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Why Does the RNC Dislike Cruz?

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3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?
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3/3/2016 12:03:33 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he's an obstructionist sh!thead with all the charismatic appeal of a severed penis.
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3/3/2016 12:25:41 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
He's such a slimeball that establishment politicians hate him.
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3/3/2016 2:00:16 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 12:03:33 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he's an obstructionist *censored* with all the charismatic appeal of a severed *censored*.

Care to answer that without complete hate? Lol
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"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
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"Overthrow Assad, heil jihad." -- 16kadams when trolling in hangout
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3/3/2016 2:00:28 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 12:25:41 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
He's such a slimeball that establishment politicians hate him.

Hm, okay.
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"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." -- Vaarka
"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
"I mean, at this rate, I'd argue for a ham sandwich presidency." -- ResponsiblyIrresponsible
"Overthrow Assad, heil jihad." -- 16kadams when trolling in hangout
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3/3/2016 2:03:44 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he is a psychopath who is willing to burn Washington to get his way. He governs like an insurgent. He lies more than anyone else in the beltway.
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3/3/2016 2:08:06 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 2:03:44 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he is a psychopath who is willing to burn Washington to get his way. He governs like an insurgent. He lies more than anyone else in the beltway.

I see. I hear a lot of hate about him, but I was just curious in having someone explain why people/establishment hate him so much.
"The right to 360 noscope noobs shall not be infringed!!!" -- tajshar2k
"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." -- Vaarka
"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
"I mean, at this rate, I'd argue for a ham sandwich presidency." -- ResponsiblyIrresponsible
"Overthrow Assad, heil jihad." -- 16kadams when trolling in hangout
"Hillary Clinton is not my favorite person ... and her campaign is as inspiring as a bowl of cottage cheese." -- YYW
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3/3/2016 2:12:35 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 2:08:06 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 3/3/2016 2:03:44 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he is a psychopath who is willing to burn Washington to get his way. He governs like an insurgent. He lies more than anyone else in the beltway.

I see. I hear a lot of hate about him, but I was just curious in having someone explain why people/establishment hate him so much.

For these reasons.

You're also a special kind of person to fake being an evangelical to get votes.
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3/3/2016 2:13:15 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 2:12:35 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 3/3/2016 2:08:06 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 3/3/2016 2:03:44 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he is a psychopath who is willing to burn Washington to get his way. He governs like an insurgent. He lies more than anyone else in the beltway.

I see. I hear a lot of hate about him, but I was just curious in having someone explain why people/establishment hate him so much.

For these reasons.

You're also a special kind of person to fake being an evangelical to get votes.

Lol.
"The right to 360 noscope noobs shall not be infringed!!!" -- tajshar2k
"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." -- Vaarka
"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
"I mean, at this rate, I'd argue for a ham sandwich presidency." -- ResponsiblyIrresponsible
"Overthrow Assad, heil jihad." -- 16kadams when trolling in hangout
"Hillary Clinton is not my favorite person ... and her campaign is as inspiring as a bowl of cottage cheese." -- YYW
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3/3/2016 2:15:37 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 2:08:06 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 3/3/2016 2:03:44 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he is a psychopath who is willing to burn Washington to get his way. He governs like an insurgent. He lies more than anyone else in the beltway.

I see. I hear a lot of hate about him, but I was just curious in having someone explain why people/establishment hate him so much.

I could maybe at some point post a detailed analysis of the specific things he's done, thing's he's flip-flopped on, political games he's played, etc. That might be helpful to understand. But the point is that the sum of all of those things is why people hate him; his reputation is one of an unscrupulous manipulator who will stop at nothing to get his way.

That distinguishes him from most politicians. Most politicians, for example, would not gambol with the full faith and credit of the United States treasury. Cruz is happy to do that, because whether the US's credit rating plunges, or whether it doesn't, he knows that he wins and he does not give a sh!t about what impact that will have on the American people. He knows that Obama would have taken the blame and that even if he drove the United States into fiscal armageddon which Republicans have been trying to do since Obama took office, he would benefit politically from it.

Even his fellow Republicans hate him for that reason. They see him as someone who is dangerous; who is unwilling to play by the institutional rules, and who will destroy anyone or anything that gets in his way.
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3/3/2016 2:16:55 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 2:15:37 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/3/2016 2:08:06 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 3/3/2016 2:03:44 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he is a psychopath who is willing to burn Washington to get his way. He governs like an insurgent. He lies more than anyone else in the beltway.

