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smelisox
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2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted

Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)
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2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.
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2/23/2016 8:14:10 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

No, the EU is great.
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2/23/2016 8:15:21 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 8:14:10 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

No, the EU is great.

sure it is.
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2/23/2016 8:15:21 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 8:14:10 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

No, the EU is great.

sure it is.
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2/23/2016 8:55:22 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

Yes agree. Im voting to quit that beaurocratic shambles.
beng100
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2/23/2016 8:57:15 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 8:14:10 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

No, the EU is great.

No its not. The eu is a disaster. It's a parasitic organization dragging Britain down. NATO meanwhile helps ensure our national security.
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2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).
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2/23/2016 9:14:00 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane

Entrepreneurial genius, outspoken, controversial, intelligent, strategic. The best candidate to turn around the American economy, deal with immigration and be strong on foreign policy.

Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Decent candidate but I think it's time to move on from the Clinton dynasty. Very similar to Obama. Not offering change but continuation of current mediocrity.

Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals

Generally agree. A clown.

Rubio: Moron and incompetent

Strong candidate in nearly all areas. Only slightly behind trump virtue of donalds business experience and success.

Cruz: Moron and incompetent

Religious extremist. Too far to the right for me despite agreeing with much of his policy.

Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt

Agree he is a clown.

Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted

Democratic, good hearted and honest. But economically dangerous to the USA. His socialist policies will increase national debt by $11 trillion over ten years in the best case scenario. Likely recession, high unemployment and rapidly shrinking private sector as a result. Economically incompetent.


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

NATO helps protect our national security. Why leave?
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2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.
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2/23/2016 9:49:30 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Its always interesting to see what foreigners think of our politics. You can always see their own national biases permeate through their responses. Though your answers are slightly off for a few a the candidates (especially Sanders), you can never really know a country until you have lived there.
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2/23/2016 9:50:39 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 8:55:22 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

Yes agree. Im voting to quit that beaurocratic shambles.

You can't speall bureaucratic but can vote? No wonder we have another Tory government.
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2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.
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2/23/2016 9:56:30 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

That's generally true, but I doubt it's in his interests to see Moscow and saint Petersburg completely destroyed. The UK has four nuclear submarines and hundreds of nuclear warheads. I think he would pick an easier target for his aggression.
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2/23/2016 9:57:50 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

Putin has every reason to hate NATO and want to protect his country. I have every respect for the Russians hating NATO. They said they would never allow eastern european countries in NATO as the terms to Russia's surrender in 1989, and yet let Poland join less than 10 years after. It's treachery, plain and simple.
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2/23/2016 9:59:42 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 8:57:15 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 8:14:10 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

No, the EU is great.

No its not. The eu is a disaster. It's a parasitic organization dragging Britain down. NATO meanwhile helps ensure our national security.

NATO ensures that America is the military of Europe. It'd be asinine for Europeans to leave it, but you should so we don't have to drive ourselves into debt.
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2/23/2016 10:04:15 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 9:50:39 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 8:55:22 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

Yes agree. Im voting to quit that beaurocratic shambles.

You can't speall bureaucratic but can vote? No wonder we have another Tory government.

Of course spelling is essential in determining intelligence! It's also interesting how the more intelligent and better off citizens of the uk tend to vote Tory. I think you will agree with me in saying that those with lower levels of education and poorer literacy tend to vote Labour. Read my thread about quitting the eu if you wish to discuss this further. It's not related to this topic and I've already made a detailed list of reasons to quit.
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2/23/2016 10:09:19 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 9:59:42 PM, walker_harris3 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 8:57:15 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 8:14:10 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

No, the EU is great.

No its not. The eu is a disaster. It's a parasitic organization dragging Britain down. NATO meanwhile helps ensure our national security.

NATO ensures that America is the military of Europe. It'd be asinine for Europeans to leave it, but you should so we don't have to drive ourselves into debt.

I think Maybe you misinterpreted my post. I want to quit the eu but I want to stay in nato. I agree its pointless and stupid to quit NATO. The UK has a strong enough military though that it is not under any kind of threat.
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2/23/2016 10:15:58 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 10:09:19 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:59:42 PM, walker_harris3 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 8:57:15 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 8:14:10 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:57:38 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

You should leave the EU first.

No, the EU is great.

