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1/27/2016 2:40:54 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
http://www.nytimes.com...

To sum it up the planned parenthood trolls are getting charged with a felony and misdemeanor for their deceitful ways.

How much money has and will continue to be spent by Republican Governors "investigating" this sham by the religious right?
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1/27/2016 2:47:05 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 2:40:54 AM, slo1 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com...

To sum it up the planned parenthood trolls are getting charged with a felony and misdemeanor for their deceitful ways.

How much money has and will continue to be spent by Republican Governors "investigating" this sham by the religious right?

YEa, I posted this. Very happy day. Hope they get the book thrown at them.
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1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.
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1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.
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1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"
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1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.
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1/27/2016 3:58:16 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.

Just watch those parts of the video. She admits to committing crimes.
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1/27/2016 4:16:36 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 3:58:16 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.

Just watch those parts of the video. She admits to committing crimes.

You're basing that conclusion on the videos....
The videos that were doctored by scam artists.....
The videos that were made scam artists who admitted to doctoring the videos.....
The videos made by scam artists who just got indicted by federal court for doctoring videos....
The videos made by scam artists who admitted to doctoring videos, and got indicted in federal court in an attempt to defame the people shown within them.....

Thats really what youre basing your conclusion on.....
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1/27/2016 4:20:17 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 4:16:36 AM, imabench wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:58:16 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.

Just watch those parts of the video. She admits to committing crimes.

You're basing that conclusion on the videos....
The videos that were doctored by scam artists.....
The videos that were made scam artists who admitted to doctoring the videos.....
The videos made by scam artists who just got indicted by federal court for doctoring videos....
The videos made by scam artists who admitted to doctoring videos, and got indicted in federal court in an attempt to defame the people shown within them.....

Thats really what youre basing your conclusion on.....

Just watch the video at 3:45 and 5:10. https://www.youtube.com... Here are her quotes. . "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"
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1/27/2016 5:28:36 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 3:58:16 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.

Just watch those parts of the video. She admits to committing crimes.

What crimes do you THINK she committed? Come on. Give it to me.
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1/27/2016 5:30:10 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 4:16:36 AM, imabench wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:58:16 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.

Just watch those parts of the video. She admits to committing crimes.

You're basing that conclusion on the videos....
The videos that were doctored by scam artists.....
The videos that were made scam artists who admitted to doctoring the videos.....
The videos made by scam artists who just got indicted by federal court for doctoring videos....
The videos made by scam artists who admitted to doctoring videos, and got indicted in federal court in an attempt to defame the people shown within them.....

Thats really what youre basing your conclusion on.....

Bench. Its Dilara were talking about here.
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1/27/2016 6:35:22 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.

come on just because someone is cleared of charges doesn't mean they aren't guilty or has not committed a crime, clearly if this person made that statement they have committed a crime but knows how to get away with it, the law obviously requires intent and that statement clearly shows the person making it knows this fact and if you do something in a such a way that intent can't be proven you can't be charged.
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1/27/2016 6:37:41 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 6:35:22 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.

come on just because someone is cleared of charges doesn't mean they aren't guilty or has not committed a crime, clearly if this person made that statement they have committed a crime but knows how to get away with it, the law obviously requires intent and that statement clearly shows the person making it knows this fact and if you do something in a such a way that intent can't be proven you can't be charged.

This has been discussed to death. No crime occurred. That is, no crime on the part of the doctor in question.
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1/27/2016 6:45:20 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 6:37:41 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 6:35:22 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:57:08 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:55:51 AM, Dilara wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:54:16 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 3:33:19 AM, Dilara wrote:
What about Deborah Nucatola? She admitted to doing partial birth abortion and changing abortion procedures to get intact babies.

She has been cleared in this witchhunt.

So, there you go Dilara.

https://www.youtube.com...
3:45 Nucatola admits to changing the procedure to get intact specimens. "I"m going to crush below and then crush above"
5:10. Nucatola admits to doing partial birth abortion. "So the federal abortion ban is a law and laws are up to interpretation so if I say on day one I do not intend to do this ultimately happens doesn"t matter"

Yea, you asked. She is clear of all charges. She did nor said anything illegal. The guys that taped her, THEY are the ones in a heap of legal trouble.

come on just because someone is cleared of charges doesn't mean they aren't guilty or has not committed a crime, clearly if this person made that statement they have committed a crime but knows how to get away with it, the law obviously requires intent and that statement clearly shows the person making it knows this fact and if you do something in a such a way that intent can't be proven you can't be charged.

