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3/11/2016 11:07:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
If you go into a political rally, and you protest, and the people who are there at that rally rough you up a bit, it's your fault for putting yourself in that position.
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3/12/2016 12:07:47 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/11/2016 11:07:53 PM, YYW wrote:
If you go into a political rally, and you protest, and the people who are there at that rally rough you up a bit, it's your fault for putting yourself in that position.

I don't think the law would agree; assault is assault. Moreover, the obligation should be on the person committing the violent act to withhold from doing so.
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3/12/2016 12:14:41 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/11/2016 11:07:53 PM, YYW wrote:
If you go into a political rally, and you protest, and the people who are there at that rally rough you up a bit, it's your fault for putting yourself in that position.

You're going off the deep end.
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3/12/2016 12:24:22 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
There is a right to protest, and there is no right to beat the sh!t out of someone.
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3/12/2016 12:28:03 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:24:22 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There is a right to protest, and there is no right to beat the sh!t out of someone.

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3/12/2016 12:28:26 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
lol do you guys really take this seriously? Don't you have a threshold at which you stop dignifying the bilge that finds its way onto the internet?
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3/12/2016 12:34:59 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
When you protest a political rally, you put yourself at risk. You know that risk when you protest, and because you know that risk, it's your fault for putting yourself there.

Now, I don't condone violence and I've never said that people have a right to beat the sh!t out of other people... so don't suggest that I have. People who respond to political positions they disagree with, with violence, are generally not to be celebrated in any respect.

BUT... if you protest a political rally knowing that that's what's going to happen to you, it's your fault for putting yourself in that position.

Making a point is fine, but if you want to do it... hold your own damn rally.
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3/12/2016 12:35:30 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:28:26 AM, 000ike wrote:
lol do you guys really take this seriously? Don't you have a threshold at which you stop dignifying the bilge that finds its way onto the internet?

lol do you actually think that anyone takes you seriously?
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3/12/2016 12:36:23 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:28:03 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/12/2016 12:24:22 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There is a right to protest, and there is no right to beat the sh!t out of someone.

+1

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3/12/2016 12:37:13 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:09:32 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
The law can also say you are inciting a riot.

I don't think we could go that far. Inciting a riot is more like people running through the streets of Boston after the Sox won the world series and saying "Let's burn sh!t" while proceeding to do that.

Protesting, for example, a Trump rally, isn't starting a riot. But it is stupid, and it disgraces whatever cause the protesters are supporting. Even the imagery of it is bad.
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3/12/2016 12:39:03 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:24:22 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There is a right to protest, and there is no right to beat the sh!t out of someone.

I never said there was, in the event that was lost on anyone. And of course people have the right to protest; no one is saying otherwise. But of course that's what people are going to make this discussion into... one of rights as opposed to one of wisdom.

Obviously there is a right to protest stuff, but just because you "can" do something doesn't mean that you "should" do that thing. And the response "well they have a right to do [x]" is not a rebuttal to the statement that "they shouldn't be doing that."
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3/12/2016 12:41:03 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:14:41 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 3/11/2016 11:07:53 PM, YYW wrote:
If you go into a political rally, and you protest, and the people who are there at that rally rough you up a bit, it's your fault for putting yourself in that position.

You're going off the deep end.

Hardly. I'm tired of journalists portraying protesters as victims. Protestors are not victims; by definition they are antagonists, provocateurs whose purpose it is to cause a conflict.

Maybe that's a conflict worth being caused... but they're still not victims.
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3/12/2016 12:43:30 AM
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And my real issue is the content bias of how we evaluate protesting. Protesting, across the board, is a stupid waste of time. Whether it's the Westboro Baptist Church, or #blacklivesmatter; their methods are the same. Well, actually that's not true. The Westboro Baptist Church never stormed the stages of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.

I am literally watching black "activists" incite a riot in Chicago, on CNN. Turn on the TV. It's worth watching.

