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3/10/2016 10:12:05 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
This is really the last chance to stop Trump. Rubio is falling apart, and he will probably win Florida. They need to hurt his Ohio chances if they want a comeback.
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3/10/2016 11:15:40 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/10/2016 10:12:05 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is really the last chance to stop Trump. Rubio is falling apart, and he will probably win Florida. They need to hurt his Ohio chances if they want a comeback.

Rubio will not win FL. His political career is over, and this makes me smile.
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3/10/2016 11:19:06 PM
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At 3/10/2016 11:15:49 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/10/2016 11:10:29 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
centipede

Wut?

Despite its impressive length, it's a nimble navigator.
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3/10/2016 11:19:35 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/10/2016 11:15:40 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/10/2016 10:12:05 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is really the last chance to stop Trump. Rubio is falling apart, and he will probably win Florida. They need to hurt his Ohio chances if they want a comeback.

Rubio will not win FL. His political career is over, and this makes me smile.

He'll wind up somewhere else. He's rubio, not Jeb
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3/10/2016 11:21:42 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/10/2016 11:15:40 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/10/2016 10:12:05 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is really the last chance to stop Trump. Rubio is falling apart, and he will probably win Florida. They need to hurt his Ohio chances if they want a comeback.

Rubio will not win FL. His political career is over, and this makes me smile.

http://www.theonion.com...
http://www.theonion.com...
http://www.theonion.com...
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3/10/2016 11:22:04 PM
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At 3/10/2016 11:19:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/10/2016 11:15:40 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/10/2016 10:12:05 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is really the last chance to stop Trump. Rubio is falling apart, and he will probably win Florida. They need to hurt his Ohio chances if they want a comeback.

Rubio will not win FL. His political career is over, and this makes me smile.

He'll wind up somewhere else. He's rubio, not Jeb

He won't be in the Senate.
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3/10/2016 11:24:41 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
My thoughts before the debate:

No matter what happens tonight, the issue now is Trump's inevitability and the question is whether Ted Cruz will find some way to distort, degrade, etc. Trump's momentum.

There are some ways that could happen.... Trump can be provoked, and we know that because he has been provoked in the past. However, what I expect Cruz to do is make the critical mistake of saying that Trump is an "insider," as he has been doing for some time now. This makes Cruz not only look disingenuous, but incompetent. It's a weak attack.

But the reality is that Trump excels where all the other candidate's fail; he is very comfortable with the reality-TV like atmosphere that the current Republican primary has taken, and it is because he has rewritten the rules to play to that strength, I do not expect to see Cruz do anything to any degree of success tonight.

It would be especially interesting to see Cruz go the Marco Rubio route, and attack Trump like a complete child (e.g. schoolyard penis jokes). But I think Cruz correctly sees that a beneath him. But what's not going to happen is a debate of policy and substance, because even Cruz's supporters have no interest in policy or substance. If they did, they'd be voting for John Kasich.

Ironically, Trump's economic policies and foreign policy paradigms (soon, we'll be talking about the "Trump Doctrine") have been the most substantive aspect of the Republican primary, not to mention his discussion on immigration. While many--stupid--commenters will be quick to dismiss Trump's ideas as pedestrian, or unsophisticated, the reality is that economic protectionism (e.g. retaliatory tariffs) and quasi-isolationism were once the norm for the Republican party, before the 1960s.

So in reality, Trump represents more of what the GOP used to be (think early 20th century) than any other candidate, and in many respects he is the most "conservative" on the stage. I think most people don't really have enough of a sense of perspective to understand what the GOP was pre-Goldwater.... but the pre-Goldwater GOP is really what Trump embodies.
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3/10/2016 11:26:58 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
A recent national NBC/WSJ poll put Kasich in 3rd over Rubio.
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3/10/2016 11:31:26 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/10/2016 11:19:35 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/10/2016 11:15:40 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/10/2016 10:12:05 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is really the last chance to stop Trump. Rubio is falling apart, and he will probably win Florida. They need to hurt his Ohio chances if they want a comeback.

