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3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.
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3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/14/2016 9:25:10 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 9:21:32 PM, Torton wrote:
Better him than Cruz.

I challenge you to come up with a list of quotes by him that come close to this
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3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance
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3/14/2016 9:28:03 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
You really should source these.

"I could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn"t lose voters"
Reminds me of the time one of the Beatles said they were "bigger than Jesus". The responses were pretty similar too.

"I"d like to punch him in the face"
"I miss the old days where they"d carry them out in a stretcher"
Missed the part where either involved telling others to commit violence.

"If you see a man with a tomato, punch him in the face. I"ll pay your legal fees."
The actual quote:
"Just knock the hell " I promise you, I'll pay the legal fees."
Which may have been in jest, given his response a few months later.

"If I were to run as president, I"d run as a Republican. They are the dumbest group of voters in the country.They love anything on fox news.I could lie and they"d eat it up. My numbers would be terrific."
False: http://www.snopes.com...

"Laziness is a trait in blacks
False again, see here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com...

"When Mexico sends it's people, they aren't sending their best. They are sending people with problems, and they"re bringing their problems to us. They're sending rapists, drugs, crime...and some of those are probably good people"
Mexicans are a race now?

"Sadly because Obama has done such a bad job, we won"t see another black president for generations"
"Our great African-American President hasn"t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore."
How are these even ostensibly racist?

"The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day."
Sounds like a joke. Not sure what the big deal is.

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese to make US manufacturing non-competitive"
No, OP. China is not, in fact, a race.

"She has a nice figure. If she were not my daughter, I would probably date her"
Gross? Maybe. Why "sexist"?

"Look at that face! Who would vote for that? Can you imagine that being the face of our president?"
Not the only other candidate he attacked based on their appearance.

"You know, it really doesn"t matter what the media write as long as you"ve got a young and beautiful piece of a**."

"Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man - he made a good decision"

"All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me " consciously or unconsciously. That"s to be expected."

"I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I"m more honest and my women are more beautiful."
Problem being?

"The American dream is dead"
True or false, true or false, hmm.

"Politics is such a disgrace. No good people go into politics"
Don't think you'll find many Americans that disagree.

"We have losers, people that don"t have it"
"I would like to spend my best wishes to all, even the haters and losers, on this special day, September 11th."
Problem being?

"I just don"t feel good about it. I don"t feel right about it. And I take a lot of heat because I come from New York"
"It"s like in golf.A lot of people " I don"t want this to sound trivial " but a lot of people are switching to these really long putters, very unattractive. It"s weird. You see these great players with these really long putters, because they can"t sink three-footers anymore. And, I hate it. I am a traditionalist. I have so many fabulous friends who happen to be gay, but I am a traditionalist."

.. okay. Why does this matter so much?

they are all real quotes and you can look them up if you want, see if I"m right.
They weren't. None of the big (that is, non-tedious) ones that is.

Boring. Some real arguments would be far more appreciated.
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3/14/2016 9:29:35 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Also - not one quote on Muslims? Come on. Talk about false advertising.
Ego sum qui sum. Deus lo vult.

"America is ungovernable; those who served the revolution have plowed the sea." - Simon Bolivar

"A healthy nation is as unconscious of its nationality as a healthy man of his bones. But if you break a nation's nationality it will think of nothing else but getting it set again." - George Bernard Shaw
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3/14/2016 9:37:40 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

The "sexist" quotes aren't really sexist. For the first one, yes that was creepy, but he was just stating that she is very attractive (and he has a point). Secondly, many candidates insult each other's appearances. Just because he insults Hillary's appearance does not mean he's "sexist", considering for example he took jabs at Rand Paul's appearance (https://www.youtube.com...). Does that make him sexist against men? No. For the third one, he certainly has a point. Media is highly sexualized and "attractive" reporters are much more paid attention to than the more qualified, "unattractive" ones. Fourth, that's just an interpersonal conflict with someone who happens to be female. That does not make him sexist. Fifth, he's either being arrogant or, depending on the context, he's referring to how certain women try to "flirt" with him to get a higher chances of progressing, which is unfortunately true. Sixth, there is really nothing sexist about that. He's just complimenting his daughters and wife.
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3/14/2016 9:57:12 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 9:28:03 PM, someloser wrote:
You really should source these.

