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FREEDO
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11/3/2010 3:15:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
This is a thread for the members of the AuthoParty to lay out their platform and for question to be asked concerning it. Please refrain from derailing this thread in any way.
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Mirza
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11/3/2010 3:34:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:32:07 PM, FREEDO wrote:
How do you plan on taking control of all of us?
It is not about "control." It is about making everyone feel comfortable here by taking quick action on abusive members, and also vote-bombing. All of that will be dealt with quickly. Promoting good conduct is also part of the plan.
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11/3/2010 3:41:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:39:27 PM, Mirza wrote:
Something like this would indeed be rare: http://www.debate.org...

(The rhetoric)

You would move to correct his behavior?
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11/3/2010 3:45:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:41:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 11/3/2010 3:39:27 PM, Mirza wrote:
Something like this would indeed be rare: http://www.debate.org...

(The rhetoric)

You would move to correct his behavior?
Yes. Curses etc. would be removed instantly. Either the post would be edited, or it would be removed. This way, people would be free but also more comfortable in being here. Many members have left the site or are using it less than before due to bad behaviors of other members.
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11/3/2010 3:46:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
In point of fact people would be more free because they would eventually "feel" free to be here and enjoy it, instead of being ridiculed and then sort of pressured to leave.
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11/3/2010 3:47:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:45:09 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/3/2010 3:41:31 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 11/3/2010 3:39:27 PM, Mirza wrote:
Something like this would indeed be rare: http://www.debate.org...

(The rhetoric)

You would move to correct his behavior?
Yes. Curses etc. would be removed instantly. Either the post would be edited, or it would be removed. This way, people would be free but also more comfortable in being here. Many members have left the site or are using it less than before due to bad behaviors of other members.

You believe that people will be more comfortable when having an eye always looking down on them to correct anything that is seen as inappropriate?
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11/3/2010 3:50:21 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:46:02 PM, Mirza wrote:
In point of fact people would be more free because they would eventually "feel" free to be here and enjoy it, instead of being ridiculed and then sort of pressured to leave.

Most people are not as negative as Panda and having someone like him really isn't as bad as it sounds. He's a valued member who brings his type of service to the site. More would be unbearable but everybody needs a Panda.
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11/3/2010 3:50:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:47:35 PM, FREEDO wrote:
You believe that people will be more comfortable when having an eye always looking down on them to correct anything that is seen as inappropriate?
That is not how it will be. Those who insult etc. already dare to violate the ToS and insult another member to make him/her feel bad, so why would these people fear having their posts deleted? If they follow the rules, they have nothing to fear. In fact, people will not be paranoid about it because everything will be dealt with in a positive manner.
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11/3/2010 3:51:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:50:21 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Most people are not as negative as Panda and having someone like him really isn't as bad as it sounds. He's a valued member who brings his type of service to the site. More would be unbearable but everybody needs a Panda.
No particular member will be looked down upon, but any bad language will not be tolerated (as the ToS already says, so there are no surprises).
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11/3/2010 3:52:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:50:24 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/3/2010 3:47:35 PM, FREEDO wrote:
You believe that people will be more comfortable when having an eye always looking down on them to correct anything that is seen as inappropriate?
That is not how it will be. Those who insult etc. already dare to violate the ToS and insult another member to make him/her feel bad, so why would these people fear having their posts deleted? If they follow the rules, they have nothing to fear. In fact, people will not be paranoid about it because everything will be dealt with in a positive manner.

But that positive matter is all decided by one idealogical group(authoritarians), is it not? The Party Party has people from every edge of the political spectrum to try and reverse or prevent problems. How would you remain fair?
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11/3/2010 3:54:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/3/2010 3:52:32 PM, FREEDO wrote:
But that positive matter is all decided by one idealogical group(authoritarians), is it not? The Party Party has people from every edge of the political spectrum to try and reverse or prevent problems. How would you remain fair?
Whether you are authoritarian or libertarian, it does not matter. Cooperativeness will be very promoted daily or weekly in one way or another, and every member would be free to suggest something, such as new rules or anything of that sort.
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11/5/2010 11:22:05 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
How would the Authoparty help make this site more "new-member" friendly?
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11/5/2010 11:23:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:22:05 AM, OreEle wrote:
How would the Authoparty help make this site more "new-member" friendly?

