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3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

2. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Trump, the stronger he will become. The more non-Trump supporting republicans blame Trump for the violence, the more likely Trump will be to become the president of the United States.

12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Trump is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.
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3/27/2016 12:04:55 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

2. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Trump, the stronger he will become. The more non-Trump supporting republicans blame Trump for the violence, the more likely Trump will be to become the president of the United States.

12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Trump is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.

14: Trump is the modern day Teddy Roosevelt. If he doesn't get the nomination, he will run a bull moose type party.
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3/27/2016 12:17:16 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

I think the branch devote dentirely to getting dirt on celebrities (Deadspin) is doing exactly that, but not Gawker itself

2. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

Lol

3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

I can buy that

5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

That would imply that we were ever really NOT at war in the Middle East in the first place, which is a false assumption to make

7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

China and Russia had a bit of a falling out in the 1960's

9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

Perpetual war will happen no matter who is in office. Last time I checked Trump wanted to invade Syria, so he definitely wouldnt keep us out of perpetual war if elected XD

10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

Voting for Sanders puts the future of the party at risk since the Dem party under Sanders would move faster and further to the left than the American public currently is, meaning the GOP would become more appealing. Clinton at least keeps the party where its at.

11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Trump, the stronger he will become. The more non-Trump supporting republicans blame Trump for the violence, the more likely Trump will be to become the president of the United States.

That works in primaries but it wont work in the general election where Trump scares the living sh** out of people.

12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Trump is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

lol

13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.

Its mostly that second option
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3/27/2016 12:24:13 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 12:17:16 AM, imabench wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

I think the branch devote dentirely to getting dirt on celebrities (Deadspin) is doing exactly that, but not Gawker itself

2. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

Lol

3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

I can buy that

5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

That would imply that we were ever really NOT at war in the Middle East in the first place, which is a false assumption to make

7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

China and Russia had a bit of a falling out in the 1960's

9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

Perpetual war will happen no matter who is in office. Last time I checked Trump wanted to invade Syria, so he definitely wouldnt keep us out of perpetual war if elected XD

10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

Voting for Sanders puts the future of the party at risk since the Dem party under Sanders would move faster and further to the left than the American public currently is, meaning the GOP would become more appealing. Clinton at least keeps the party where its at.

11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Trump, the stronger he will become. The more non-Trump supporting republicans blame Trump for the violence, the more likely Trump will be to become the president of the United States.

That works in primaries but it wont work in the general election where Trump scares the living sh** out of people.

12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Trump is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

lol

13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.

Its mostly that second option

Shall I clear up your misconceptions?
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3/27/2016 12:34:40 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

Agreed.

2. Donald Drumpf will be the next president of the United States.

If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

I am curious as to how you think that happens. What is your electoral map (270towin.com)?

3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

Modify that to "there is no way to achieve peace" and you'd be right.

4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

Agreed.

5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

Pretty close.

6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

We're already in war in the middle east.

7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

Meh.

8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

I'd wager a close one would be a united South American power bloc (maybe including some of central America/Mexico). Closer to the homeland.

9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Drumpf will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

Lol.

10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

Agreed.

11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Drumpf, the stronger he will become. The more non-Drumpf supporting republicans blame Drumpf for the violence, the more likely Drumpf will be to become the president of the United States.

Not really.

12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Drumpf is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

That would actually be Trump. Cruz is not reasonable, but he is at least sane. In that he doesn't change his views every five seconds or depending on the audience.

13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.

Many millennials suck. I'll take them any day over Baby Boomers, though.
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3/27/2016 12:41:29 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 12:24:13 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/27/2016 12:17:16 AM, imabench wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

I think the branch devote dentirely to getting dirt on celebrities (Deadspin) is doing exactly that, but not Gawker itself

2. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

Lol

3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

I can buy that

5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

That would imply that we were ever really NOT at war in the Middle East in the first place, which is a false assumption to make

7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

China and Russia had a bit of a falling out in the 1960's

9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

Perpetual war will happen no matter who is in office. Last time I checked Trump wanted to invade Syria, so he definitely wouldnt keep us out of perpetual war if elected XD

10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

Voting for Sanders puts the future of the party at risk since the Dem party under Sanders would move faster and further to the left than the American public currently is, meaning the GOP would become more appealing. Clinton at least keeps the party where its at.