This has been discussed to death. No crime occurred. That is, no crime on the part of the doctor in question.

I know I'm just playing devil's advocate
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1/27/2016 6:53:32 PM
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This has been discussed to death. No crime occurred. That is, no crime on the part of the doctor in question.

I know I'm just playing devil's advocate

If you want to take it in a new direction, I would discuss. Like the topic, why the deceptive and manipulative jerk deserve whatever they get. I would talk to that.
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1/27/2016 6:56:38 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I know I'm just playing devil's advocate

What pisses me off over and over again is, this crap never changes the debate, the demand for abortion, or improve the situation for the women that need services.

Messing with PP funding does absolutly NOTHING to effect their abortion services - it is the only place they make any money. So.... Good work pro-life. At every turn you make things worse for everyone.
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1/27/2016 7:04:05 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 2:40:54 AM, slo1 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com...

To sum it up the planned parenthood trolls are getting charged with a felony and misdemeanor for their deceitful ways.

How much money has and will continue to be spent by Republican Governors "investigating" this sham by the religious right?

Honestly to me this seems like some crafty lawyer work.
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1/27/2016 7:09:03 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 2:47:05 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 2:40:54 AM, slo1 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com...

To sum it up the planned parenthood trolls are getting charged with a felony and misdemeanor for their deceitful ways.

How much money has and will continue to be spent by Republican Governors "investigating" this sham by the religious right?

YEa, I posted this. Very happy day. Hope they get the book thrown at them.

I can't wait for this to go to court.
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1/27/2016 7:14:16 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 7:09:03 PM, liltankjj wrote:
At 1/27/2016 2:47:05 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 2:40:54 AM, slo1 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com...

To sum it up the planned parenthood trolls are getting charged with a felony and misdemeanor for their deceitful ways.

How much money has and will continue to be spent by Republican Governors "investigating" this sham by the religious right?

YEa, I posted this. Very happy day. Hope they get the book thrown at them.

I can't wait for this to go to court.

These guys caused a lot of damage with their bullsh1t, and accomplished nothing.
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1/27/2016 7:15:18 PM
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At 1/27/2016 6:56:38 PM, TBR wrote:
I know I'm just playing devil's advocate

What pisses me off over and over again is, this crap never changes the debate, the demand for abortion, or improve the situation for the women that need services.

Messing with PP funding does absolutly NOTHING to effect their abortion services - it is the only place they make any money. So.... Good work pro-life. At every turn you make things worse for everyone.

I support the idea of un-funding PP, or at least, coming up with something different. I'm not trying to say as though I understand if any other woman health centers receive government funding, but I know I don't like the idea that I am giving money to PP when they are doing as the videos display. My money is like my vote.
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1/27/2016 7:16:41 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 7:14:16 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 7:09:03 PM, liltankjj wrote:
At 1/27/2016 2:47:05 AM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 2:40:54 AM, slo1 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com...

To sum it up the planned parenthood trolls are getting charged with a felony and misdemeanor for their deceitful ways.

How much money has and will continue to be spent by Republican Governors "investigating" this sham by the religious right?

YEa, I posted this. Very happy day. Hope they get the book thrown at them.

I can't wait for this to go to court.

These guys caused a lot of damage with their bullsh1t, and accomplished nothing.

They showed me what was going on in PP. Not to say all women health systems are the same but the stuff I've reviewed is disturbing to say the least.
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1/27/2016 7:24:21 PM
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At 1/27/2016 7:15:18 PM, liltankjj wrote:
At 1/27/2016 6:56:38 PM, TBR wrote:
I know I'm just playing devil's advocate

What pisses me off over and over again is, this crap never changes the debate, the demand for abortion, or improve the situation for the women that need services.

Messing with PP funding does absolutly NOTHING to effect their abortion services - it is the only place they make any money. So.... Good work pro-life. At every turn you make things worse for everyone.

I support the idea of un-funding PP, or at least, coming up with something different. I'm not trying to say as though I understand if any other woman health centers receive government funding, but I know I don't like the idea that I am giving money to PP when they are doing as the videos display. My money is like my vote.

The damage these yahoos did is exactly this. You can't put your finger on what exactly they did wrong, you must have known they preform abortions, right?

It was a hit job that has a negative effect on women health and does absolutly nothing (really) to effect abortions preformed.
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1/27/2016 7:26:10 PM
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They showed me what was going on in PP. Not to say all women health systems are the same but the stuff I've reviewed is disturbing to say the least.

