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FREEDO
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11/4/2010 10:57:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The messages have been sent to the spokespeople of the various parties for them to send out the group messages for their own respective party.

I will announce the candidate of each party in this thread once I have been informed.

If you signed-up for a message and do not receive one within the next 12 hours please notify in this thread.
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11/4/2010 11:37:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Cody_Franklin has been nominated for the candidacy of Debate.org President by the Freedom Party.
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11/5/2010 10:37:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I haven't received any massages.
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
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: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
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: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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11/5/2010 11:22:46 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:16:22 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 11:11:32 AM, OreEle wrote:
So which parties are still alive?
Authoparty, of course.

I think it is only the Authoparty, Freedom Party, and Party Party.

Though I could be mistaken.
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11/5/2010 11:54:25 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Two parties have been dissolved and the founder of one has not yet sent out the primary election message. I will now be taking on the duty of sending that message.
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Mirza
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11/5/2010 11:58:16 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
What exactly is the difference between Freedom Party and Party Party? Both are merely contradicting the ToS and cannot logically be moderating the forums at all.
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11/5/2010 11:59:35 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:05:05 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
What's the time limit for registering as a candidate?

What's the points of candidates at all?
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Danielle
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11/5/2010 12:00:46 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
By the way when everyone in the Freedom Party votes Freedom Party, so the Freedom Party wins (due to sheer volume), is that really implementing a party that embraces Freedom? Hmm, sounds more like tyranny of the majority to me.
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11/5/2010 12:02:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:05:05 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
What's the time limit for registering as a candidate?

Were you not included in the Freedom Party nomination process? If you still want to run as a candidate you can simple announce yourself and Independent one right now.
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11/5/2010 12:03:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:00:46 PM, theLwerd wrote:
By the way when everyone in the Freedom Party votes Freedom Party, so the Freedom Party wins (due to sheer volume), is that really implementing a party that embraces Freedom? Hmm, sounds more like tyranny of the majority to me.

Actually, Party Party is in the majority right now and we have a large amount of Independents.
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11/5/2010 12:05:25 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 11:58:16 AM, Mirza wrote:
What exactly is the difference between Freedom Party and Party Party? Both are merely contradicting the ToS and cannot logically be moderating the forums at all.
I repeat.
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11/5/2010 12:05:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:00:46 PM, theLwerd wrote:
By the way when everyone in the Freedom Party votes Freedom Party, so the Freedom Party wins (due to sheer volume), is that really implementing a party that embraces Freedom? Hmm, sounds more like tyranny of the majority to me.

It's only tyrannical if we start oppressing everyone for no reason. I'm pretty sure that's the AuthoParty's platform (though I'm assuming that they'd replace "for no reason" with "for the sake of responsibility").
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11/5/2010 12:09:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:05:54 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 11/5/2010 12:00:46 PM, theLwerd wrote:
By the way when everyone in the Freedom Party votes Freedom Party, so the Freedom Party wins (due to sheer volume), is that really implementing a party that embraces Freedom? Hmm, sounds more like tyranny of the majority to me.

It's only tyrannical if we start oppressing everyone for no reason. I'm pretty sure that's the AuthoParty's platform (though I'm assuming that they'd replace "for no reason" with "for the sake of responsibility").
How would we "oppress" people? By making many feel comfortable? And if some people here cannot live without harassing others, then a better site for them is one like this: http://www.psychologicalselfhelp.org...

Also, answering the suggestions of members here is not oppression. Letting people be harassed is.
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11/5/2010 12:13:29 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:09:38 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 12:05:54 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 11/5/2010 12:00:46 PM, theLwerd wrote:
By the way when everyone in the Freedom Party votes Freedom Party, so the Freedom Party wins (due to sheer volume), is that really implementing a party that embraces Freedom? Hmm, sounds more like tyranny of the majority to me.

It's only tyrannical if we start oppressing everyone for no reason. I'm pretty sure that's the AuthoParty's platform (though I'm assuming that they'd replace "for no reason" with "for the sake of responsibility").
How would we "oppress" people? By making many feel comfortable?

I guess you forgot what "Autho" is short for.

And if some people here cannot live without harassing others, then a better site for them is one like this: http://www.psychologicalselfhelp.org...

Also, answering the suggestions of members here is not oppression. Letting people be harassed is.

Have you defined "harassment" yet?
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11/5/2010 12:15:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:13:29 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I guess you forgot what "Autho" is short for.
Control, but control is not necessarily equivalent to oppression. For instance, you cannot oppress a car. If, however, a car is about to hit someone but you have control over it, then to save that person, you need to make use of the control. So, you oppress none, but control the car. Similarly, the content of the site will be controlled, but none will be oppressed.

Have you defined "harassment" yet?
Yes I have.
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11/5/2010 12:16:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:15:37 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/5/2010 12:13:29 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I guess you forgot what "Autho" is short for.
Control, but control is not necessarily equivalent to oppression. For instance, you cannot oppress a car. If, however, a car is about to hit someone but you have control over it, then to save that person, you need to make use of the control. So, you oppress none, but control the car. Similarly, the content of the site will be controlled, but none will be oppressed.

Cars aren't autonomous.

Have you defined "harassment" yet?
Yes I have.

Indeed. I've answered it in the relevant thread.
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11/5/2010 12:18:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:16:18 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
Cars aren't autonomous.
Is this site autonomous?

Indeed. I've answered it in the relevant thread.
Ditto.
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11/5/2010 12:19:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:05:54 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 11/5/2010 12:00:46 PM, theLwerd wrote:
By the way when everyone in the Freedom Party votes Freedom Party, so the Freedom Party wins (due to sheer volume), is that really implementing a party that embraces Freedom? Hmm, sounds more like tyranny of the majority to me.

It's only tyrannical if we start oppressing everyone for no reason. I'm pretty sure that's the AuthoParty's platform (though I'm assuming that they'd replace "for no reason" with "for the sake of responsibility").
Oppression is oppression regardless of the imperative or reasoning. Justify that oppression.
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Mirza
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11/5/2010 12:23:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:21:06 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
The people on it are.
But people are free to choose whether or not they want to be on this site. For friendly people, who are the majority I hope, this site will be very good. For the people who want to ruin the site and oppress people by harassing them, it does not welcome them. There will be more oppression if we do nothing about people who feel bad due to others insulting them all the time than if we choose the lesser evil (which is not an evil i and itself) and forbid horrible comments to others.
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11/5/2010 12:26:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:25:20 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
Cody, all forms government, from minarchist to theocratic are authorative to a degree.
Yes, that is certainly correct. The Freedom Party and Party Party both contradict the ToS and their own policies.
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11/5/2010 12:26:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/5/2010 12:25:20 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
Cody, all forms government, from minarchist to theocratic are authorative to a degree.

Something an Authoritarian and an Anarchist can agree on.
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