"I could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn"t lose voters"
Reminds me of the time one of the Beatles said they were "bigger than Jesus". The responses were pretty similar too.

"I"d like to punch him in the face"
"I miss the old days where they"d carry them out in a stretcher"
Missed the part where either involved telling others to commit violence.

Implies that he wants them beat up by his supporters
"If you see a man with a tomato, punch him in the face. I"ll pay your legal fees."
The actual quote:
"Just knock the hell " I promise you, I'll pay the legal fees."
Which may have been in jest, given his response a few months later.

Seems close enough
"If I were to run as president, I"d run as a Republican. They are the dumbest group of voters in the country.They love anything on fox news.I could lie and they"d eat it up. My numbers would be terrific."
False: http://www.snopes.com...

"Laziness is a trait in blacks
False again, see here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com...

"When Mexico sends it's people, they aren't sending their best. They are sending people with problems, and they"re bringing their problems to us. They're sending rapists, drugs, crime...and some of those are probably good people"
Mexicans are a race now?

Nationality
"Sadly because Obama has done such a bad job, we won"t see another black president for generations"
"Our great African-American President hasn"t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore."
How are these even ostensibly racist?

It implies Obama is worthless
"The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day."
Sounds like a joke. Not sure what the big deal is.

Whatever you say
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese to make US manufacturing non-competitive"
No, OP. China is not, in fact, a race.

Nationality/country
"She has a nice figure. If she were not my daughter, I would probably date her"
Gross? Maybe. Why "sexist"?

Makes women seem like objects to be dated
"Look at that face! Who would vote for that? Can you imagine that being the face of our president?"
Not the only other candidate he attacked based on their appearance.

But the easiest to use
"You know, it really doesn"t matter what the media write as long as you"ve got a young and beautiful piece of a**."

"Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man - he made a good decision"

"All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me " consciously or unconsciously. That"s to be expected."

"I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I"m more honest and my women are more beautiful."
Problem being?

Sexist, implies that women are objects to be owned
"The American dream is dead"
True or false, true or false, hmm.

Is it dead? or are there still success stories?
"Politics is such a disgrace. No good people go into politics"
Don't think you'll find many Americans that disagree.

TRUMP is in politics
"We have losers, people that don"t have it"
"I would like to spend my best wishes to all, even the haters and losers, on this special day, September 11th."
Problem being?

Makes light of 9/11
"I just don"t feel good about it. I don"t feel right about it. And I take a lot of heat because I come from New York"
"It"s like in golf.A lot of people " I don"t want this to sound trivial " but a lot of people are switching to these really long putters, very unattractive. It"s weird. You see these great players with these really long putters, because they can"t sink three-footers anymore. And, I hate it. I am a traditionalist. I have so many fabulous friends who happen to be gay, but I am a traditionalist."

.. okay. Why does this matter so much?

Insults gays, says it's immoral
they are all real quotes and you can look them up if you want, see if I"m right.
They weren't. None of the big (that is, non-tedious) ones that is.

Boring. Some real arguments would be far more appreciated.

And some common sense would be appreciated, worthless Trump Supporter
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3/14/2016 10:11:27 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

You have converted me. Where do I go to don my Anti-Trump hood?
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3/14/2016 10:12:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 9:37:40 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

The "sexist" quotes aren't really sexist. For the first one, yes that was creepy, but he was just stating that she is very attractive (and he has a point). Secondly, many candidates insult each other's appearances. Just because he insults Hillary's appearance does not mean he's "sexist", considering for example he took jabs at Rand Paul's appearance (https://www.youtube.com...). Does that make him sexist against men? No. For the third one, he certainly has a point. Media is highly sexualized and "attractive" reporters are much more paid attention to than the more qualified, "unattractive" ones. Fourth, that's just an interpersonal conflict with someone who happens to be female. That does not make him sexist. Fifth, he's either being arrogant or, depending on the context, he's referring to how certain women try to "flirt" with him to get a higher chances of progressing, which is unfortunately true. Sixth, there is really nothing sexist about that. He's just complimenting his daughters and wife.
Wrong person, Florina. I didn't include any Clinton quotes. He views women as only good based on looks. And even if all those are struck down, it still stands that those quptes are real
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3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance

Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

"If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death."

