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2/18/2016 6:38:32 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
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2/18/2016 7:03:40 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/18/2016 6:38:32 AM, bsh1 wrote:
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The problem with getting news out of North Korea is it will always be filtered by South Korea , and they like to report any rumor as 'unverified' facts to make North Korea look bad (not to say that the N Korean gov isn't evil, it's just propaganda is rampant).

How can Un attack the South when there's fears of a coup? http://www.thedailybeast.com...

It's just the usual sabre rattling, I wouldn't be surprised if these were false alarms to raise support for the S. Korea Government. Although It is interesting to wonder when the Hermit Kingdom will finally collapse on itself ...
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2/18/2016 10:16:28 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/18/2016 6:38:32 AM, bsh1 wrote:
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Probably just more rhetoric and empty threats but you can never be sure what north Korea will do next. That sort of terror campaign could be effective I suppose as it could damage south korea, deny involvement and avoid a US military attack. from the norths distorted viewpoint anything it can do to weaken the south it will. Terrorism could be its new approach. It knows it can't afford to invade or bomb south Korea due to NATO reprisals but it probably thinks it will get away with terrorism and Maybe even small elements of guerrilla warfare.
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2/18/2016 10:45:35 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/18/2016 6:38:32 AM, bsh1 wrote:
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Do you have Netflix? If so, check out a new documentary that just came out on there called 'Propaganda Game'. It's a good watch and is relevant to the topic at hand.
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2/18/2016 2:43:41 PM
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As the others have said. There's a lot of propaganda being used to make the North look worse than they actually are - they are still bad though. It's difficult to trust this kind of information. With that said, I wouldn't entirely dismiss the possibility of this happening but I just wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that this is going to happen because it might not.
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2/18/2016 6:49:12 PM
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At 2/18/2016 2:43:41 PM, famousdebater wrote:
As the others have said. There's a lot of propaganda being used to make the North look worse than they actually are - they are still bad though. It's difficult to trust this kind of information.

I don't think anyone needs to make North Korea look worse, given how bad they are. That being said, is S. Korea not the nation best placed to get intel on the North?

With that said, I wouldn't entirely dismiss the possibility of this happening but I just wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that this is going to happen because it might not.

It might not, but it wouldn't surprise me given the current escalation in tensions.
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2/18/2016 7:58:15 PM
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At 2/18/2016 6:49:12 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/18/2016 2:43:41 PM, famousdebater wrote:
As the others have said. There's a lot of propaganda being used to make the North look worse than they actually are - they are still bad though. It's difficult to trust this kind of information.

I don't think anyone needs to make North Korea look worse, given how bad they are. That being said, is S. Korea not the nation best placed to get intel on the North?

In most scenarios the South is the best place to get information on the North but this isn't the case here. The South are trying to make North Korea look worse and more importantly they are trying to make allies with other countries and making sure that they don't support the North.

With that said, I wouldn't entirely dismiss the possibility of this happening but I just wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that this is going to happen because it might not.

It might not, but it wouldn't surprise me given the current escalation in tensions.
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2/18/2016 8:02:06 PM
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At 2/18/2016 7:58:15 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 2/18/2016 6:49:12 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/18/2016 2:43:41 PM, famousdebater wrote:
As the others have said. There's a lot of propaganda being used to make the North look worse than they actually are - they are still bad though. It's difficult to trust this kind of information.

I don't think anyone needs to make North Korea look worse, given how bad they are. That being said, is S. Korea not the nation best placed to get intel on the North?

In most scenarios the South is the best place to get information on the North but this isn't the case here.

Your arguments don't change the fact that the South is best placed to get the intel, they only change whether you trust the South to tell the truth to the rest of the world.

The South are trying to make North Korea look worse and more importantly they are trying to make allies with other countries and making sure that they don't support the North.

I don't think the South needs to make the North look any worse. Military seizure of a joint facility, a missile launch, a nuclear test, South broadcasts into the North, etc. What about this current climate would make you disbelieve the South? Surely, these are factors that show the volatility in the region is higher than normal, which would corroborate the South's claims.
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2/18/2016 8:24:51 PM
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The North has been "about to attack" since 1953. Just saying.
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2/18/2016 8:58:22 PM
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At 2/18/2016 8:24:51 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
The North has been "about to attack" since 1953. Just saying.