Rubio will not win FL. His political career is over, and this makes me smile.

He'll wind up somewhere else. He's rubio, not Jeb

That would surprise me, and this is why:

Rubio's entire career was centralized on him being the president of the United States. He was the Establishment's pawn; their "bitch" for the purpose of controlling. His entire political life, he did what they said and they got him elected.

But Rubio, more than anything else, represents the death of the Establishment's kingmaker's policies--and that death has come both because of Marco Rubio's disastrous lack of political acumen (e.g. the repetition moment in response to Chris Christie), as much as the Establishment's fundamental stupidity with respect to how the base thinks (i.e. trying to trick latinos into voting for the Republican party by getting a good looking Cuban as their show dog).

Trump has exposed that horsesh!t for what it is, and it's a method that will never work again. It is for that reason that when this election is over, Rubio will be a pariah. He might get a book deal or something. Maybe a show on FOX business. But in terms of his political career? He's done. He will never be governor of Florida. He is not even on the ballot to be reelected to the senate. He's done. Over. Fin. And it's about fvcking time.

The reality is that Marco Rubio is a blood traitor; he's the establishment's rent boy (not that I have a moral problem with actual rent boys, but I do have a problem with political whores) who more than any before him categorically failed to woo either the base or Latino voters. All of these things, of course, occurred contemporaneously with him becoming enriched by the for-profit-prison lobby that only came into existence because of the 1990s crime bill that Bill Clinton signed into law and Hillary Clinton supported.

But I digress...
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3/10/2016 11:31:37 PM
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I think the RNC should just endorse Trump if they want to kill him. Nobody the establishment has gotten behind has lasted very long.
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3/10/2016 11:32:14 PM
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At 3/10/2016 11:21:42 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 3/10/2016 11:15:40 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/10/2016 10:12:05 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is really the last chance to stop Trump. Rubio is falling apart, and he will probably win Florida. They need to hurt his Ohio chances if they want a comeback.

Rubio will not win FL. His political career is over, and this makes me smile.

http://www.theonion.com...
http://www.theonion.com...
http://www.theonion.com...

AHAHAHAHAH
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3/10/2016 11:33:49 PM
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At 3/10/2016 11:31:37 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I think the RNC should just endorse Trump if they want to kill him. Nobody the establishment has gotten behind has lasted very long.

That might have worked if Mitt Romney didn't have his "look at how stupid all of you are" moment.
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3/10/2016 11:54:09 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Trump triumph '16
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3/11/2016 1:30:43 AM
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Make us proud Donald
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3/11/2016 1:59:09 AM
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WHY lS HUGH HEWITT DOING THESE
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3/11/2016 2:01:34 AM
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The way Cruz is balding is weird.
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3/11/2016 2:07:38 AM
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Rubio had a great answer to that
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3/11/2016 2:10:10 AM
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lol at everybody taking Trumps talking points on trade and immigration
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3/11/2016 2:10:11 AM
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Rubio looks a lot different with that haircut.
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3/11/2016 2:10:30 AM
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At 3/11/2016 2:10:10 AM, thett3 wrote:
lol at everybody taking Trumps talking points on trade and immigration

Ikr
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3/11/2016 2:12:16 AM
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Rubio's skin also looks unnatural to me.
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3/11/2016 2:16:22 AM
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Cruz speech guide:

"We will end..."
"We will abolish..."
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3/11/2016 2:19:35 AM
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So....can anyone tell me why, when I try to watch the debate on CNN's website, their link takes me to their own live commentary instead of a feed where I can watch the actual debate?
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3/11/2016 2:20:02 AM
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20 minutes and no insults yet....this has to be a record
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3/11/2016 2:20:47 AM
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At 3/11/2016 2:20:02 AM, thett3 wrote:
20 minutes and no insults yet....this has to be a record

Just wait...
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3/11/2016 2:21:13 AM
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At 3/11/2016 2:16:22 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Cruz speech guide:

"We will end..."
"We will abolish..."

This is the truest post I've ever made.
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