Christians will claim that this commandment no longer applies because it is in the Old Testament, though they will also claim that God never changes. Also, they will conveniently forget Matthew 5:18, where Jesus says:

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

If Jesus believed in this law and declared that it was not to be abolished, then why don"t modern Christians obey it?

It is sexist.

In 1 Timothy 2:11-12, we read:

Women should learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

Corinthians 14:34-35:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/14/2016 10:13:29 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:11:27 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

You have converted me. Where do I go to don my Anti-Trump hood?

Haha, very funny, your sarcasm is appriciated
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3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance

Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

"If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death."

Christians will claim that this commandment no longer applies because it is in the Old Testament, though they will also claim that God never changes. Also, they will conveniently forget Matthew 5:18, where Jesus says:

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

If Jesus believed in this law and declared that it was not to be abolished, then why don"t modern Christians obey it?

It is sexist.

In 1 Timothy 2:11-12, we read:

Women should learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

Corinthians 14:34-35:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse
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3/14/2016 10:24:50 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance

Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

"If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death."

Christians will claim that this commandment no longer applies because it is in the Old Testament, though they will also claim that God never changes. Also, they will conveniently forget Matthew 5:18, where Jesus says:

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

If Jesus believed in this law and declared that it was not to be abolished, then why don"t modern Christians obey it?

It is sexist.

In 1 Timothy 2:11-12, we read:

Women should learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

Corinthians 14:34-35:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse

Agree most Christians ignore the barbaric old testament. However do you not see it as hypocritical to criticise trump when your holy book contains views far more extreme then those held by trump? Whatever you say about the old testament if Christianity is the truth your god did at one time hold extremely violent, sexist and racist views. He is still homophobic and still regards women as lesser then men. As shown by Christianity opposing gay marriage and women obtaining positions in the priesthood.
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3/14/2016 10:29:30 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

>Old Covenant
Lol.

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

So are a lot of things Christians are very clearly not supposed to do. You're actively contradicting yourself.

At 3/14/2016 9:57:12 PM, TheChristian wrote:
Nationality
So it shouldn't be under "racist".

"Sadly because Obama has done such a bad job, we won"t see another black president for generations"
"Our great African-American President hasn"t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore."
How are these even ostensibly racist?

It implies Obama is worthless
No it doesn't. And, Obama isn't a race.

Whatever you say
But do go on about how this is such a pressing revelation.

No, OP. China is not, in fact, a race.

Nationality/country
So it shouldn't be under "racist". Again.

"She has a nice figure. If she were not my daughter, I would probably date her"
Gross? Maybe. Why "sexist"?

Makes women seem like objects to be dated
People don't date objects (most of us, at least). Try again.

Not the only other candidate he attacked based on their appearance.

But the easiest to use
If you want to make a misleading character attack, instead of something actually worth discussing, sure.

Sexist, implies that women are objects to be owned
No it doesn't. Please point to where it implies women are
1) objects
and
2) something to be owned

And you should explain why that is the clear and intended message of the quotes too.

Is it dead? or are there still success stories?
How is it anti-American?

TRUMP is in politics
It's really funny when you dispute your own point (within your own view of the situation too).

Makes light of 9/11

Oy vey. The horror. Automatic disqualification for Mr. Trump!

Insults gays, says it's immoral
No, he just said he's a traditionalist and it doesn't "feel right" (which makes sense).

And some common sense would be appreciated, worthless Trump Supporter
Wow, "Trump supporter". Such a devastating insult. Did you get that one from HuffPo too?
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3/14/2016 10:35:36 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:24:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance

Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

"If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death."

Christians will claim that this commandment no longer applies because it is in the Old Testament, though they will also claim that God never changes. Also, they will conveniently forget Matthew 5:18, where Jesus says:

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

If Jesus believed in this law and declared that it was not to be abolished, then why don"t modern Christians obey it?

