
These are real head scratchers, a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
My deal breakers:

#1 Can't send women back into the dark ages

#2 A flat tax is a ridiculous premise

#4 Racism hurts the country on many levels.

#6 Military interventions on this proposed scale will not fly with the public once the death toll of young people start to pile up, as well as the financial costs.

#7 A gridlocked government is an accomplish nothing government. Did I hear someone say Cruz?

Sounds like youre torn between the Union hater and the Obamacare hater

It's all a matter of lesser evils, same as the candidates in this election cycle.
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1/26/2016 6:18:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 6:15:23 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 1/26/2016 5:32:57 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2016 5:22:23 PM, Peepette wrote:
These are real head scratchers, a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
My deal breakers:

#1 Can't send women back into the dark ages

#2 A flat tax is a ridiculous premise

#4 Racism hurts the country on many levels.

#6 Military interventions on this proposed scale will not fly with the public once the death toll of young people start to pile up, as well as the financial costs.

#7 A gridlocked government is an accomplish nothing government. Did I hear someone say Cruz?

Sounds like youre torn between the Union hater and the Obamacare hater

It's all a matter of lesser evils

Yeah im a bastard like that ;D
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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1/26/2016 6:21:14 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Candidate 1) Since he will only get 80% of the funding he needs, I doubt he'd be able to succeed in his plan for the economy. He's strongly pro-life, and that's great, but a complete defunding of Planned Parenthood isn't going to solve anything.
Candidate 2) Education reform is a good idea, but the lower, middle, and upper classes are taxed enough already, if not too much.
Candidate 3) If he's going to get rid of Obamacare, he has too replace it with something. I also doubt whether diplomacy is going to help anyone.
Candidate 4) I would trust someone with experience in the CIA to protect us from terrorists. He's probably not actually racist if he says racist things about his own race, so that's only a minor downside.
Candidate 5) His gun control ideas are sensible, but he shouldn't compare unions to terrorist groups. As long as sensible gun regulations are his top priority, his views on unions are a minor downside.
Candidate 6) Welfare reform is a good idea, but raising the minimum wage will result in more unemployment and more spending on welfare. Combine that with excessive military spending and you've just ruined the economy.
Candidate 7) Government corruption needs to be stamped out, but if he hates the GOP so much they won't be willing to work with him and he won't get much accomplished.
I can easily eliminate candidate 6, who is probably the worst. 1, 2, 3, and 7 are also pretty bad. I'd go with candidate 4.
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