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2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.
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2/25/2016 2:44:18 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

I am against Democracy as well.
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2/25/2016 3:15:38 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

Me being Pro Death penalty for rapists is something that I get quite a bit of flack from by Democrats since a lot of them dont like the death penalty existing in the first place, yet alone being expanded to include rapists
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2/25/2016 3:24:12 AM
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I get a lot of pushback on the idea that Superman would handily defeat Batman in a fight, despite the absolute obviousness of that position.
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2/25/2016 3:36:02 AM
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Don't know. Probably incest, as long as two individuals are at or above the age of consent, is totally fine, even if it results in a pregnancy.
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2/25/2016 3:39:00 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/25/2016 3:24:12 AM, Maikuru wrote:
I get a lot of pushback on the idea that Superman would handily defeat Batman in a fight, despite the absolute obviousness of that position.
It's basically become a really dumb meme at this point. Everyone's opinion worth caring about knows Superman beats Batman 99% of the time.
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2/25/2016 3:48:17 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

I think that Muslims are human beings.

I think that democracy is overrated.

I think that aristocracy is underrated.

I think that the claims of religion are both false and ought to be believed in. <- that's probably the biggest one.
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2/25/2016 4:10:36 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/25/2016 3:39:00 AM, Torton wrote:
At 2/25/2016 3:24:12 AM, Maikuru wrote:
I get a lot of pushback on the idea that Superman would handily defeat Batman in a fight, despite the absolute obviousness of that position.
It's basically become a really dumb meme at this point. Everyone's opinion worth caring about knows Superman beats Batman 99% of the time.

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2/25/2016 8:37:51 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/25/2016 3:48:17 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

I think that Muslims are human beings.

I think that democracy is overrated.

I think that aristocracy is underrated.

I think that the claims of religion are both false and ought to be believed in. <- that's probably the biggest one.

The only people who'd say aristocracy is underrated is those who haven't lived in one or who have a rose-tinted view of it.
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2/25/2016 9:19:56 AM
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I think Affirmative Action programs are unnecessary at this point in time.

I support testing parents before letting them have children, and denying them should they be too dumb, too poor, or too genetically inferior.

I support Eugenics and think it should be a top priority in scientific pursuits.

I support the Voluntary Euthanasia of senior citizens, and terminally ill patients.

I do not support the raising of the minimum wage.

I fully support Torture.
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2/25/2016 12:31:03 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

Allowing abortion at any stage of pregnancy.

Support for genetic modification of animals and plants to improve productivity and disease resistance.

Support for designer babies.

Support of using eugenics.

Atheistic agnosticism.
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2/25/2016 1:11:28 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/25/2016 3:48:17 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

I think that Muslims are human beings.

What are you talking about?
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2/25/2016 2:20:19 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
The Superman vs. Batman thing is still the most contentious position in this thread.
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2/25/2016 2:41:00 PM
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At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

I am against term limits

I am for a gun ban

I think businesses that cant hold their weight in a capitalistic society should be nationalized

I think the nazis had a good economic plan

I believe abortion should be legal throughout all 3 trimester

Im a bit of a fascist but I just like to be called a nationalist
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2/25/2016 2:57:48 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Probably the position that all/most recreational drugs should be legalized.

Here on DDO, it isn't too uncommon, but in real life, most people view it to be a totally insane policy.
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2/25/2016 5:53:26 PM
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At 2/25/2016 1:11:28 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/25/2016 3:48:17 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

I think that Muslims are human beings.

What are you talking about?

In this country at least, it's common to believe that Muslims are some special kind of 'evil'.
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2/25/2016 5:54:16 PM
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At 2/25/2016 8:37:51 AM, smelisox wrote:
At 2/25/2016 3:48:17 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

I think that Muslims are human beings.

I think that democracy is overrated.

I think that aristocracy is underrated.

I think that the claims of religion are both false and ought to be believed in. <- that's probably the biggest one.

The only people who'd say aristocracy is underrated is those who haven't lived in one or who have a rose-tinted view of it.

Cool story, bro. Way to argue your point convincingly.
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2/25/2016 6:37:52 PM
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At 2/25/2016 5:53:26 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 2/25/2016 1:11:28 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/25/2016 3:48:17 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 2/25/2016 2:37:07 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
On what position, on what issue, do you tend to find the most disagreement towards? What potion do you hold that you find the least people agreeing with and the most people disagreeing with it?

I'm firmly against term limits, especially for high government positions like Prime Minister.

I think that Muslims are human beings.

What are you talking about?

In this country at least, it's common to believe that Muslims are some special kind of 'evil'.