It is sexist.

In 1 Timothy 2:11-12, we read:

Women should learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

Corinthians 14:34-35:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse

Agree most Christians ignore the barbaric old testament. However do you not see it as hypocritical to criticise trump when your holy book contains views far more extreme then those held by trump? Whatever you say about the old testament if Christianity is the truth your god did at one time hold extremely violent, sexist and racist views. He is still homophobic and still regards women as lesser then men. As shown by Christianity opposing gay marriage and women obtaining positions in the priesthood.

These views are not hypocritical because we don't say women are good for nothing but looks. We might keep them out of certain positions out of tradition and few Christian women complain about this. Gay marriage isn't in the bible per se, it is simply discouraged to have sex with the same gender, and if you look in the bible it never says loving gays will go to hell. Not in a single place, and I read the entire bible more than once. I spent 6 months studying the verses that were used by homophobes and I doubt you used more than a minute.
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3/14/2016 10:37:52 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:24:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM, TheChristian wrote:
The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse

Agree most Christians ignore the barbaric old testament. However do you not see it as hypocritical to criticise trump when your holy book contains views far more extreme then those held by trump?

Why does it matter? The Bible contains a number of things, many of which have little impact on what Christians believe today.

Whatever you say about the old testament if Christianity is the truth your god did at one time hold extremely violent, sexist and racist views.

Still waiting for the "racist" bit. Not sure what the problem is otherwise (if you're familiar with Christian moral axioms, you should know why).

He is still homophobic and still regards women as lesser then men. As shown by Christianity opposing gay marriage and women obtaining positions in the priesthood.

Nothing necessarily homophobic about the former. Latter isn't due to God supposedly regarding women as "lesser than men".
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3/14/2016 11:26:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:29:30 PM, someloser wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

>Old Covenant
Lol.

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

So are a lot of things Christians are very clearly not supposed to do. You're actively contradicting yourself.

At 3/14/2016 9:57:12 PM, TheChristian wrote:
Nationality
So it shouldn't be under "racist".

"Sadly because Obama has done such a bad job, we won"t see another black president for generations"
"Our great African-American President hasn"t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore."
How are these even ostensibly racist?

It implies Obama is worthless
No it doesn't. And, Obama isn't a race.

Whatever you say
But do go on about how this is such a pressing revelation.

No, OP. China is not, in fact, a race.

Nationality/country
So it shouldn't be under "racist". Again.

"She has a nice figure. If she were not my daughter, I would probably date her"
Gross? Maybe. Why "sexist"?

Makes women seem like objects to be dated
People don't date objects (most of us, at least). Try again.

Not the only other candidate he attacked based on their appearance.

But the easiest to use
If you want to make a misleading character attack, instead of something actually worth discussing, sure.

Sexist, implies that women are objects to be owned
No it doesn't. Please point to where it implies women are
1) objects
and
2) something to be owned

And you should explain why that is the clear and intended message of the quotes too.

Is it dead? or are there still success stories?
How is it anti-American?

TRUMP is in politics
It's really funny when you dispute your own point (within your own view of the situation too).

Makes light of 9/11

Oy vey. The horror. Automatic disqualification for Mr. Trump!

Insults gays, says it's immoral
No, he just said he's a traditionalist and it doesn't "feel right" (which makes sense).

And some common sense would be appreciated, worthless Trump Supporter
Wow, "Trump supporter". Such a devastating insult. Did you get that one from HuffPo too?

I will not dignify you with a responce
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3/14/2016 11:27:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 11:26:49 PM, TheChristian wrote:
I will not dignify you with a responce
But you did it anyway.
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3/14/2016 11:31:36 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 11:27:42 PM, someloser wrote:
At 3/14/2016 11:26:49 PM, TheChristian wrote:
I will not dignify you with a responce
But you did it anyway.

I felt a compulsion to answer you by telling you I will not answer
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3/14/2016 11:37:34 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:37:52 PM, someloser wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:24:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM, TheChristian wrote:
The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse

Agree most Christians ignore the barbaric old testament. However do you not see it as hypocritical to criticise trump when your holy book contains views far more extreme then those held by trump?

