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YYW
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3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.
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3/26/2016 9:35:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I think that as a nation where Islam is the established religion Saudi Arabia should be able to outlaw homosexuality. However, they should deal with gay people far differently.
Instead of executions:

-Therapy (Lawrence J. Hatterer, anyone?)
-Relatively short periods of imprisonment for homosexual acts
-Castration
-Deportation (the state pays for your resettlement or your assets in Saudi Arabia are used to pay for your resettlement; there is an established host country which all Saudi gays are sent to and they are given asylum and eventual citizenship)
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3/26/2016 9:41:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 9:35:40 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I think that as a nation where Islam is the established religion Saudi Arabia should be able to outlaw homosexuality. However, they should deal with gay people far differently.
Instead of executions:

-Therapy (Lawrence J. Hatterer, anyone?)
-Relatively short periods of imprisonment for homosexual acts
-Castration
-Deportation (the state pays for your resettlement or your assets in Saudi Arabia are used to pay for your resettlement; there is an established host country which all Saudi gays are sent to and they are given asylum and eventual citizenship)

That is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen another member on this site write.
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3/26/2016 9:45:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 9:41:07 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:35:40 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I think that as a nation where Islam is the established religion Saudi Arabia should be able to outlaw homosexuality. However, they should deal with gay people far differently.
Instead of executions:

-Therapy (Lawrence J. Hatterer, anyone?)
-Relatively short periods of imprisonment for homosexual acts
-Castration
-Deportation (the state pays for your resettlement or your assets in Saudi Arabia are used to pay for your resettlement; there is an established host country which all Saudi gays are sent to and they are given asylum and eventual citizenship)

That is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen another member on this site write.

I suppose it's only natural that we would disagree on this.
Call me Vox, the Resident Contrarian of debate.org.

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3/26/2016 9:54:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 9:35:40 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I think that as a nation where Islam is the established religion Saudi Arabia should be able to outlaw homosexuality. However, they should deal with gay people far differently.
Instead of executions:

-Therapy (Lawrence J. Hatterer, anyone?)
-Relatively short periods of imprisonment for homosexual acts
-Castration
-Deportation (the state pays for your resettlement or your assets in Saudi Arabia are used to pay for your resettlement; there is an established host country which all Saudi gays are sent to and they are given asylum and eventual citizenship)

Just call yourself an Islamic Extremist already.
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3/26/2016 9:55:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 9:41:07 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:35:40 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I think that as a nation where Islam is the established religion Saudi Arabia should be able to outlaw homosexuality. However, they should deal with gay people far differently.
Instead of executions:

-Therapy (Lawrence J. Hatterer, anyone?)
-Relatively short periods of imprisonment for homosexual acts
-Castration
-Deportation (the state pays for your resettlement or your assets in Saudi Arabia are used to pay for your resettlement; there is an established host country which all Saudi gays are sent to and they are given asylum and eventual citizenship)

That is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen another member on this site write.
^This.
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3/26/2016 10:03:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 9:54:14 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:35:40 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I think that as a nation where Islam is the established religion Saudi Arabia should be able to outlaw homosexuality. However, they should deal with gay people far differently.
Instead of executions:

-Therapy (Lawrence J. Hatterer, anyone?)
-Relatively short periods of imprisonment for homosexual acts
-Castration
-Deportation (the state pays for your resettlement or your assets in Saudi Arabia are used to pay for your resettlement; there is an established host country which all Saudi gays are sent to and they are given asylum and eventual citizenship)

Just call yourself an Islamic Extremist already.

I'm not Muslim.
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3/26/2016 10:08:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 10:03:43 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:54:14 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:35:40 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I think that as a nation where Islam is the established religion Saudi Arabia should be able to outlaw homosexuality. However, they should deal with gay people far differently.
Instead of executions:

-Therapy (Lawrence J. Hatterer, anyone?)
-Relatively short periods of imprisonment for homosexual acts
-Castration
-Deportation (the state pays for your resettlement or your assets in Saudi Arabia are used to pay for your resettlement; there is an established host country which all Saudi gays are sent to and they are given asylum and eventual citizenship)

Just call yourself an Islamic Extremist already.

I'm not Muslim.

You certainly sound like one.
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3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.
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3/26/2016 11:20:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Indeed, it's shocking that we allow themselves to call the United States an "ally." The Saudi government is the most repulsive, barbaric, terrorist-supporting, illegitimate, egregious political entity other than North Korea, on the face of this earth.
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3/26/2016 11:29:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 11:20:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Indeed, it's shocking that we allow themselves to call the United States an "ally." The Saudi government is the most repulsive, barbaric, terrorist-supporting, illegitimate, egregious political entity other than North Korea, on the face of this earth.

