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2/14/2016 6:45:25 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
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2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

1) The endorsement was by one person in an opinion piece that was an editorial, it doesnt equal the entire newspaper itself endorses Clinton, and that politifact must therefore be biased

2) Their files are almost exactly the same in terms of truth rankings

http://www.politifact.com...
http://www.politifact.com...

Bernie has 69% of his quotes ranked as half true, mostly true, or true.
Hillary has 71% in the same combined categories

3) The newspaper owns politifact, but that doesnt mean they have control over it

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...
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2/14/2016 6:53:13 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

1) The endorsement was by one person in an opinion piece that was an editorial, it doesnt equal the entire newspaper itself endorses Clinton, and that politifact must therefore be biased

2) Their files are almost exactly the same in terms of truth rankings

http://www.politifact.com...
http://www.politifact.com...

Bernie has 69% of his quotes ranked as half true, mostly true, or true.
Hillary has 71% in the same combined categories

3) The newspaper owns politifact, but that doesnt mean they have control over it

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

Saudi Arabia doesn't care what white rednecks think about Muslims.

Fox is incredibly biased; biased for the interests of its No. 1 owners: the Republican Establishment.

Done, son.
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2/14/2016 6:58:24 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:53:13 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

1) The endorsement was by one person in an opinion piece that was an editorial, it doesnt equal the entire newspaper itself endorses Clinton, and that politifact must therefore be biased

2) Their files are almost exactly the same in terms of truth rankings

http://www.politifact.com...
http://www.politifact.com...

Bernie has 69% of his quotes ranked as half true, mostly true, or true.
Hillary has 71% in the same combined categories

3) The newspaper owns politifact, but that doesnt mean they have control over it

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

Saudi Arabia doesn't care what white rednecks think about Muslims.

Fox is incredibly biased; biased for the interests of its No. 1 owners: the Republican Establishment.

Done, son.

youre blazed arent you?
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7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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2/14/2016 7:00:51 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:58:24 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:53:13 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

1) The endorsement was by one person in an opinion piece that was an editorial, it doesnt equal the entire newspaper itself endorses Clinton, and that politifact must therefore be biased

2) Their files are almost exactly the same in terms of truth rankings

http://www.politifact.com...
http://www.politifact.com...

Bernie has 69% of his quotes ranked as half true, mostly true, or true.
Hillary has 71% in the same combined categories

3) The newspaper owns politifact, but that doesnt mean they have control over it

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

Saudi Arabia doesn't care what white rednecks think about Muslims.

Fox is incredibly biased; biased for the interests of its No. 1 owners: the Republican Establishment.

Done, son.

youre blazed arent you?

Even when stoned, I can still win every thread I post lol

but I'm not stoned

Politifact is less biased than other sources, but it's still highly biased... and in some cases, flatly wrong.
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2/14/2016 7:11:37 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 7:00:51 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:58:24 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:53:13 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

1) The endorsement was by one person in an opinion piece that was an editorial, it doesnt equal the entire newspaper itself endorses Clinton, and that politifact must therefore be biased

2) Their files are almost exactly the same in terms of truth rankings

http://www.politifact.com...
http://www.politifact.com...

Bernie has 69% of his quotes ranked as half true, mostly true, or true.
Hillary has 71% in the same combined categories

3) The newspaper owns politifact, but that doesnt mean they have control over it

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

Saudi Arabia doesn't care what white rednecks think about Muslims.

Fox is incredibly biased; biased for the interests of its No. 1 owners: the Republican Establishment.

Done, son.

youre blazed arent you?

Even when stoned, I can still win every thread I post lol

but I'm not stoned

Politifact is less biased than other sources, but it's still highly biased... and in some cases, flatly wrong.

Towards democrats over republicans maybe, but #2 where both of their records are nearly the same indicates that they arent nearly as biased, if biased at all, when it comes to individual candidates
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7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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2/14/2016 7:12:26 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 7:11:37 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 7:00:51 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:58:24 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:53:13 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

1) The endorsement was by one person in an opinion piece that was an editorial, it doesnt equal the entire newspaper itself endorses Clinton, and that politifact must therefore be biased

2) Their files are almost exactly the same in terms of truth rankings

http://www.politifact.com...
http://www.politifact.com...