These people are the reason why race relations are worse now than they have been in decades.
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3/12/2016 12:46:48 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:43:30 AM, YYW wrote:
And my real issue is the content bias of how we evaluate protesting. Protesting, across the board, is a stupid waste of time. Whether it's the Westboro Baptist Church, or #blacklivesmatter; their methods are the same. Well, actually that's not true. The Westboro Baptist Church never stormed the stages of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.

I am literally watching black "activists" incite a riot in Chicago, on CNN. Turn on the TV. It's worth watching.

This is disgusting, but everyone needs to watch this. It could get very bad.

Trumps poll numbers just went up 5 points

These people are the reason why race relations are worse now than they have been in decades.
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3/12/2016 12:48:41 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
If Trump had gone through with this rally, he probably would have been assassinated tonight
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3/12/2016 12:50:02 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:46:48 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/12/2016 12:43:30 AM, YYW wrote:
And my real issue is the content bias of how we evaluate protesting. Protesting, across the board, is a stupid waste of time. Whether it's the Westboro Baptist Church, or #blacklivesmatter; their methods are the same. Well, actually that's not true. The Westboro Baptist Church never stormed the stages of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.

I am literally watching black "activists" incite a riot in Chicago, on CNN. Turn on the TV. It's worth watching.

This is disgusting, but everyone needs to watch this. It could get very bad.

It's already bad. There are fist fights inside the arena. The police are struggling to keep things under control. They really can't do it...

Trumps poll numbers just went up 5 points

I wonder if this might turn into something like the Democratic Convention in 1968.

These people are the reason why race relations are worse now than they have been in decades.
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3/12/2016 12:50:17 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:48:41 AM, thett3 wrote:
If Trump had gone through with this rally, he probably would have been assassinated tonight

I wonder if that's why he cancelled.
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3/12/2016 12:51:20 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
The problem is that when things like this happen, Trump's numbers go up.... and more and more people become racists.

This is what stupid black and youthful social justice warriors do not understand.
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3/12/2016 12:51:53 AM
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At 3/12/2016 12:50:17 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/12/2016 12:48:41 AM, thett3 wrote:
If Trump had gone through with this rally, he probably would have been assassinated tonight

I wonder if that's why he cancelled.

This commentary on CNN is seriously irritating me
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3/12/2016 12:52:16 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Will CNN shut the fvck up about "what can Trump do to stop this?" please?

This is hardly Trump's fault. It's the protesters who are 100% culpable. What needs to happen is that he needs better security.
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3/12/2016 12:52:20 AM
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At 3/12/2016 12:51:20 AM, YYW wrote:
The problem is that when things like this happen, Trump's numbers go up.... and more and more people become racists.

This likely just won Trump the nomination


This is what stupid black and youthful social justice warriors do not understand.
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3/12/2016 12:52:28 AM
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People need to learn how to control themselves. There is no excuse for hurting others, you can easily use self control. You have a choice.
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3/12/2016 12:52:49 AM
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At 3/12/2016 12:51:53 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/12/2016 12:50:17 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/12/2016 12:48:41 AM, thett3 wrote:
If Trump had gone through with this rally, he probably would have been assassinated tonight

I wonder if that's why he cancelled.

This commentary on CNN is seriously irritating me

They're pathetic. They're doing everything they can to blame Trump for this, when so obviously it is the stupid social justice warriors who caused the riot that are to blame.
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3/12/2016 12:53:28 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:52:20 AM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/12/2016 12:51:20 AM, YYW wrote:
The problem is that when things like this happen, Trump's numbers go up.... and more and more people become racists.

This likely just won Trump the nomination

I think so. I wonder if he anticipated this. It's unlikely though... he probably assumed security would be better.

This is what stupid black and youthful social justice warriors do not understand.
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3/12/2016 12:53:46 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/12/2016 12:52:28 AM, Rosalie wrote:
People need to learn how to control themselves. There is no excuse for hurting others, you can easily use self control. You have a choice.

They really put the "war" in "social justice warrior."
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3/12/2016 12:58:48 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
So how many millions of votes did Trump gain just from people wanting to spite these losers?

I wish I could vote again /:
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