The article isn't talking about invasion. Attack could mean a terrorist strike or an artillery bombardment of a Southern town. The North has actually attacked the South in ways like those before.
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2/18/2016 9:07:20 PM
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At 2/18/2016 6:38:32 AM, bsh1 wrote:
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Have you seen the satellite photos showing activity at N. Korea missile sites?
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2/18/2016 9:14:02 PM
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At 2/18/2016 9:07:20 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/18/2016 6:38:32 AM, bsh1 wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com...

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Have you seen the satellite photos showing activity at N. Korea missile sites?

I've seen one or two.
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2/18/2016 9:16:28 PM
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At 2/18/2016 9:14:02 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Personally, I think it is good ole' saber-rattling on N. Korea's part. They have always done this. Early 1950s, if I remember correctly. This is something to be a little concerned about, but I don't think there is any need to worry right now,
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2/18/2016 9:18:39 PM
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At 2/18/2016 6:38:32 AM, bsh1 wrote:
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If North Korea attacked South Korea they would be completely alone based off of the reactions to their nuclear test. Even China shunned them. We already have about 25% of our military in the Pacific because of the artificial island issue with China and North Korea lacks the capabilities to launch a full-scale invasion. They may have the men, but they don't have the technology, firepower, or resources to sustain a war. The problem is retaliation as, based on propaganda, the North Koreans are going to die for their country and it will turn into an Operation Downfall-type scenario.
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2/18/2016 10:02:55 PM
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At 2/18/2016 9:16:28 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/18/2016 9:14:02 PM, bsh1 wrote:

Personally, I think it is good ole' saber-rattling on N. Korea's part. They have always done this. Early 1950s, if I remember correctly. This is something to be a little concerned about, but I don't think there is any need to worry right now,

I don't think it's a stretch for North Korea to bombard a couple of South Korean towns with artillery. It has already done that in the last decade.
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2/19/2016 3:40:48 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/18/2016 8:02:06 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/18/2016 7:58:15 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 2/18/2016 6:49:12 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/18/2016 2:43:41 PM, famousdebater wrote:
As the others have said. There's a lot of propaganda being used to make the North look worse than they actually are - they are still bad though. It's difficult to trust this kind of information.

I don't think anyone needs to make North Korea look worse, given how bad they are. That being said, is S. Korea not the nation best placed to get intel on the North?

In most scenarios the South is the best place to get information on the North but this isn't the case here.

Your arguments don't change the fact that the South is best placed to get the intel, they only change whether you trust the South to tell the truth to the rest of the world.

No, the best source would be an unbiased 3rd party. Which, again, is why I'd recommend the documentary out on Netflix now called 'The Propaganda Game' by a Spanish documentarian who was allowed in for 5 days to film and interview N. Korean citizens freely. Here's the preview:

Keep in mind that S. Korea is the West's way into Asia. If China loses N. Korea they'll have our new bases right next door - and they certainly don't want that. The only way N. Korea would attack is if China lost all control over them, which isn't very likely because N.K. is wholly dependent on them for circumventing the trade embargo.
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2/19/2016 3:44:10 AM
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At 2/19/2016 3:40:48 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
Keep in mind that S. Korea is the West's way into Asia. If China loses N. Korea they'll have our new bases right next door - and they certainly don't want that. The only way N. Korea would attack is if China lost all control over them, which isn't very likely because N.K. is wholly dependent on them for circumventing the trade embargo.

The above misunderstands what the definition of attack is, at least in the context of the article. Artillery shells fired across the border are an attack. North Korea did that just a few years ago. There is a HUGE difference between an "attack" and an "all-out attack."
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2/19/2016 3:53:32 AM
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At 2/19/2016 3:44:10 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/19/2016 3:40:48 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
Keep in mind that S. Korea is the West's way into Asia. If China loses N. Korea they'll have our new bases right next door - and they certainly don't want that. The only way N. Korea would attack is if China lost all control over them, which isn't very likely because N.K. is wholly dependent on them for circumventing the trade embargo.

The above misunderstands what the definition of attack is, at least in the context of the article. Artillery shells fired across the border are an attack. North Korea did that just a few years ago. There is a HUGE difference between an "attack" and an "all-out attack."