And even regarding diplomacy, they're literally our useless ally. When has Saudi Arabia actually tried to fight ISIS, take in Syrian refugees, or help us out in literally any way other than giving us oil? They also fund a lot of the terrorism we try to fight against. It really is disappointing that we go far too lightly on them and never pressure them into anything
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3/26/2016 11:37:51 PM
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At 3/26/2016 11:29:50 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:20:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Indeed, it's shocking that we allow themselves to call the United States an "ally." The Saudi government is the most repulsive, barbaric, terrorist-supporting, illegitimate, egregious political entity other than North Korea, on the face of this earth.

And even regarding diplomacy, they're literally our useless ally. When has Saudi Arabia actually tried to fight ISIS,

They won't. Saudi Arabia likes ISIS.

take in Syrian refugees,

Well, no one should be taking in Syrian refugees, and, frankly, Bashir al Assad is a more legitimate leader than the House of Saud.

or help us out in literally any way other than giving us oil?

They don't "give" us oil.... they sell it to us at outrageously high prices because Arabs in the middle east have formed an oil cartel for the purpose of controlling prices and bleeding the West dry.

They also fund a lot of the terrorism we try to fight against.

Yes, they do. They are a terrorist supporting state, to an even greater extent than Pakistan or Iran.
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3/26/2016 11:43:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 11:20:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Indeed, it's shocking that we allow themselves to call the United States an "ally." The Saudi government is the most repulsive, barbaric, terrorist-supporting, illegitimate, egregious political entity other than North Korea, on the face of this earth.

Yet another reason to vote Trump. Trump would force "allies" to pay dearly for this behavior. (I can imagine the cigar room talk going down like this: So you wanna kill the gays? I'll just triple US oil shale production. How about it now Saudi? Who's your daddy? That's right.)
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
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For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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3/26/2016 11:46:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 11:43:12 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:20:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Indeed, it's shocking that we allow themselves to call the United States an "ally." The Saudi government is the most repulsive, barbaric, terrorist-supporting, illegitimate, egregious political entity other than North Korea, on the face of this earth.

Yet another reason to vote Trump. Trump would force "allies" to pay dearly for this behavior. (I can imagine the cigar room talk going down like this: So you wanna kill the gays? I'll just triple US oil shale production. How about it now Saudi? Who's your daddy? That's right.)

Damn right.
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3/26/2016 11:54:57 PM
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At 3/26/2016 11:46:10 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:43:12 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:20:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Indeed, it's shocking that we allow themselves to call the United States an "ally." The Saudi government is the most repulsive, barbaric, terrorist-supporting, illegitimate, egregious political entity other than North Korea, on the face of this earth.

Yet another reason to vote Trump. Trump would force "allies" to pay dearly for this behavior. (I can imagine the cigar room talk going down like this: So you wanna kill the gays? I'll just triple US oil shale production. How about it now Saudi? Who's your daddy? That's right.)

Damn right.

Meanwhile, Shillary would be doing a classical Euro tour, and speaking to the UN about how terrible things are, and lets talk sanctions, and bla bla, and doesn't that look good enough for the press? Yes, my managers say it's fine.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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3/27/2016
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 11:46:10 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:43:12 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:20:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Indeed, it's shocking that we allow themselves to call the United States an "ally." The Saudi government is the most repulsive, barbaric, terrorist-supporting, illegitimate, egregious political entity other than North Korea, on the face of this earth.

Yet another reason to vote Trump. Trump would force "allies" to pay dearly for this behavior. (I can imagine the cigar room talk going down like this: So you wanna kill the gays? I'll just triple US oil shale production. How about it now Saudi? Who's your daddy? That's right.)

Damn right.

Judging by some of Trump's comments, it seems he would actually deal with Saudi Arabia the right way. Clinton on the other hand...
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3/27/2016 1:32:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/26/2016 11:20:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Indeed, it's shocking that we allow themselves to call the United States an "ally." The Saudi government is the most repulsive, barbaric, terrorist-supporting, illegitimate, egregious political entity other than North Korea, on the face of this earth.

Worst part. Getting rid of the King will result in more terrorists, because the country will be unstable What a pathetic situation for the West.
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3/27/2016 2:19:04 AM
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At 3/26/2016 11:18:52 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

It hurts to think that we're allied with those lunatics.

Allied? That's the least of it. The West put them in to power, and stabbed much more moderate, traditional Muslims in the back while doing it, because we thought that they would do our bidding more efficiently.
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3/28/2016 5:42:32 AM
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I wouldnt say that, but they do have human rights issues to work on
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3/28/2016 6:53:10 PM
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At 3/26/2016 9:22:46 PM, YYW wrote:
Saudi Arabia has made coming out on the internet punishable by death.

- I don't think so. Source? That's outright anti-Islamic.

This is especially concerning, where the US Federal Government is trying to force tech companies to decrypt its own software. If that technology were in the hands of the Saudi Arabian government, it could lay the foundation for the state sanctioned mass murder of people on the basis of their sexuality.

- LOL! No such thing.
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