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3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
"If you are White in America, you have no idea what it is like to live in the ghetto. NO idea what it is like to be poor. No idea what it is like to be harassed when you are walking down the street..."

The hell I don't. He has no idea what he is talking about. My brother and I looked at each other wide-eyed when we heard this idiocy. We lived in the ghetto in Memphis for 5 years. We almost ended up completely homeless three times. We were harassed and bullied by stupid, worthless thugs that deserve to rot in jail because we were White.

His entire discussion about race exudes ignorance. Take it from a White kid who has experienced every thing he said, and then some.

And, just from first-hand experience, blacks are by no means harassed by police, unless officers running their beat in their cars is harassment.

Bernie is going to provide education for poor black people. Guess what? The fvckers already have it, and they are disregarding it.

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life. They fail to get qualifications for jobs and then complain that they can't get one. They become criminals and then shout that they are being oppressed by the police because they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. How stupid. How worthless. And Socialism just helps feed that entitlement mind-set.

/End rant. So now I officially hate Bernie Sanders.
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3/7/2016 2:48:13 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
"If you are White in America, you have no idea what it is like to live in the ghetto. NO idea what it is like to be poor. No idea what it is like to be harassed when you are walking down the street..."

The hell I don't. He has no idea what he is talking about. My brother and I looked at each other wide-eyed when we heard this idiocy. We lived in the ghetto in Memphis for 5 years. We almost ended up completely homeless three times. We were harassed and bullied by stupid, worthless thugs that deserve to rot in jail because we were White.

His entire discussion about race exudes ignorance. Take it from a White kid who has experienced every thing he said, and then some.

And, just from first-hand experience, blacks are by no means harassed by police, unless officers running their beat in their cars is harassment.

Bernie is going to provide education for poor black people. Guess what? The fvckers already have it, and they are disregarding it.

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life. They fail to get qualifications for jobs and then complain that they can't get one. They become criminals and then shout that they are being oppressed by the police because they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. How stupid. How worthless. And Socialism just helps feed that entitlement mind-set.

/End rant. So now I officially hate Bernie Sanders.

The biggest ghetto in the US isn't in Detroit or Memphis. Its called Appalachia.
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3/7/2016 2:51:39 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 2:48:13 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
"If you are White in America, you have no idea what it is like to live in the ghetto. NO idea what it is like to be poor. No idea what it is like to be harassed when you are walking down the street..."

The hell I don't. He has no idea what he is talking about. My brother and I looked at each other wide-eyed when we heard this idiocy. We lived in the ghetto in Memphis for 5 years. We almost ended up completely homeless three times. We were harassed and bullied by stupid, worthless thugs that deserve to rot in jail because we were White.

His entire discussion about race exudes ignorance. Take it from a White kid who has experienced every thing he said, and then some.

And, just from first-hand experience, blacks are by no means harassed by police, unless officers running their beat in their cars is harassment.

Bernie is going to provide education for poor black people. Guess what? The fvckers already have it, and they are disregarding it.

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life. They fail to get qualifications for jobs and then complain that they can't get one. They become criminals and then shout that they are being oppressed by the police because they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. How stupid. How worthless. And Socialism just helps feed that entitlement mind-set.

/End rant. So now I officially hate Bernie Sanders.

The biggest ghetto in the US isn't in Detroit or Memphis. Its called Appalachia.

Yep. I live there, now. Lol. I moved from one ghetto to another.
Suh dude

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"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 2:56:54 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
"If you are White in America, you have no idea what it is like to live in the ghetto. NO idea what it is like to be poor. No idea what it is like to be harassed when you are walking down the street..."

The hell I don't. He has no idea what he is talking about. My brother and I looked at each other wide-eyed when we heard this idiocy. We lived in the ghetto in Memphis for 5 years. We almost ended up completely homeless three times. We were harassed and bullied by stupid, worthless thugs that deserve to rot in jail because we were White.

His entire discussion about race exudes ignorance. Take it from a White kid who has experienced every thing he said, and then some.

And, just from first-hand experience, blacks are by no means harassed by police, unless officers running their beat in their cars is harassment.

Bernie is going to provide education for poor black people. Guess what? The fvckers already have it, and they are disregarding it.

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life. They fail to get qualifications for jobs and then complain that they can't get one. They become criminals and then shout that they are being oppressed by the police because they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. How stupid. How worthless. And Socialism just helps feed that entitlement mind-set.

/End rant. So now I officially hate Bernie Sanders.