Bernie has 69% of his quotes ranked as half true, mostly true, or true.
Hillary has 71% in the same combined categories

3) The newspaper owns politifact, but that doesnt mean they have control over it

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

Saudi Arabia doesn't care what white rednecks think about Muslims.

Fox is incredibly biased; biased for the interests of its No. 1 owners: the Republican Establishment.

Done, son.

youre blazed arent you?

Even when stoned, I can still win every thread I post lol

but I'm not stoned

Politifact is less biased than other sources, but it's still highly biased... and in some cases, flatly wrong.

Towards democrats over republicans maybe, but #2 where both of their records are nearly the same indicates that they arent nearly as biased, if biased at all, when it comes to individual candidates

It's biased towards Democrats, and in support of Hillary.

What now, bitch?
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2/14/2016 7:14:14 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 7:12:26 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 7:11:37 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 7:00:51 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:58:24 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:53:13 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

1) The endorsement was by one person in an opinion piece that was an editorial, it doesnt equal the entire newspaper itself endorses Clinton, and that politifact must therefore be biased

2) Their files are almost exactly the same in terms of truth rankings

http://www.politifact.com...
http://www.politifact.com...

Bernie has 69% of his quotes ranked as half true, mostly true, or true.
Hillary has 71% in the same combined categories

3) The newspaper owns politifact, but that doesnt mean they have control over it

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

Saudi Arabia doesn't care what white rednecks think about Muslims.

Fox is incredibly biased; biased for the interests of its No. 1 owners: the Republican Establishment.

Done, son.

youre blazed arent you?

Even when stoned, I can still win every thread I post lol

but I'm not stoned

Politifact is less biased than other sources, but it's still highly biased... and in some cases, flatly wrong.

Towards democrats over republicans maybe, but #2 where both of their records are nearly the same indicates that they arent nearly as biased, if biased at all, when it comes to individual candidates

It's biased towards Democrats, and in support of Hillary.

What now, bitch?

Yeah you're either blazed, blitzed, plastered, hammered, or some other fifth past tense of a verb..... Take it easy tonight <3
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

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2/14/2016 7:14:52 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 7:14:14 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 7:12:26 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 7:11:37 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 7:00:51 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:58:24 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:53:13 AM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

1) The endorsement was by one person in an opinion piece that was an editorial, it doesnt equal the entire newspaper itself endorses Clinton, and that politifact must therefore be biased

2) Their files are almost exactly the same in terms of truth rankings

http://www.politifact.com...
http://www.politifact.com...

Bernie has 69% of his quotes ranked as half true, mostly true, or true.
Hillary has 71% in the same combined categories

3) The newspaper owns politifact, but that doesnt mean they have control over it

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

Saudi Arabia doesn't care what white rednecks think about Muslims.

Fox is incredibly biased; biased for the interests of its No. 1 owners: the Republican Establishment.

Done, son.

youre blazed arent you?

Even when stoned, I can still win every thread I post lol

but I'm not stoned

Politifact is less biased than other sources, but it's still highly biased... and in some cases, flatly wrong.

Towards democrats over republicans maybe, but #2 where both of their records are nearly the same indicates that they arent nearly as biased, if biased at all, when it comes to individual candidates

It's biased towards Democrats, and in support of Hillary.

What now, bitch?

Yeah you're either blazed, blitzed, plastered, hammered, or some other fifth past tense of a verb..... Take it easy tonight <3

https://www.youtube.com...
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2/14/2016 7:23:38 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

HAHA!

Now that I did not see coming.
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2/14/2016 7:29:59 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:51:41 AM, imabench wrote:

The number 2 owner of Fox News is technically a Saudi Arabian Prince. As you can tell from how Anti-Muslim Fox News is, simply being an owner of a piece of media doesnt mean it dictates whatever bias the owner has

http://www.snopes.com...

