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Dark-one
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2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?
beng100
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2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?
EndarkenedRationalist
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2/17/2016 12:53:21 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Is that what this post means? I couldn't tell.
Dark-one
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2/17/2016 1:07:51 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Something along those lines.
Robkwoods
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2/17/2016 1:19:15 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

It is called voting in better representatives.

Government Program Efficacy:
Two years to achieve intended goal
Disbanded by popular vote

Honestly the Federal Government shouldn't be doing a whole lot. The states were designed to run experiments, the repercussions are less severe. One day we will figure it out.
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2/17/2016 1:22:55 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 1:07:51 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Something along those lines.

Judging a government by a business standard is a mistake; the two do not share the same primary goal.
Dark-one
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2/17/2016 1:32:26 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 1:22:55 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:07:51 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Something along those lines.

Judging a government by a business standard is a mistake; the two do not share the same primary goal.

Business standard= know what you're best at, get rid of everything that doesn't contribute towards it.
Companies that have survived competition cycles live by this.
EndarkenedRationalist
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2/17/2016 1:33:10 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 1:32:26 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:22:55 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:07:51 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Something along those lines.

Judging a government by a business standard is a mistake; the two do not share the same primary goal.

Business standard= know what you're best at, get rid of everything that doesn't contribute towards it.
Companies that have survived competition cycles live by this.

Irrelevant to what I said.
Dark-one
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2/17/2016 1:38:40 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 1:33:10 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:32:26 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:22:55 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:07:51 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Something along those lines.

Judging a government by a business standard is a mistake; the two do not share the same primary goal.

Business standard= know what you're best at, get rid of everything that doesn't contribute towards it.
Companies that have survived competition cycles live by this.

Irrelevant to what I said.

Yes, this is true, business goes for the money.
However, you can consider an increase and decrease in certain things "profit" for the state.
For example, gaining geopolitical dominance somewhere in the world could be considered profit for the country.
Dark-one
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2/17/2016 1:38:40 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 1:33:10 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:32:26 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:22:55 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:07:51 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Something along those lines.

Judging a government by a business standard is a mistake; the two do not share the same primary goal.

Business standard= know what you're best at, get rid of everything that doesn't contribute towards it.
Companies that have survived competition cycles live by this.

Irrelevant to what I said.

Yes, this is true, business goes for the money.
However, you can consider an increase and decrease in certain things "profit" for the state.
For example, gaining geopolitical dominance somewhere in the world could be considered profit for the country.
beng100
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2/17/2016 1:38:57 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 1:07:51 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Something along those lines.

I can see some logic in that. If a government is proving inept at managing the economy then it should be forced to stand down with fresh elections declared.
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2/17/2016 1:40:01 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 1:38:40 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:33:10 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:32:26 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:22:55 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 1:07:51 AM, Dark-one wrote:
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Something along those lines.

Judging a government by a business standard is a mistake; the two do not share the same primary goal.

Business standard= know what you're best at, get rid of everything that doesn't contribute towards it.
Companies that have survived competition cycles live by this.

Irrelevant to what I said.

Yes, this is true, business goes for the money.
However, you can consider an increase and decrease in certain things "profit" for the state.
For example, gaining geopolitical dominance somewhere in the world could be considered profit for the country.

By some people, yes. But that's not clear-cut, the way it is in a business. There is no objective measurement.
beng100
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2/17/2016 1:41:36 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 12:53:21 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 2/17/2016 12:49:39 AM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/15/2016 11:27:16 PM, Dark-one wrote:
In the business world there's a very simple mechanism to get rid of companies that don't serve it's customers properly (assuming there's competition)-- it's called not making a profit.

It's why capitalism has flourished so well compared to systems like communism.

The profit for a country could be considered high export, high GDP, low gene coefficient (if you know what I mean), high per capita, etc.

Could a similar system be implemented with government officials that doesn't require expecting all the voters to know what they're talking about? One that doesn't threaten our liberties?

So your suggesting a government be ejected from office for poor performance managing the economy?

Is that what this post means? I couldn't tell.

Yes I think so.