+1

If only so many leftists that support counter-racist measures such as affirmative action, would understand that non-blacks can live in ghettos.
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3/7/2016 3:01:59 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 2:56:54 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
"If you are White in America, you have no idea what it is like to live in the ghetto. NO idea what it is like to be poor. No idea what it is like to be harassed when you are walking down the street..."

The hell I don't. He has no idea what he is talking about. My brother and I looked at each other wide-eyed when we heard this idiocy. We lived in the ghetto in Memphis for 5 years. We almost ended up completely homeless three times. We were harassed and bullied by stupid, worthless thugs that deserve to rot in jail because we were White.

His entire discussion about race exudes ignorance. Take it from a White kid who has experienced every thing he said, and then some.

And, just from first-hand experience, blacks are by no means harassed by police, unless officers running their beat in their cars is harassment.

Bernie is going to provide education for poor black people. Guess what? The fvckers already have it, and they are disregarding it.

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life. They fail to get qualifications for jobs and then complain that they can't get one. They become criminals and then shout that they are being oppressed by the police because they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. How stupid. How worthless. And Socialism just helps feed that entitlement mind-set.

/End rant. So now I officially hate Bernie Sanders.

+1

If only so many leftists that support counter-racist measures such as affirmative action, would understand that non-blacks can live in ghettos.

Yeah, and if only they would understand that blacks already have the same opportunities as whites when it comes to education and obtainment of qualifications, but the majority refuse it. There is no racial discrimination here. It is the by-product of the effort or lack thereof put in by the individual. Less minorities have jobs because they refuse the opportunities before them, and have a your-great-great-grandpa-owned-my-great-great-grandpa-so-you-owe-me-everything mentality.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 3:16:23 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life.

I love a good sh*tting on Bernie Sanders more than anyone else, but I wanna emphasize that what you see in the Appalachian region doesnt mean the same is true in other parts of the US..... Down here in Miami all races are pretty much the same even though we all choose to live lives of debauchery since thats what you do in the cesspool of filth that is Miami Florida.
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3/7/2016 3:23:41 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 3:16:23 AM, imabench wrote:
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life.

I love a good sh*tting on Bernie Sanders more than anyone else, but I wanna emphasize that what you see in the Appalachian region doesnt mean the same is true in other parts of the US..... Down here in Miami all races are pretty much the same even though we all choose to live lives of debauchery since thats what you do in the cesspool of filth that is Miami Florida.

I am not talking about Appalachia. This is coming from 15-1/2 years in Memphis. Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, and New Orleans are also like this. I live in Appalachia now, and it is different, but it is still all the same. There is an abundance of poor people here, most of which happen to be white, but that is beside the point I am making here. You even say that all races are the same, which indicates that the "oppression" many of the minorities claim are happening to them is by their own doing. They are not being racially oppressed, even though it would seem so, but is because of their choices, which happens to reflect the majority of those minorities. It has nothing to do with race like Bernie is saying it does.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 3:26:03 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 2:58:26 AM, Torton wrote:
Source?

Dude, is this BS? I am speaking from first-hand experience here. I lived the life of the supposed "oppressed minority." What Bernie is saying is complete idiocy.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 3:30:36 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 3:26:03 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 2:58:26 AM, Torton wrote:
Source?

Dude, is this BS? I am speaking from first-hand experience here. I lived the life of the supposed "oppressed minority." What Bernie is saying is complete idiocy.
No, not your personal experience, a source for the Sanders quote. lol
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3/7/2016 3:35:18 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 3:30:36 AM, Torton wrote:
At 3/7/2016 3:26:03 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 2:58:26 AM, Torton wrote:
Source?

Dude, is this BS? I am speaking from first-hand experience here. I lived the life of the supposed "oppressed minority." What Bernie is saying is complete idiocy.
No, not your personal experience, a source for the Sanders quote. lol

He had just said it in the Democratic Presidential Debate. But I found one: http://www.latimes.com...

I didn't have it verbatim, but it was close.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 3:58:18 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
"If you are White in America, you have no idea what it is like to live in the ghetto. NO idea what it is like to be poor. No idea what it is like to be harassed when you are walking down the street..."

The hell I don't. He has no idea what he is talking about. My brother and I looked at each other wide-eyed when we heard this idiocy. We lived in the ghetto in Memphis for 5 years. We almost ended up completely homeless three times. We were harassed and bullied by stupid, worthless thugs that deserve to rot in jail because we were White.

His entire discussion about race exudes ignorance. Take it from a White kid who has experienced every thing he said, and then some.

And, just from first-hand experience, blacks are by no means harassed by police, unless officers running their beat in their cars is harassment.