I was trying to sarcastically disagree with you.
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2/25/2016 6:47:38 PM
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Being Pro-life. At least, in my family and friend circle, I am the odd man out.
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2/25/2016 6:48:59 PM
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At 2/25/2016 9:19:56 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
I fully support Torture.

What do you mean by "fully?"
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2/25/2016 7:00:40 PM
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At 2/25/2016 3:24:12 AM, Maikuru wrote:
I get a lot of pushback on the idea that Superman would handily defeat Batman in a fight, despite the absolute obviousness of that position.

+1
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2/25/2016 7:07:49 PM
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Probably being pro-eugenics. Wouldn't have been that controversial 70 years ago, but most people these days consider it synonymous with Nazism, which is pretty hilarious.
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2/25/2016 7:17:17 PM
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I'm against affirmative action.

I'm an atheist.

I think that cats are objectively superior to dogs.

I am Pro a gun ban.

I'm against term limits.

I'm against the war on terror (which is pretty uncommon in the UK - don't know about the US but it doesn't seem too uncommon on here).

I believe that the rich should be taxed more.

I believe that xbox one is better than Ps4

I support racial profiling (to a certain extent)

I'm against socialism.
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2/25/2016 7:43:03 PM
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At 2/25/2016 6:48:59 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/25/2016 9:19:56 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
I fully support Torture.

What do you mean by "fully?"

Most people who support Torture support it solely in the case of terrorists/information-gathering. I view Torture in a more spiritual sense, akin to the Buddhist view that all things in this world lead to suffering. Suffering is a form of torture imo. If I want to accept Love, accept people, accept this life - then I must accept and support torture. Love always leads to suffering in some form, people can torture us in many ways other than physically, and in life - we suffer alot. For me, the simple act of living means that I fully support Torture.

Alot of my uncommon stances have unique and, admittedly, "weird" justifications like this one.

In a more practical sense of the question you are asking - in which I assume you frame torture in a U.S. Gov. acting against terrorists context - I still support Torture. Some people fully deserve to be tortured for the sake of delivering excruciating pain to someone who deserves it. For instance, a serial rapist or child molester shouldn't be put to death or given a life sentence, they should be tortured until they beg for their life - Perhaps cut off their manhood and force feed it to them... Ultimately, jail or death are not suitable punishments in some cases, torture should be used, imo.

For instance, if I had my way with Casey Anthony (who I still believe is guilty), I'd waterboard her until she begged for mercy and strip her of any chance to ever have another child. If I had my way with the Sandy Hook shooter, I'd make him be a rubber-bullet target for a children's gun safety and instruction class, for the rest of his life. These are examples of how I think torture would be a more fitting punishment for the crime.
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2/25/2016 7:43:48 PM
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At 2/25/2016 7:07:49 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Probably being pro-eugenics. Wouldn't have been that controversial 70 years ago, but most people these days consider it synonymous with Nazism, which is pretty hilarious.

... and dumb since it'd be incredibly beneficial.
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2/25/2016 8:01:55 PM
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At 2/25/2016 7:43:48 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/25/2016 7:07:49 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Probably being pro-eugenics. Wouldn't have been that controversial 70 years ago, but most people these days consider it synonymous with Nazism, which is pretty hilarious.

... and dumb since it'd be incredibly beneficial.

Agree to disagree.
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2/25/2016 8:04:02 PM
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At 2/25/2016 7:43:03 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/25/2016 6:48:59 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/25/2016 9:19:56 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
Casey Anthony (who I still believe is guilty),

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2/25/2016 8:04:13 PM
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At 2/25/2016 8:01:55 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/25/2016 7:43:48 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/25/2016 7:07:49 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Probably being pro-eugenics. Wouldn't have been that controversial 70 years ago, but most people these days consider it synonymous with Nazism, which is pretty hilarious.

... and dumb since it'd be incredibly beneficial.

Agree to disagree.

Agree to agree to disagree despite agreeing with agreement being disagreed with.

Agreed?
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2/25/2016 8:17:21 PM
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At 2/25/2016 8:01:55 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 2/25/2016 7:43:48 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/25/2016 7:07:49 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Probably being pro-eugenics. Wouldn't have been that controversial 70 years ago, but most people these days consider it synonymous with Nazism, which is pretty hilarious.

... and dumb since it'd be incredibly beneficial.

Agree to disagree.

I'd actually love to talk about it because rarely do good conversations ever birth from topics of this nature.

So, why do you not support Eugenics? Is it because of the Nazi association in the past, or are there other reasons?

(Note - I'm about to head to work, so my earliest reply will be around 9:30 pm eastern time)
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