I see. I hear a lot of hate about him, but I was just curious in having someone explain why people/establishment hate him so much.

I could maybe at some point post a detailed analysis of the specific things he's done, thing's he's flip-flopped on, political games he's played, etc. That might be helpful to understand. But the point is that the sum of all of those things is why people hate him; his reputation is one of an unscrupulous manipulator who will stop at nothing to get his way.

That distinguishes him from most politicians. Most politicians, for example, would not gambol with the full faith and credit of the United States treasury. Cruz is happy to do that, because whether the US's credit rating plunges, or whether it doesn't, he knows that he wins and he does not give a sh!t about what impact that will have on the American people. He knows that Obama would have taken the blame and that even if he drove the United States into fiscal armageddon which Republicans have been trying to do since Obama took office, he would benefit politically from it.

Even his fellow Republicans hate him for that reason. They see him as someone who is dangerous; who is unwilling to play by the institutional rules, and who will destroy anyone or anything that gets in his way.

Ah, okay.
"The right to 360 noscope noobs shall not be infringed!!!" -- tajshar2k
"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." -- Vaarka
"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
"I mean, at this rate, I'd argue for a ham sandwich presidency." -- ResponsiblyIrresponsible
"Overthrow Assad, heil jihad." -- 16kadams when trolling in hangout
"Hillary Clinton is not my favorite person ... and her campaign is as inspiring as a bowl of cottage cheese." -- YYW
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3/3/2016 4:32:25 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 2:00:16 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 3/3/2016 12:03:33 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he's an obstructionist *censored* with all the charismatic appeal of a severed *censored*.

Care to answer that without complete hate? Lol

YYW summed it up pretty well.

Lindsey Graham once said that "if you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you."
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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3/3/2016 4:35:49 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
It should also be pointed out that Cruz literally thinks he was anointed by God to be president, which probably explains his approach to politics at least in part. After all, how can he let down God?
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3/3/2016 8:32:00 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Remember that government shut down in Congress that happened about a year or two ago over Obamacare? Cruz was one of the members who drove that shutdown against the wills of the GOP. GOP leadership like McConnell knew, along with everyone else, that a government shutdown would not succeed in forcing the repeal of Obamacare. Cruz and other Senators loved by the Tea Party though didnt care, and managed to drive the government to shut down by forcing the GOP to either side with them or appear to betray their own party regarding fighting Obamacare, which the GOP wasnt ready to risk. So Cruz forced them into a corner and agreed to play along since they couldnt risk looking content with Obamacare.

Unfortunately the shutdown not only didnt accomplish the goal they knew it wouldnt achieve, it also made the GOP look like the poster children of being the party of obstructionism, which really hurt their ratings. Ted Cruz and other tea party senators essentially hijacked Congress and forced it to shutdown just for sh*ts and giggles, and he tried to do it again regarding funding to planned parenthood that luckily didnt pan out.

Cruz though does this not to try to accomplish anything, but to just hype up to his own voter base about how he is doing what the Tea Party faction of the party wants him to do, essentially selling out what little bipartisianship there is left in Congress and making the rest of the party look bad and incompetent just to boost his own approval ratings among voters..... Its the equivalent of political extortion that he pulled against his own party, which is why people hate him.
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3/3/2016 11:34:23 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

He stucks to his principles. He wants his vision of an ideal government at any cost and is unwilling to negotiate or compromise.
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3/3/2016 11:37:18 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/3/2016 2:12:35 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 3/3/2016 2:08:06 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 3/3/2016 2:03:44 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2016 11:54:11 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
I'm genuinely curious (so please, don't just hate) why the GOP/RNC don't like Cruz?

Because he is a psychopath who is willing to burn Washington to get his way. He governs like an insurgent. He lies more than anyone else in the beltway.

I see. I hear a lot of hate about him, but I was just curious in having someone explain why people/establishment hate him so much.

For these reasons.

You're also a special kind of person to fake being an evangelical to get votes.

They all fake that stuff. The reason Obama didn't know the absurd stuff his preacher was saying, is because he barely attended church, but he'd rather people think he sat thwir listening to that rubbish, than just admit he o ly goes, if its convenient. I remember 8 years ago, that the DNC even had a person teaching candidates how to fake being Christian.