Bernie is going to provide education for poor black people. Guess what? The fvckers already have it, and they are disregarding it.

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life. They fail to get qualifications for jobs and then complain that they can't get one. They become criminals and then shout that they are being oppressed by the police because they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. How stupid. How worthless. And Socialism just helps feed that entitlement mind-set.

/End rant. So now I officially hate Bernie Sanders.

Prolly lived in Bartlett
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3/7/2016 4:12:27 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 3:58:18 AM, Death23 wrote:
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
"If you are White in America, you have no idea what it is like to live in the ghetto. NO idea what it is like to be poor. No idea what it is like to be harassed when you are walking down the street..."

The hell I don't. He has no idea what he is talking about. My brother and I looked at each other wide-eyed when we heard this idiocy. We lived in the ghetto in Memphis for 5 years. We almost ended up completely homeless three times. We were harassed and bullied by stupid, worthless thugs that deserve to rot in jail because we were White.

His entire discussion about race exudes ignorance. Take it from a White kid who has experienced every thing he said, and then some.

And, just from first-hand experience, blacks are by no means harassed by police, unless officers running their beat in their cars is harassment.

Bernie is going to provide education for poor black people. Guess what? The fvckers already have it, and they are disregarding it.

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life. They fail to get qualifications for jobs and then complain that they can't get one. They become criminals and then shout that they are being oppressed by the police because they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. How stupid. How worthless. And Socialism just helps feed that entitlement mind-set.

/End rant. So now I officially hate Bernie Sanders.

Prolly lived in Bartlett

Nope. You are familiar with the area?
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 4:17:07 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:12:27 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 3:58:18 AM, Death23 wrote:
At 3/7/2016 2:35:15 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
"If you are White in America, you have no idea what it is like to live in the ghetto. NO idea what it is like to be poor. No idea what it is like to be harassed when you are walking down the street..."

The hell I don't. He has no idea what he is talking about. My brother and I looked at each other wide-eyed when we heard this idiocy. We lived in the ghetto in Memphis for 5 years. We almost ended up completely homeless three times. We were harassed and bullied by stupid, worthless thugs that deserve to rot in jail because we were White.

His entire discussion about race exudes ignorance. Take it from a White kid who has experienced every thing he said, and then some.

And, just from first-hand experience, blacks are by no means harassed by police, unless officers running their beat in their cars is harassment.

Bernie is going to provide education for poor black people. Guess what? The fvckers already have it, and they are disregarding it.

Just from what I have seen, the reason a lot of minorities do not have as many jobs as white people is because they completely forfeit the education provided to them and trade it for the thug life. They fail to get qualifications for jobs and then complain that they can't get one. They become criminals and then shout that they are being oppressed by the police because they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. How stupid. How worthless. And Socialism just helps feed that entitlement mind-set.

/End rant. So now I officially hate Bernie Sanders.

Prolly lived in Bartlett

Nope. You are familiar with the area?

Yes
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3/7/2016 4:19:30 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:17:07 AM, Death23 wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:12:27 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 3:58:18 AM, Death23 wrote:
Prolly lived in Bartlett

Nope. You are familiar with the area?

Yes

Interesting. You are the third person on this site that I have met who knows at least a little about Memphis.
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"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 4:20:10 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
@Voice

I'm sorry to hear about that life mate. What Sanders said is ignorant to you and others, and In sorry to hear that man.

But it is not true that all African Americans throw away their opportunities. And it is not true to say that they are given equal opportunities.
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3/7/2016 4:26:10 AM
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What Sanders said was wrong and stupid, but that doesn't make him an idiot.
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3/7/2016 4:28:37 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:20:10 AM, Hayd wrote:
@Voice

I'm sorry to hear about that life mate. What Sanders said is ignorant to you and others, and In sorry to hear that man.

But it is not true that all African Americans throw away their opportunities. And it is not true to say that they are given equal opportunities.

Thanks for the sympathy, but that really wasn't what I was seeking, lol.

The issue here is his majorly contorted view of supposed racism and oppression. I am not saying that it is all African Americans (or let alone minorities). I am saying a rather significant number of them. Seeing this throwing away of opportunity first-hand says a lot, and so does talking with people from other American cities that see it everyday in large quantities. It is upsetting. It is a sense of entitlement that has developed in minority communities that leads to this. They think they deserve everything simply because they are minorities. This is a big reason as to why I am for the total abolition of welfare, stricter prisons/punishment/death penalty, and am so strongly against affirmative action.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 4:31:50 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
Yeah, you are right, Harder. What makes him an idiot is that he thinks his economic policies will actually work...
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"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 4:37:32 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:26:10 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
What Sanders said was wrong and stupid, but that doesn't make him an idiot.