I'd like to study the exact terms of the ceasefire between the two nations, because if that really occurred then there should have been some sort of response. It'd be totally justified too. I do understand the difference between the two terms though, and would say it's a nuclear one (hehehe). Sorry... terrible joke.

For real though, I'm going to keep drilling that documentary in you until you watch it. It's truly fantastic and shed more light on the issue as a whole than anything I've been exposed to before. You really *really* wouldn't expect to see N. Koreans chilling at skate-parks eating ice-cream after reading these articles saying they're experiencing a famine and stuff.

What makes the documentary most interesting though is that you CAN still see some of their own propaganda at work, like during the part of the documentary when they ask to visit a Christian church (to confirm if there really is religious freedom there or not). I won't spoil anything, but it's a fantastic watch man, very illuminating.
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2/19/2016 3:55:31 AM
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At 2/19/2016 3:53:32 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/19/2016 3:44:10 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/19/2016 3:40:48 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
Keep in mind that S. Korea is the West's way into Asia. If China loses N. Korea they'll have our new bases right next door - and they certainly don't want that. The only way N. Korea would attack is if China lost all control over them, which isn't very likely because N.K. is wholly dependent on them for circumventing the trade embargo.

The above misunderstands what the definition of attack is, at least in the context of the article. Artillery shells fired across the border are an attack. North Korea did that just a few years ago. There is a HUGE difference between an "attack" and an "all-out attack."

I'd like to study the exact terms of the ceasefire between the two nations, because if that really occurred then there should have been some sort of response. It'd be totally justified too. I do understand the difference between the two terms though, and would say it's a nuclear one (hehehe). Sorry... terrible joke.

The South obviously returned artillery fire in-kind.
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2/19/2016 3:56:55 AM
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At 2/19/2016 3:55:31 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/19/2016 3:53:32 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/19/2016 3:44:10 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/19/2016 3:40:48 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
Keep in mind that S. Korea is the West's way into Asia. If China loses N. Korea they'll have our new bases right next door - and they certainly don't want that. The only way N. Korea would attack is if China lost all control over them, which isn't very likely because N.K. is wholly dependent on them for circumventing the trade embargo.

The above misunderstands what the definition of attack is, at least in the context of the article. Artillery shells fired across the border are an attack. North Korea did that just a few years ago. There is a HUGE difference between an "attack" and an "all-out attack."

I'd like to study the exact terms of the ceasefire between the two nations, because if that really occurred then there should have been some sort of response. It'd be totally justified too. I do understand the difference between the two terms though, and would say it's a nuclear one (hehehe). Sorry... terrible joke.

The South obviously returned artillery fire in-kind.

Yeah, I'm currently catching myself up on those events now.
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2/19/2016 11:11:04 PM
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At 2/19/2016 8:34:04 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
The DPRK is basically the crazy communist version of the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

How would you dare to insult the unity and integrity of the glorious Democratic People's republic of Korea? ):
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2/19/2016 11:12:50 PM
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At 2/19/2016 11:11:04 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 2/19/2016 8:34:04 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
The DPRK is basically the crazy communist version of the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

How would you dare to insult the unity and integrity of the glorious Democratic People's republic of Korea? ):

I am merely trying to lure the bourgeois counter revolutionaries and remold their ideologies to fit the glory of Juche.
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2/19/2016 11:19:13 PM
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At 2/19/2016 11:12:50 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:11:04 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 2/19/2016 8:34:04 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
The DPRK is basically the crazy communist version of the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

How would you dare to insult the unity and integrity of the glorious Democratic People's republic of Korea? ):

I am merely trying to lure the bourgeois counter revolutionaries and remold their ideologies to fit the glory of Juche.

Phew, just making sure you didn't get brainwashed by the corporate burgeois, did you know the DPRK has a perfect literacy rate?
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2/19/2016 11:22:25 PM
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At 2/19/2016 11:19:13 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:12:50 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:11:04 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 2/19/2016 8:34:04 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
The DPRK is basically the crazy communist version of the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

How would you dare to insult the unity and integrity of the glorious Democratic People's republic of Korea? ):

I am merely trying to lure the bourgeois counter revolutionaries and remold their ideologies to fit the glory of Juche.

Phew, just making sure you didn't get brainwashed by the corporate burgeois, did you know the DPRK has a perfect literacy rate?

Of course! It is common knowledge for everyone in True Korea to be educated.
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