No its not. The eu is a disaster. It's a parasitic organization dragging Britain down. NATO meanwhile helps ensure our national security.

NATO ensures that America is the military of Europe. It'd be asinine for Europeans to leave it, but you should so we don't have to drive ourselves into debt.

I think Maybe you misinterpreted my post. I want to quit the eu but I want to stay in nato. I agree its pointless and stupid to quit NATO. The UK has a strong enough military though that it is not under any kind of threat.

I know, I was just saying how NATO is causing America to be the military of Europe and the world and isn't even needed anymore because the Cold War has been over for almost 30 years now. We have hundreds of pointless installations all over Europe that we are still paying for. The countries of Europe are certainly strong enough to sustain their own force and keep up with their own bases, there's absolutely no point in us still being there, and all it does is create international tension with Russia.
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2/23/2016 10:39:15 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 9:57:50 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

Putin has every reason to hate NATO and want to protect his country. I have every respect for the Russians hating NATO. They said they would never allow eastern european countries in NATO as the terms to Russia's surrender in 1989, and yet let Poland join less than 10 years after. It's treachery, plain and simple

NATO was a legitimate organization to protect against very real Soviet aggression post WW2. You may have a point with the treachery, but considering the aggression and underhanded murderous tactics Putin has demonstrated merely for a joining a pact do defend against what should have been a non-existant threat post-1991, I can't blame Poland for wanting to get out of an agreement that leaves them open to attack. That non-Nato agreement was essentially a non-defense treaty. Seems like a lethal mistake. Putin has people murdered who critizise him. They need protection now, regardless of circumstances in 1989.
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2/23/2016 11:06:35 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 9:56:30 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

That's generally true, but I doubt it's in his interests to see Moscow and saint Petersburg completely destroyed. The UK has four nuclear submarines and hundreds of nuclear warheads. I think he would pick an easier target for his aggression.

I doubt he's worried about that actually happening. Nuclear weapons are the first real war deterrent weapon, and I'm afraid most Western nations would buckle under threat before Putin, to avoid massive death tolls. Putin would push it much closer and insunuate Dead Hand. Our two best hopes are an end to Putin's government or the West becomes hawkish enough to employ defenses strong enough to negate an actual nuclear strike.
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2/23/2016 11:56:54 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 11:06:35 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:56:30 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

That's generally true, but I doubt it's in his interests to see Moscow and saint Petersburg completely destroyed. The UK has four nuclear submarines and hundreds of nuclear warheads. I think he would pick an easier target for his aggression.

I doubt he's worried about that actually happening. Nuclear weapons are the first real war deterrent weapon, and I'm afraid most Western nations would buckle under threat before Putin, to avoid massive death tolls. Putin would push it much closer and insunuate Dead Hand. Our two best hopes are an end to Putin's government or the West becomes hawkish enough to employ defenses strong enough to negate an actual nuclear strike.

Yes missile defence is a good idea. My point is though putin would not launch any sort of military action against the UK unless we deliberately provoked Russia. We aren't stupid enough to do that. I'm sure Putin would prefer to avoid nuclear war. There are much easier targets for him to pick on. If he launched nuclear weapons at us I guarentee we would send them back.
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2/24/2016 6:47:26 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 11:06:35 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:56:30 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

That's generally true, but I doubt it's in his interests to see Moscow and saint Petersburg completely destroyed. The UK has four nuclear submarines and hundreds of nuclear warheads. I think he would pick an easier target for his aggression.

I doubt he's worried about that actually happening. Nuclear weapons are the first real war deterrent weapon, and I'm afraid most Western nations would buckle under threat before Putin, to avoid massive death tolls. Putin would push it much closer and insunuate Dead Hand. Our two best hopes are an end to Putin's government or the West becomes hawkish enough to employ defenses strong enough to negate an actual nuclear strike.

Their is no nuclear defense system on the planet that can combat the sheer number of ICBM's the permanent members of the security council have. A few hundred would be unstoppable, which is why the US and Russia don't waste money on trying to make such a defense. All current defense system are in place in case a rogue nation or group decides to launch a few warheads (*cough* North Korea).
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2/24/2016 7:53:59 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 11:56:54 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 11:06:35 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:56:30 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

That's generally true, but I doubt it's in his interests to see Moscow and saint Petersburg completely destroyed. The UK has four nuclear submarines and hundreds of nuclear warheads. I think he would pick an easier target for his aggression.