I know. I was ranting.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 4:38:39 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
One could also say this about Trump:

At 3/7/2016 4:26:10 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
What Sanders said was wrong and stupid, but that doesn't make him an idiot.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 4:41:31 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:28:37 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:20:10 AM, Hayd wrote:
@Voice

I'm sorry to hear about that life mate. What Sanders said is ignorant to you and others, and In sorry to hear that man.

But it is not true that all African Americans throw away their opportunities. And it is not true to say that they are given equal opportunities.

Thanks for the sympathy, but that really wasn't what I was seeking, lol.

The issue here is his majorly contorted view of supposed racism and oppression. I am not saying that it is all African Americans (or let alone minorities). I am saying a rather significant number of them. Seeing this throwing away of opportunity first-hand says a lot, and so does talking with people from other American cities that see it everyday in large quantities. It is upsetting. It is a sense of entitlement that has developed in minority communities that leads to this. They think they deserve everything simply because they are minorities. This is a big reason as to why I am for the total abolition of welfare, stricter prisons/punishment/death penalty, and am so strongly against affirmative action.

You're not seeing the forest for the trees.
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3/7/2016 4:45:12 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:41:31 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:28:37 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:20:10 AM, Hayd wrote:
@Voice

I'm sorry to hear about that life mate. What Sanders said is ignorant to you and others, and In sorry to hear that man.

But it is not true that all African Americans throw away their opportunities. And it is not true to say that they are given equal opportunities.

Thanks for the sympathy, but that really wasn't what I was seeking, lol.

The issue here is his majorly contorted view of supposed racism and oppression. I am not saying that it is all African Americans (or let alone minorities). I am saying a rather significant number of them. Seeing this throwing away of opportunity first-hand says a lot, and so does talking with people from other American cities that see it everyday in large quantities. It is upsetting. It is a sense of entitlement that has developed in minority communities that leads to this. They think they deserve everything simply because they are minorities. This is a big reason as to why I am for the total abolition of welfare, stricter prisons/punishment/death penalty, and am so strongly against affirmative action.

You're not seeing the forest for the trees.

No. I feel like I am seeing the problem. There isn't near as much racism/oppression in minority communities as they claim. This is simply the effects of entitlement.
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3/7/2016 4:50:32 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:45:12 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:41:31 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:28:37 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:20:10 AM, Hayd wrote:
@Voice

I'm sorry to hear about that life mate. What Sanders said is ignorant to you and others, and In sorry to hear that man.

But it is not true that all African Americans throw away their opportunities. And it is not true to say that they are given equal opportunities.

Thanks for the sympathy, but that really wasn't what I was seeking, lol.

The issue here is his majorly contorted view of supposed racism and oppression. I am not saying that it is all African Americans (or let alone minorities). I am saying a rather significant number of them. Seeing this throwing away of opportunity first-hand says a lot, and so does talking with people from other American cities that see it everyday in large quantities. It is upsetting. It is a sense of entitlement that has developed in minority communities that leads to this. They think they deserve everything simply because they are minorities. This is a big reason as to why I am for the total abolition of welfare, stricter prisons/punishment/death penalty, and am so strongly against affirmative action.

You're not seeing the forest for the trees.

No. I feel like I am seeing the problem. There isn't near as much racism/oppression in minority communities as they claim. This is simply the effects of entitlement.

We can talk about pure stats, and it shows that being "tough on crime" leads to higher incarceration, which leads to higher recidivism due to senseless institutionalization - see the War on Drugs and the Clinton crime bill for that. Or we can show the state of inner city, black majority schools - and how underfunded they are - see all of the Philly school closings and just a single picture of a Detroit school. The only entitlement they need is for the same opportunity, which you are falsely (and it is outright false) claiming they have.
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3/7/2016 4:55:02 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:26:10 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
What Sanders said was wrong and stupid, but that doesn't make him an idiot.

^This
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3/7/2016 5:09:28 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:50:32 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:45:12 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:41:31 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:28:37 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:20:10 AM, Hayd wrote:
@Voice

I'm sorry to hear about that life mate. What Sanders said is ignorant to you and others, and In sorry to hear that man.

But it is not true that all African Americans throw away their opportunities. And it is not true to say that they are given equal opportunities.

Thanks for the sympathy, but that really wasn't what I was seeking, lol.