Why does it matter? The Bible contains a number of things, many of which have little impact on what Christians believe today.

It matters because your god previously supported them. If a politician advocated Nazism for 30 years then claimed to be a conservative people would still question if he held his old views. The simple fact he/she used to hold such views would prevent him/her from obtaining support from many voters.

Whatever you say about the old testament if Christianity is the truth your god did at one time hold extremely violent, sexist and racist views.

Still waiting for the "racist" bit. Not sure what the problem is otherwise (if you're familiar with Christian moral axioms, you should know why).

And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying; Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children"s bread, and to cast it to dogs. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters" table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour." Matthew 15:22-8

Numerous other pro israelite verses exist.

He is still homophobic and still regards women as lesser then men. As shown by Christianity opposing gay marriage and women obtaining positions in the priesthood.

Nothing necessarily homophobic about the former. Latter isn't due to God supposedly regarding women as "lesser than men".

Well surely you can't deny this is homophobic?

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:13)

Well the Christian god is clearly sexist. Far more so than Donald Trump. The reason the bible is sexist is that it was written by sexist men in a sexist era. The sexist men holding high positions in the church use this holy book as an excuse for their bigoted attitudes and justify the discrimination by using the bible.
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3/14/2016 11:48:50 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:35:36 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:24:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance

Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

"If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death."

Christians will claim that this commandment no longer applies because it is in the Old Testament, though they will also claim that God never changes. Also, they will conveniently forget Matthew 5:18, where Jesus says:

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

If Jesus believed in this law and declared that it was not to be abolished, then why don"t modern Christians obey it?

It is sexist.

In 1 Timothy 2:11-12, we read:

Women should learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

Corinthians 14:34-35:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse

Agree most Christians ignore the barbaric old testament. However do you not see it as hypocritical to criticise trump when your holy book contains views far more extreme then those held by trump? Whatever you say about the old testament if Christianity is the truth your god did at one time hold extremely violent, sexist and racist views. He is still homophobic and still regards women as lesser then men. As shown by Christianity opposing gay marriage and women obtaining positions in the priesthood.

These views are not hypocritical because we don't say women are good for nothing but looks. We might keep them out of certain positions out of tradition and few Christian women complain about this. Gay marriage isn't in the bible per se, it is simply discouraged to have sex with the same gender, and if you look in the bible it never says loving gays will go to hell. Not in a single place, and I read the entire bible more than once. I spent 6 months studying the verses that were used by homophobes and I doubt you used more than a minute.

Tradition is a terrible excuse for blatant discrimination based on someone's gender. In reality the men in high ranking positions within the church are genuinely sexist and regard themselves as superior to any woman. They take comfort in the numerous sexist bible verses showing that God is in agreement with them.

Well punishment by death is severe enough!

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:13)

I think if Donald Trump said that at a political rally he would be arrested and charged for hate speech and inciting violence!
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/14/2016 11:56:25 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 11:48:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:35:36 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:24:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance

Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

"If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death."

Christians will claim that this commandment no longer applies because it is in the Old Testament, though they will also claim that God never changes. Also, they will conveniently forget Matthew 5:18, where Jesus says:

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

If Jesus believed in this law and declared that it was not to be abolished, then why don"t modern Christians obey it?

It is sexist.

In 1 Timothy 2:11-12, we read:

Women should learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

Corinthians 14:34-35:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse

Agree most Christians ignore the barbaric old testament. However do you not see it as hypocritical to criticise trump when your holy book contains views far more extreme then those held by trump? Whatever you say about the old testament if Christianity is the truth your god did at one time hold extremely violent, sexist and racist views. He is still homophobic and still regards women as lesser then men. As shown by Christianity opposing gay marriage and women obtaining positions in the priesthood.

These views are not hypocritical because we don't say women are good for nothing but looks. We might keep them out of certain positions out of tradition and few Christian women complain about this. Gay marriage isn't in the bible per se, it is simply discouraged to have sex with the same gender, and if you look in the bible it never says loving gays will go to hell. Not in a single place, and I read the entire bible more than once. I spent 6 months studying the verses that were used by homophobes and I doubt you used more than a minute.