I doubt he's worried about that actually happening. Nuclear weapons are the first real war deterrent weapon, and I'm afraid most Western nations would buckle under threat before Putin, to avoid massive death tolls. Putin would push it much closer and insunuate Dead Hand. Our two best hopes are an end to Putin's government or the West becomes hawkish enough to employ defenses strong enough to negate an actual nuclear strike.

Yes missile defence is a good idea. My point is though putin would not launch any sort of military action against the UK unless we deliberately provoked Russia. We aren't stupid enough to do that. I'm sure Putin would prefer to avoid nuclear war. There are much easier targets for him to pick on. If he launched nuclear weapons at us I guarentee we would send them back.

There wouldn't be anyone to send them back. Do you even realise how POWERFUL a nuclear bomb is? A hydrogen bomb? I don't think you do. For an atomic, picture Nagasaki times 1000. For hydrogen, Nagasaki times 10000.
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2/24/2016 8:56:25 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/24/2016 7:53:59 PM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/23/2016 11:56:54 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 11:06:35 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:56:30 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

That's generally true, but I doubt it's in his interests to see Moscow and saint Petersburg completely destroyed. The UK has four nuclear submarines and hundreds of nuclear warheads. I think he would pick an easier target for his aggression.

I doubt he's worried about that actually happening. Nuclear weapons are the first real war deterrent weapon, and I'm afraid most Western nations would buckle under threat before Putin, to avoid massive death tolls. Putin would push it much closer and insunuate Dead Hand. Our two best hopes are an end to Putin's government or the West becomes hawkish enough to employ defenses strong enough to negate an actual nuclear strike.

Yes missile defence is a good idea. My point is though putin would not launch any sort of military action against the UK unless we deliberately provoked Russia. We aren't stupid enough to do that. I'm sure Putin would prefer to avoid nuclear war. There are much easier targets for him to pick on. If he launched nuclear weapons at us I guarentee we would send them back.

There wouldn't be anyone to send them back. Do you even realise how POWERFUL a nuclear bomb is? A hydrogen bomb? I don't think you do. For an atomic, picture Nagasaki times 1000. For hydrogen, Nagasaki times 10000.

The UK has 4 nuclear submarines. The Russians know if they attack us retaliatory attacks curtosy of these submarines will occur. Yes russia could destroy the UK but I can't see how it would be worth the destruction of many of Russia's big cities.
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2/25/2016 10:05:52 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Romney: Mormon and incompetant
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2/26/2016 3:39:32 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/24/2016 6:47:26 PM, 58539672 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 11:06:35 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:56:30 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

That's generally true, but I doubt it's in his interests to see Moscow and saint Petersburg completely destroyed. The UK has four nuclear submarines and hundreds of nuclear warheads. I think he would pick an easier target for his aggression.

I doubt he's worried about that actually happening. Nuclear weapons are the first real war deterrent weapon, and I'm afraid most Western nations would buckle under threat before Putin, to avoid massive death tolls. Putin would push it much closer and insunuate Dead Hand. Our two best hopes are an end to Putin's government or the West becomes hawkish enough to employ defenses strong enough to negate an actual nuclear strike.

Their is no nuclear defense system on the planet that can combat the sheer number of ICBM's the permanent members of the security council have. A few hundred would be unstoppable, which is why the US and Russia don't waste money on trying to make such a defense. All current defense system are in place in case a rogue nation or group decides to launch a few warheads (*cough* North Korea).

I don't know how much you do or do not know about nuclear weapons post Little Boy, but they are a very complex and precise device. Kill vehicles are effective at stopping them just by damaging them and sheer velocity. Kill vehicles are also easier and cheaper to manufacture, and less risky to deploy than ICBMs. They don't even need warheads. If a nation can field thousands of nuclear ICBMs, they could certainly afford to deploy tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of kill vehicles. The waste of money would be in not deploying a defense and dealing with surrender or cleanup of being nuked. Only people who have been seduced by an attacker would say defense is pointless.
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2/26/2016 6:24:16 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 3:39:32 AM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/24/2016 6:47:26 PM, 58539672 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 11:06:35 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:56:30 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:50:53 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:20:05 PM, beng100 wrote:
At 2/23/2016 9:01:02 PM, Skynet wrote:
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