The issue here is his majorly contorted view of supposed racism and oppression. I am not saying that it is all African Americans (or let alone minorities). I am saying a rather significant number of them. Seeing this throwing away of opportunity first-hand says a lot, and so does talking with people from other American cities that see it everyday in large quantities. It is upsetting. It is a sense of entitlement that has developed in minority communities that leads to this. They think they deserve everything simply because they are minorities. This is a big reason as to why I am for the total abolition of welfare, stricter prisons/punishment/death penalty, and am so strongly against affirmative action.

You're not seeing the forest for the trees.

No. I feel like I am seeing the problem. There isn't near as much racism/oppression in minority communities as they claim. This is simply the effects of entitlement.

We can talk about pure stats, and it shows that being "tough on crime" leads to higher incarceration, which leads to higher recidivism due to senseless institutionalization - see the War on Drugs and the Clinton crime bill for that. Or we can show the state of inner city, black majority schools - and how underfunded they are - see all of the Philly school closings and just a single picture of a Detroit school. The only entitlement they need is for the same opportunity, which you are falsely (and it is outright false) claiming they have.

It leads to a higher incarceration rate because minorities commit more crimes. Simple as that. I have seen it personally, and have fallen victim to several such crimes.

Over my school career, I have attended 3 black-majority schools. Were they underfunded? No. Absolutely not. They were just full of thug idiots who wanted to be like their daddy and be a criminal. That is the root problem. They don't care about their education, and then they gripe at how horrible their life is and how whitey has it all.

They have entitlement. You are in no position to claim otherwise. I cannot tell you how many times I have had kids demand something from me, whether it be my lunch or make me do homework for them. I would say that I didn't have to do it, and they would say one of 2 things, or both: 1) I'm black and you are white and you have privilege; and/or 2) Your granddaddy owned my granddaddy, so you owe me (albeit in a much less educated fashion).

They have the same opportunities as I have had. I am top of my class. Why? Because I was given the same material that every single minority student was given, and I did what every normal student ought to do and pass. They didn't care. They had the same opportunities, same lessons, same work, same instructions, same chances to pass, and then were provided with second and third and fourth chances to make up for their incomplete work, but they chose not to pursue these opportunities. It is their choice. The racial factor is still there, but that is mostly due to the fact that this trend is found more prominently certain minority races.
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"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 5:10:05 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 4:55:02 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 3/7/2016 4:26:10 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
What Sanders said was wrong and stupid, but that doesn't make him an idiot.

^This

-_-

I was ranting...
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/7/2016 5:13:03 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
*counters stats indicating broad general trends with anecdotal experience*

Ok.
At 10/3/2016 11:49:13 PM, thett3 wrote:
BLACK LIVES MATTER!
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3/7/2016 5:22:03 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
I hail from a pretty small town in northwest New Jersey. The majority are working to lower-middle class, with a couple upper middle class households that frankly look completely out of place. The town votes 60+ percent Republican on average in elections. I think the per capita income hovers around $30,000 - and I believe that is going down as the wealthier few get the hell out of the town.

The claim that lower-income areas are not underfunded is wrong. Reality and facts do not agree. I'm from a white majority (over 95%) town, and my schools has been steadily decreasing in overall budget level. We've cut teachers, we might close a school, and we might have to rent off a section of the high school to the county's community college to help make up for losses. Do you think the students are doing great? The difference in exam proficiency between economically disadvantaged and non-disadventaged students is worse than -10%. Our test scores are inflated somewhat - despite the fact they aren't great to start - because so many people drop out. 12% of students drop out vs 6% statewide. They had no hope for a reason.

It's not black kids who are just worse off because they are black, it's poor kids for their situation.
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3/7/2016 6:49:15 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/7/2016 5:22:03 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I hail from a pretty small town in northwest New Jersey. The majority are working to lower-middle class, with a couple upper middle class households that frankly look completely out of place. The town votes 60+ percent Republican on average in elections. I think the per capita income hovers around $30,000 - and I believe that is going down as the wealthier few get the hell out of the town.

The claim that lower-income areas are not underfunded is wrong. Reality and facts do not agree. I'm from a white majority (over 95%) town, and my schools has been steadily decreasing in overall budget level. We've cut teachers, we might close a school, and we might have to rent off a section of the high school to the county's community college to help make up for losses. Do you think the students are doing great? The difference in exam proficiency between economically disadvantaged and non-disadventaged students is worse than -10%. Our test scores are inflated somewhat - despite the fact they aren't great to start - because so many people drop out. 12% of students drop out vs 6% statewide. They had no hope for a reason.

It's not black kids who are just worse off because they are black, it's poor kids for their situation.

If you are any reflection of the education offered in New Jersey, I will take it.

I know and acknowledge your post, but...