What? Really what did you think was happening? Yes, they preform abortions.
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1/27/2016 7:26:38 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 7:24:21 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 7:15:18 PM, liltankjj wrote:
At 1/27/2016 6:56:38 PM, TBR wrote:
I know I'm just playing devil's advocate

What pisses me off over and over again is, this crap never changes the debate, the demand for abortion, or improve the situation for the women that need services.

Messing with PP funding does absolutly NOTHING to effect their abortion services - it is the only place they make any money. So.... Good work pro-life. At every turn you make things worse for everyone.

I support the idea of un-funding PP, or at least, coming up with something different. I'm not trying to say as though I understand if any other woman health centers receive government funding, but I know I don't like the idea that I am giving money to PP when they are doing as the videos display. My money is like my vote.

The damage these yahoos did is exactly this. You can't put your finger on what exactly they did wrong, you must have known they preform abortions, right?

It was a hit job that has a negative effect on women health and does absolutly nothing (really) to effect abortions preformed.

Not sure about the negative effects on women health but their actions were very informative. Yes, I knew they did abortions.
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1/27/2016 7:28:53 PM
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Not sure about the negative effects on women health but their actions were very informative. Yes, I knew they did abortions.

Let me be clear. If any money is deprived from PP, it is NOT going to effect the number of abortions preformed. Just about the only place they MAKE any money is preforming abortions, so taking money away effects the other services.

Yea, any fallout will have a negative effect on other health services, NOT abortion.
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1/27/2016 7:30:26 PM
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At 1/27/2016 7:26:10 PM, TBR wrote:
They showed me what was going on in PP. Not to say all women health systems are the same but the stuff I've reviewed is disturbing to say the least.

What? Really what did you think was happening? Yes, they preform abortions.

The idea of selling body parts is what turns me off entirely. I don't care if a woman wants an abortion. I don't care if she takes the aborted baby and sales them her self. I do, however, care if I am supporting a group that is doing something I don't agree with.
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1/27/2016 7:31:13 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 7:30:26 PM, liltankjj wrote:
At 1/27/2016 7:26:10 PM, TBR wrote:
They showed me what was going on in PP. Not to say all women health systems are the same but the stuff I've reviewed is disturbing to say the least.

What? Really what did you think was happening? Yes, they preform abortions.

The idea of selling body parts is what turns me off entirely. I don't care if a woman wants an abortion. I don't care if she takes the aborted baby and sales them her self. I do, however, care if I am supporting a group that is doing something I don't agree with.

And it has been shown that they were NOT selling. Are you opposed to using the fetal tissue in any way?
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1/27/2016 7:32:12 PM
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At 1/27/2016 7:28:53 PM, TBR wrote:
Not sure about the negative effects on women health but their actions were very informative. Yes, I knew they did abortions.

Yea, any fallout will have a negative effect on other health services, NOT abortion.

Explain this on to me further please.
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1/27/2016 7:33:40 PM
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At 1/27/2016 7:31:13 PM, TBR wrote:
At 1/27/2016 7:30:26 PM, liltankjj wrote:
At 1/27/2016 7:26:10 PM, TBR wrote:
They showed me what was going on in PP. Not to say all women health systems are the same but the stuff I've reviewed is disturbing to say the least.

What? Really what did you think was happening? Yes, they preform abortions.

The idea of selling body parts is what turns me off entirely. I don't care if a woman wants an abortion. I don't care if she takes the aborted baby and sales them her self. I do, however, care if I am supporting a group that is doing something I don't agree with.

And it has been shown that they were NOT selling. Are you opposed to using the fetal tissue in any way?

Yes to an extent. I am not familiar with the idea that they weren't selling or attempting to sell baby parts.
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1/27/2016 7:35:54 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/27/2016 7:32:12 PM, liltankjj wrote:
At 1/27/2016 7:28:53 PM, TBR wrote:
Not sure about the negative effects on women health but their actions were very informative. Yes, I knew they did abortions.

Yea, any fallout will have a negative effect on other health services, NOT abortion.

Explain this on to me further please.

PP offers a slew of services at low cost, or no cost. This is where the "tax money" is going.

Some, not all, PP offer abortion services. They do not get tax dollars for abortion, in fact it is the only place that "makes" money. The abortion services help pay for OTHER activities of PP, including bringing down the cost to tax-payers for other services.

So. When you remove the tax money coming in, there is zero incentive to limit abortion services, there in an incentive to EXPAND them to make up the shortfall. Without other income, the non-abortion services will suffer, not the abortion services.