Tradition is a terrible excuse for blatant discrimination based on someone's gender. In reality the men in high ranking positions within the church are genuinely sexist and regard themselves as superior to any woman. They take comfort in the numerous sexist bible verses showing that God is in agreement with them.

I'd like to punch her in the face, I tell ya, I miss the old days where she would be taken out in a stretcher, I mean, look at that face!
Trump Quote you're gonna get offended at.
I'm sorry, are you a Christian? No? Then fvck off with using my religion which I have more knowledge in it.
Well punishment by death is severe enough!

See below
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:13)

Bible verse in old testament somehow applies despite the forgiveness and the "he who is without sin cast the first stone" clause!
I think if Donald Trump said that at a political rally he would be arrested and charged for hate speech and inciting violence!
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3/15/2016 12:27:30 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 11:56:25 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 11:48:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:35:36 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:24:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance

Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

"If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death."

Christians will claim that this commandment no longer applies because it is in the Old Testament, though they will also claim that God never changes. Also, they will conveniently forget Matthew 5:18, where Jesus says:

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

If Jesus believed in this law and declared that it was not to be abolished, then why don"t modern Christians obey it?

It is sexist.

In 1 Timothy 2:11-12, we read:

Women should learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

Corinthians 14:34-35:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

The Christian God of the Bible had no qualms about capital punishment and demanded it for the following "crimes."

blasphemy (i.e. profaning the divine name) Leviticus 24:16
bestiality (both parties) Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15
homosexuality Leviticus 20:13
pre-marital sex (women only) Deuteronomy 22:20-21
adultery Deuteronomy 22:22 and Leviticus 20:10
wizardry Leviticus 20:27
witchcraft Exodus 22:18
(or poisoning or making potions, depending on the translation)
spiritualism Leviticus 20:27
making sacrifices to other gods Exodus 22:20
worshipping other gods, or heavenly objects Deuteronomy 17:2-5
cursing one"s parents Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9
being a stubborn and rebellious son Deuteronomy 21:18-21
desecrating the Sabbath Exodus 31:14

Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse

Agree most Christians ignore the barbaric old testament. However do you not see it as hypocritical to criticise trump when your holy book contains views far more extreme then those held by trump? Whatever you say about the old testament if Christianity is the truth your god did at one time hold extremely violent, sexist and racist views. He is still homophobic and still regards women as lesser then men. As shown by Christianity opposing gay marriage and women obtaining positions in the priesthood.

These views are not hypocritical because we don't say women are good for nothing but looks. We might keep them out of certain positions out of tradition and few Christian women complain about this. Gay marriage isn't in the bible per se, it is simply discouraged to have sex with the same gender, and if you look in the bible it never says loving gays will go to hell. Not in a single place, and I read the entire bible more than once. I spent 6 months studying the verses that were used by homophobes and I doubt you used more than a minute.

Tradition is a terrible excuse for blatant discrimination based on someone's gender. In reality the men in high ranking positions within the church are genuinely sexist and regard themselves as superior to any woman. They take comfort in the numerous sexist bible verses showing that God is in agreement with them.

I'd like to punch her in the face, I tell ya, I miss the old days where she would be taken out in a stretcher, I mean, look at that face!

As I said I don't support trump. Got a source for that one?

Trump Quote you're gonna get offended at.
I'm sorry, are you a Christian? No? Then fvck off with using my religion which I have more knowledge in it.

I am entitled to use verses from the bible to point out the hypocrisy of a Christian criticising trump for being a bigot. its irrelevant if you have studied the bible more than me.

Well punishment by death is severe enough!

See below
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:13)

Bible verse in old testament somehow applies despite the forgiveness and the "he who is without sin cast the first stone" clause!

Well clearly the Christian god is homophobic. Anyone who thinks putting someone to death for a homosexual act is clearly homophobic.

I think if Donald Trump said that at a political rally he would be arrested and charged
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/15/2016 12:28:30 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/14/2016 10:13:29 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:11:27 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

You have converted me. Where do I go to don my Anti-Trump hood?