I retract my previous comment. I just read the article, and checked a few of their sources. The prince owns 6.6%.
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2/14/2016 8:15:09 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:45:25 AM, bsh1 wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

I was going to link that debate, but decided against it :p
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2/14/2016 8:15:56 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 8:15:09 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:45:25 AM, bsh1 wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

I was going to link that debate, but decided against it :p

Lol...why?
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2/14/2016 8:16:22 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 8:15:56 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:09 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:45:25 AM, bsh1 wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

I was going to link that debate, but decided against it :p

Lol...why?

Didn't feel like it
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2/14/2016 8:19:27 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 8:16:22 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:56 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:09 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:45:25 AM, bsh1 wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

I was going to link that debate, but decided against it :p

Lol...why?

Didn't feel like it

Ah.
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2/14/2016 6:21:57 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 8:16:22 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:56 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:09 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:45:25 AM, bsh1 wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

I was going to link that debate, but decided against it :p

Lol...why?

Didn't feel like it

It's an interesting debate, but it has nothing to do with this thread. Obviously bsh1 linked the debate for the purpose of showing that F16 won the debate and therefore politificat is not biased.

However, the fact that F16 won that debate doesn't mean that politifact isn't biased, because the outcomes of debates do not define what is or is not a fact.... which is why in large part linking the debate was silly.
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2/14/2016 6:55:35 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
The tradition of newspaper political endorsements is pretty strange really. I guess it's good in the sense that it means that newspapers are open about their political leanings, but you can usually deduce that pretty easily anyway.
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2/14/2016 6:55:50 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:21:57 PM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:16:22 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:56 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:09 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:45:25 AM, bsh1 wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

I was going to link that debate, but decided against it :p

Lol...why?

Didn't feel like it

It's an interesting debate, but it has nothing to do with this thread. Obviously bsh1 linked the debate for the purpose of showing that F16 won the debate and therefore politificat is not biased.

However, the fact that F16 won that debate doesn't mean that politifact isn't biased, because the outcomes of debates do not define what is or is not a fact.... which is why in large part linking the debate was silly.

Two top tier members debating literally the topic of OP....that is something worth linking.

Also I'd rather read what F16 and Roy have to say on the issue than a reddit thread.
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2/14/2016 7:03:43 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:55:35 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
The tradition of newspaper political endorsements is pretty strange really. I guess it's good in the sense that it means that newspapers are open about their political leanings, but you can usually deduce that pretty easily anyway.

I agree... I think that the only reason it goes on is because it's always gone on.
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2/15/2016 11:51:28 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:21:57 PM, YYW wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:16:22 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:56 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/14/2016 8:15:09 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/14/2016 6:45:25 AM, bsh1 wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

I was going to link that debate, but decided against it :p

Lol...why?

Didn't feel like it

It's an interesting debate, but it has nothing to do with this thread. Obviously bsh1 linked the debate for the purpose of showing that F16 won the debate and therefore politificat is not biased.

However, the fact that F16 won that debate doesn't mean that politifact isn't biased, because the outcomes of debates do not define what is or is not a fact.... which is why in large part linking the debate was silly.

The reason for my linking the debate is the relevance of this and the fact that such a debate has already been done, which might be interesting for you to read. As such, your interpretation of my post is false.
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6/12/2016 4:59:49 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Bumping because this is relevant:

http://www.politifact.com...

lol... while Trump's taking back some stuff is questionable, he was clearly joking here...

I mean, Trump doesn't believe in anthropogenic global warming, and that's a wrong position, but "a hoax invented by the Chinese" clearly deserves something less than "mostly true," especially since similar claims by Trump are dismissed as "mostly false" even when people took those back.

Politifact really does seem biased.
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6/12/2016 5:32:43 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
It was easy to tell Politifact had a leftist bias.

They show bias with hard they judge someone's statements.

They show bias in what statements they examine for the "truth".
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6/13/2016 12:29:08 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 2/14/2016 6:41:55 AM, YYW wrote:
https://www.reddit.com...

That endorsement came from the editorial board, that is not proof of bias. And if you think I am a Clinton shill let me just ask that you look at my profile picture.