I'm guessing it would prevent attacks against new members. Those seem to occur quite often. I'll let Mirza tell you though since it's his party.
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11/5/2010 11:26:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:22:05 AM, OreEle wrote:
How would the Authoparty help make this site more "new-member" friendly?
Any questions that he might have would be answered quickly. We would not allow people to harass a new member so that he/she might leave. Also, some things will be done which will make it easier for new members to adapt to the "DDO environment."
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11/5/2010 11:35:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:26:30 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 11:22:05 AM, OreEle wrote:
How would the Authoparty help make this site more "new-member" friendly?
Any questions that he might have would be answered quickly. We would not allow people to harass a new member so that he/she might leave. Also, some things will be done which will make it easier for new members to adapt to the "DDO environment."

I don't intend to put any ideas into people's heads, but is there any discussion about adding an "intro" forum, beyond just the misc. forum and debate.org forum?
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11/5/2010 11:43:06 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:35:43 AM, OreEle wrote:
I don't intend to put any ideas into people's heads, but is there any discussion about adding an "intro" forum, beyond just the misc. forum and debate.org forum?
If there is acceptance of it among the members, then yes. Lots of things will be tested where we will ask for feedback among members. The party is authoritarian, yes, but it is nothing about "strict control." It is about handling the site well and making everyone feel comfortable here.
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11/5/2010 11:52:31 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:26:30 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 11:22:05 AM, OreEle wrote:
How would the Authoparty help make this site more "new-member" friendly?
Any questions that he might have would be answered quickly. We would not allow people to harass a new member so that he/she might leave. Also, some things will be done which will make it easier for new members to adapt to the "DDO environment."

Define "harassment".
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11/5/2010 11:55:06 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:52:31 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 11/5/2010 11:26:30 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 11:22:05 AM, OreEle wrote:
How would the Authoparty help make this site more "new-member" friendly?
Any questions that he might have would be answered quickly. We would not allow people to harass a new member so that he/she might leave. Also, some things will be done which will make it easier for new members to adapt to the "DDO environment."

Define "harassment".
Such as a particular member always insulting another specific member, where it is clear that the victim is feeling bad, and that can be found out by asking him/her or if he/she reports the harassment.
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11/5/2010 12:14:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:55:06 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 11:52:31 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 11/5/2010 11:26:30 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 11:22:05 AM, OreEle wrote:
How would the Authoparty help make this site more "new-member" friendly?
Any questions that he might have would be answered quickly. We would not allow people to harass a new member so that he/she might leave. Also, some things will be done which will make it easier for new members to adapt to the "DDO environment."

Define "harassment".
Such as a particular member always insulting another specific member, where it is clear that the victim is feeling bad, and that can be found out by asking him/her or if he/she reports the harassment.

And every instance of a person "getting his/her feelings hurt" is always that clear-cut?
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11/5/2010 12:17:19 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:14:26 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
And every instance of a person "getting his/her feelings hurt" is always that clear-cut?
This is a debate site, and some things will hurt people, such as political disagreement. This is the nature of the site and nothing will be done about that. However, telling a person to kill himself is absolutely unrelated to debate or any good discussion, and if that is meant in a serious and offensive way, then it will be dealt with.
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11/5/2010 12:46:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:17:19 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 12:14:26 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
And every instance of a person "getting his/her feelings hurt" is always that clear-cut?
This is a debate site, and some things will hurt people, such as political disagreement. This is the nature of the site and nothing will be done about that. However, telling a person to kill himself is absolutely unrelated to debate or any good discussion, and if that is meant in a serious and offensive way, then it will be dealt with.

Didn't really answer my question.
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11/5/2010 12:47:27 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:00:57 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
I leave this party.

Interesting. Why is that? And to where shall you go?
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11/5/2010 12:47:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:00:57 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
I leave this party.

Why? You like insulting people? I actually like this party's policies towards these things, but I'm already with The Party Party.
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11/5/2010 12:48:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Cody,

Do you believe that the Authoparty will impliment control and authority beyond the limits of the ToS?
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11/5/2010 12:50:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:46:23 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 11/5/2010 12:17:19 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 12:14:26 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
And every instance of a person "getting his/her feelings hurt" is always that clear-cut?
This is a debate site, and some things will hurt people, such as political disagreement. This is the nature of the site and nothing will be done about that. However, telling a person to kill himself is absolutely unrelated to debate or any good discussion, and if that is meant in a serious and offensive way, then it will be dealt with.

Didn't really answer my question.
Yes it did.

And I am happily going to say that this party is not even 1% more authoritative than Freedom Party. It is really rubbish that you call it Freedom Party.