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2/12/2016 2:08:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Sanders should address that nothing Clinton has said in the opener has "gone beyond" what he said to open.
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2/12/2016 2:14:04 AM
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Clinton looks like a banana
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2/12/2016 2:16:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:14:04 AM, thett3 wrote:
Clinton looks like a banana

I feel like her polls dropped 1% just based off of that.
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2/12/2016 2:25:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

You have read more than a press release on Trump saying we should build a wall for these Primaries, no?

Btw, he gave his reasoning in the answer.
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2/12/2016 2:27:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:25:55 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

You have read more than a press release on Trump saying we should build a wall for these Primaries, no?

Btw, he gave his reasoning in the answer.

Free tuition=non serious students+ overcrowding.
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2/12/2016 2:28:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:27:09 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:25:55 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

You have read more than a press release on Trump saying we should build a wall for these Primaries, no?

Btw, he gave his reasoning in the answer.

Free tuition=non serious students+ overcrowding.

Free tuition would imply that more money would go into the colleges, and therefore they would be able to accommodate more students.
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2/12/2016 2:29:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

if you think thats hysterical wait til you hear how he wants to pay for it

(he doesnt)
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2/12/2016 2:30:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:28:46 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:27:09 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:25:55 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

You have read more than a press release on Trump saying we should build a wall for these Primaries, no?

Btw, he gave his reasoning in the answer.

Free tuition=non serious students+ overcrowding.

Free tuition would imply that more money would go into the colleges, and therefore they would be able to accommodate more students.

That's true, but you still get students who aren't serious.
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2/12/2016 2:31:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:30:20 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:28:46 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:27:09 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:25:55 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

You have read more than a press release on Trump saying we should build a wall for these Primaries, no?

Btw, he gave his reasoning in the answer.

Free tuition=non serious students+ overcrowding.

Free tuition would imply that more money would go into the colleges, and therefore they would be able to accommodate more students.

That's true, but you still get students who aren't serious.

The point isn't to make students more serious. The point is to make it easier for young people to enter job markets.
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2/12/2016 2:34:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:31:47 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:30:20 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:28:46 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:27:09 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:25:55 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

You have read more than a press release on Trump saying we should build a wall for these Primaries, no?

Btw, he gave his reasoning in the answer.

Free tuition=non serious students+ overcrowding.

Free tuition would imply that more money would go into the colleges, and therefore they would be able to accommodate more students.

That's true, but you still get students who aren't serious.

The point isn't to make students more serious. The point is to make it easier for young people to enter job markets.

That's not the point I'm making.

If students will be able to go to college for free, they all will want to go, because they wont have to pay, so you will get various types of students, including ones who are just going because its free (probably because their parents are obligating them to go)
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2/12/2016 2:36:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I honestly dislike Clinton, even though I'm a feminist. She is making herself look like a douche. It's like "I'm a Women, and therfor, you should vote for me!! YES WOMEN RIGHTS EVREYBODY!" there are more important issues to worry about than electing the 1st Women president.
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2/12/2016 2:39:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:34:16 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:31:47 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:30:20 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:28:46 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:27:09 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:25:55 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

You have read more than a press release on Trump saying we should build a wall for these Primaries, no?

Btw, he gave his reasoning in the answer.

Free tuition=non serious students+ overcrowding.

Free tuition would imply that more money would go into the colleges, and therefore they would be able to accommodate more students.

That's true, but you still get students who aren't serious.

The point isn't to make students more serious. The point is to make it easier for young people to enter job markets.

That's not the point I'm making.

If students will be able to go to college for free, they all will want to go, because they wont have to pay, so you will get various types of students, including ones who are just going because its free (probably because their parents are obligating them to go)

And? Does that mean we should make it harder to attend public schooling, whereas making it easier would give millions of people the chance to have the minimal education to succeed? This is a matter of positives and negatives where the positives are much greater, not throw it away because there's a stoner in the back of the classroom not paying attention.
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2/12/2016 2:44:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Holy sh1t, they just asked the best question in any debate from either party
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2/12/2016 2:47:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:44:23 AM, thett3 wrote:
Holy sh1t, they just asked the best question in any debate from either party

I was very refreshed by a new topic, as well as some of the things said in response.
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2/12/2016 2:47:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:39:00 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:34:16 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:31:47 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:30:20 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:28:46 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:27:09 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:25:55 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:23:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
Why the fvck does Sanders believe in a free tuition..

You have read more than a press release on Trump saying we should build a wall for these Primaries, no?

Btw, he gave his reasoning in the answer.

Free tuition=non serious students+ overcrowding.

Free tuition would imply that more money would go into the colleges, and therefore they would be able to accommodate more students.

That's true, but you still get students who aren't serious.

The point isn't to make students more serious. The point is to make it easier for young people to enter job markets.

That's not the point I'm making.

If students will be able to go to college for free, they all will want to go, because they wont have to pay, so you will get various types of students, including ones who are just going because its free (probably because their parents are obligating them to go)

And? Does that mean we should make it harder to attend public schooling, whereas making it easier would give millions of people the chance to have the minimal education to succeed? This is a matter of positives and negatives where the positives are much greater, not throw it away because there's a stoner in the back of the classroom not paying attention.

You're not getting what I'm saying.

Those who can afford college, let them pay.

We have fee-waivers, we have Pell-grants that almost *any* student can obtain *if* they actually put the effort into filling out the paper work.

Making tuition free, would also increase our taxes. All of this free tuition money has to come from somewhere.
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2/12/2016 2:49:28 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:39:00 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:

And? Does that mean we should make it harder to attend public schooling, whereas making it easier would give millions of people the chance to have the minimal education to succeed?

You dont need a college education to succeed at life or to even get a job depending on the field. Cop, fireman, truck driver, farmer, cab driver, construction worker, bodyguard to name a few. They arent glamorous jobs sure, but you dont need a college education for any of them either, and there are millions of all of those things in this country.

This is a matter of positives and negatives where the positives are much greater, not throw it away because there's a stoner in the back of the classroom not paying attention.

Rosalie's argument is dumb as hell, but what about Sanders's complete inability to actually fund free college education, let alone the odds of even enacting it into legislation in the first place should he get elected?
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2/12/2016 2:49:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/12/2016 2:47:38 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:39:00 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:34:16 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:31:47 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/12/2016 2:30:20 AM, Rosalie wrote:
That's true, but you still get students who aren't serious.

The point isn't to make students more serious. The point is to make it easier for young people to enter job markets.

That's not the point I'm making.

If students will be able to go to college for free, they all will want to go, because they wont have to pay, so you will get various types of students, including ones who are just going because its free (probably because their parents are obligating them to go)

And? Does that mean we should make it harder to attend public schooling, whereas making it easier would give millions of people the chance to have the minimal education to succeed? This is a matter of positives and negatives where the positives are much greater, not throw it away because there's a stoner in the back of the classroom not paying attention.

You're not getting what I'm saying.

Those who can afford college, let them pay.

We have fee-waivers, we have Pell-grants that almost *any* student can obtain *if* they actually put the effort into filling out the paper work.

Making tuition free, would also increase our taxes. All of this free tuition money has to come from somewhere.

Of course it has to come from somewhere, but the budget isn't managed just by adding taxes. It's managed by cutting where we don't need spending, and moving money to where it's really needed - like education.
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