Trump: Corrupt actor, self absorbed, self serving, but not insane.
Clinton: Lied about being shot in Turkey, the Balkans, covered up events surrounding Benghazi, moved top secret documents to her private server and decided which ones to turn over after she went through them herself. (You'll investigate what I choose you investigate)
Bush: Weak. Britain is the last country that should be complaining about war crimes.
Rubio: Protege of Bush, is actually smarter than Bush, very adaptable but probably not honest about what he really believes.
Cruz: Very ideologically consistent and open about it, whether or not you agree with him.
"Black guy" (Ben Carson): Accomplished and ground breaking pediatric surgeon. Complete opposite of Obama but not that knowledgeable on foreign policy.
Sanders: Seems like a nice guy, ideologically consistent, intends to further leverage economic/cultural divide to further fund and expand our already unfundable and ineffective social programs. So no, he's not really good hearted.

If NATO was gone, I hope for the sake of our friends in your country you have an effective military deterrent to Putin. Don't expect to join him on terms that are good for Britian, Russia only respects those who help expand the Russian Federation (also known as Putin).

I advocate staying in NATO, leaving is pointless and achieves nothing but reduce national security. However if we did quit we do have an effective nuclear deterrent against Putin. We could destroy Moscow if needed so I highly doubt he will mess with our territory. Yes he could wipe us off the map in a nuclear war but the damage inflicted on Russia would not be worth it.

I hope you are right. But I fear Putin doesn't hold his countrymen's lives as valuable as Great Britain does her own citizens. Great Britian is probably more concerned about Russian citizens than Putin is for that matter.

That's generally true, but I doubt it's in his interests to see Moscow and saint Petersburg completely destroyed. The UK has four nuclear submarines and hundreds of nuclear warheads. I think he would pick an easier target for his aggression.

I doubt he's worried about that actually happening. Nuclear weapons are the first real war deterrent weapon, and I'm afraid most Western nations would buckle under threat before Putin, to avoid massive death tolls. Putin would push it much closer and insunuate Dead Hand. Our two best hopes are an end to Putin's government or the West becomes hawkish enough to employ defenses strong enough to negate an actual nuclear strike.

Their is no nuclear defense system on the planet that can combat the sheer number of ICBM's the permanent members of the security council have. A few hundred would be unstoppable, which is why the US and Russia don't waste money on trying to make such a defense. All current defense system are in place in case a rogue nation or group decides to launch a few warheads (*cough* North Korea).

I don't know how much you do or do not know about nuclear weapons post Little Boy, but they are a very complex and precise device. Kill vehicles are effective at stopping them just by damaging them and sheer velocity. Kill vehicles are also easier and cheaper to manufacture, and less risky to deploy than ICBMs. They don't even need warheads. If a nation can field thousands of nuclear ICBMs, they could certainly afford to deploy tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of kill vehicles. The waste of money would be in not deploying a defense and dealing with surrender or cleanup of being nuked. Only people who have been seduced by an attacker would say defense is pointless.

Ohh, you mean those kill vehicles that have only had 9 out of 17 successful tests, of which the tests were highly scripted with both the launch site and trajectory of the missile known in advance? Those same test that have never been against a missile that can reach the speed of an ICBM (that test is happening in 2017) or any form of sophisticated decoys and other countermeasures? Those same kill vehicles that even the Missile Defense Agency director Lt. General Obering says had no "operational capability" until it could handle multiple missiles? Those same kill vehicles that the Pentagon predicts will cost 1 billion dollars to station an additional 14 in Alaska, while Russia and China can each add 14 warheads at considerably less cost? Those kill vehicles that have been specifically made and stationed for use in case North Korea or Iran gets an ICBM, not Russia or China?

Are those the kill vehicles you are referring to?
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2/26/2016 1:52:25 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/23/2016 7:09:23 PM, smelisox wrote:
Trump: Insane
Clinton: Lied about being shot at by snipers in Turkey
Bush: Weak and the brother and son of war criminals
Rubio: Moron and incompetent
Cruz: Moron and incompetent
Black Guy: Idiot and a less competent Obama, actor so probably corrupt
Sanders: Genius, socialist, democratic, honest, good-hearted


Come on America. You can't be this stupid (joking, elect Trump so we have a reason to leave NATO)

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Better.
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