Haha, very funny, your sarcasm is appreciated

So is yours brother.
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3/15/2016 12:30:16 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 12:27:30 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 11:56:25 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 11:48:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:35:36 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:24:50 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:16:43 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:12:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:25:52 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 9:13:10 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

I don't support trump but I don't really see how a Christian can criticise someone for being racist, sexist, homophobic or intolerant of other faiths.

Christian scripture condones and encourages these things.

No they do not. The scripture teaches love and acceptance

Incorrect. Christianity condones the murder of non believers.

In Deuteronomy 17:2-5, we read the following commandment from God:

"If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, which I have not commanded, and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and you shall stone them to death."

Christians will claim that this commandment no longer applies because it is in the Old Testament, though they will also claim that God never changes. Also, they will conveniently forget Matthew 5:18, where Jesus says:


Exodus 21:7-11:

If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, then he shall let her be bought back again; but he has no power to sell her to foreigners, since he has wronged her by no longer wanting her after marrying her. And if he arranges an engagement between a Hebrew slave girl and his son, then he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but must treat her as a daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing, or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three things, then she may leave freely without any payment.

Donald Trump looks like a tolerant liberal socialist in comparison with the Christian god!

Yes I know you will say the old testament does not count. BUT it is in the bible and is the word of your god.

The Old Testament is more history than commandments and we are not required to do either. At any rate, most Christians do not share the same misogamist ideals in that verse

Agree most Christians ignore the barbaric old testament. However do you not see it as hypocritical to criticise trump when your holy book contains views far more extreme then those held by trump? Whatever you say about the old testament if Christianity is the truth your god did at one time hold extremely violent, sexist and racist views. He is still homophobic and still regards women as lesser then men. As shown by Christianity opposing gay marriage and women obtaining positions in the priesthood.

These views are not hypocritical because we don't say women are good for nothing but looks. We might keep them out of certain positions out of tradition and few Christian women complain about this. Gay marriage isn't in the bible per se, it is simply discouraged to have sex with the same gender, and if you look in the bible it never says loving gays will go to hell. Not in a single place, and I read the entire bible more than once. I spent 6 months studying the verses that were used by homophobes and I doubt you used more than a minute.

Tradition is a terrible excuse for blatant discrimination based on someone's gender. In reality the men in high ranking positions within the church are genuinely sexist and regard themselves as superior to any woman. They take comfort in the numerous sexist bible verses showing that God is in agreement with them.

I'd like to punch her in the face, I tell ya, I miss the old days where she would be taken out in a stretcher, I mean, look at that face!

As I said I don't support trump. Got a source for that one?

Nope
Trump Quote you're gonna get offended at.
I'm sorry, are you a Christian? No? Then fvck off with using my religion which I have more knowledge in it.

I am entitled to use verses from the bible to point out the hypocrisy of a Christian criticising trump for being a bigot. its irrelevant if you have studied the bible more than me.

I tolerate others, thus, not a bigot
Well punishment by death is severe enough!

See below
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:13)

Bible verse in old testament somehow applies despite the forgiveness and the "he who is without sin cast the first stone" clause!

Well clearly the Christian god is homophobic. Anyone who thinks putting someone to death for
Forgiveness^. Jesus.
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3/15/2016 12:33:11 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 12:28:30 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:13:29 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:11:27 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

You have converted me. Where do I go to don my Anti-Trump hood?

Haha, very funny, your sarcasm is appreciated

So is yours brother

Either contribute or BYYE
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3/15/2016 2:11:58 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 12:33:11 AM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/15/2016 12:28:30 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:13:29 PM, TheChristian wrote:
At 3/14/2016 10:11:27 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2016 8:01:35 PM, TheChristian wrote:
https://docs.google.com...

If you still support Trump after this, You have no morals and I disavow you as human beings. These quotes are all true Trump quotes and all very racist, sexist, anti-republican, homophobic, misogynistic, and anti-Islam and plain hateful.

You have converted me. Where do I go to don my Anti-Trump hood?

Haha, very funny, your sarcasm is appreciated

So is yours brother

Either contribute or BYYE

Contribute what? That Anti-Trump warriors are a source of endless humor? I'm pretty sure that needs no embellishment.