11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Trump, the stronger he will become. The more non-Trump supporting republicans blame Trump for the violence, the more likely Trump will be to become the president of the United States.

That works in primaries but it wont work in the general election where Trump scares the living sh** out of people.

12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Trump is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

lol

13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.

Its mostly that second option

Shall I clear up your misconceptions?

You can try
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3/27/2016 1:03:56 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 12:34:40 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Drumpf is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

That would actually be Trump.

Lol explain. I'm interested
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3/27/2016 1:28:18 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 1:03:56 AM, someloser wrote:
At 3/27/2016 12:34:40 AM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Drumpf is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

That would actually be Trump.

Lol explain. I'm interested

This will be interesting.
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3/27/2016 2:53:54 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

Can you expand on this please?

2. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

Agreed.

3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

Yup.

4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

Mainly China. The question is do they even want to? N. Korea is no threat to them atm, they are wholly dependent on them to circumvent certain sanctions and to receive goods. I'd like to learn more about Singapore's role in all this.

5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

Yup.

6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

Yup.

7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

Yup.

9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

Yup.

10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

Yup.

11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Trump, the stronger he will become. The more non-Trump supporting republicans blame Trump for the violence, the more likely Trump will be to become the president of the United States.

Yup.

12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Trump is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

Yup.

13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.

Yup.
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3/27/2016 2:57:39 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:53:54 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

Can you expand on this please?

I could, in another thread. Libel law is immensely complex for "public figures."

2. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

Agreed.

3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

Yup.

4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

Mainly China. The question is do they even want to? N. Korea is no threat to them atm, they are wholly dependent on them to circumvent certain sanctions and to receive goods. I'd like to learn more about Singapore's role in all this.

5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

Yup.

6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

Yup.

7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

Yup.

9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

Yup.

10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

Yup.

11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Trump, the stronger he will become. The more non-Trump supporting republicans blame Trump for the violence, the more likely Trump will be to become the president of the United States.

Yup.

12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Trump is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

Yup.

13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.

Yup.
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3/27/2016 3:04:00 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:59:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/27/2016 12:24:13 AM, YYW wrote:

Shall I clear up your misconceptions?

In time... not really something I'm interested in doing now... just not that important atm.
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3/27/2016 3:05:07 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 11:06:48 PM, YYW wrote:
Yes
1. Gawker magazine should be sued out of business and legal protections that enable people who publish things like Hulk Hogan's sex tape should be weakened.

Unfortunately yes
2. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

If that'll ever be achieved
3. There is no way to achieve peace in the Middle East, or to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without normalizing relations with Iran.

North Korea is the little pug and China is its owner
4. China and Russia are the only world powers that can get North Korea under control. Singapore, however, could very realistically play a strong diplomatic role.

Agreed
5. Targeted killings are the most effective foreign policy tool at the United States' disposal at this time.

I wish her foreign policy was a good as she is at denying confidentiality
6. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will drag us back into war in the Middle East.

Yes
7. The Trans Pacific Partnership will project American economic power at the expense of American workers.

Agreed
8. The United States' most substantial geopolitical threat is the possibility of an alliance between China and Russia forming out of common opposition to the United States, NATO and Western Europe, generally.

I believe we'll be at war in the Middle East fighting Islamic Extremists for much longer than 4 years under any president
9. Electing any president other than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump will result in perpetual war in the Middle East for the next four years.

Yes - super-delegates
10. Establishment democrats who are voting for Clinton do so at the risk of future peril for the Democratic party.

Yes reverse effect don't they learn?
11. The more left-wing protesters protest Donald Trump, the stronger he will become. The more non-Trump supporting republicans blame Trump for the violence, the more likely Trump will be to become the president of the United States.

Yes, the last thing we need is a polarizing ideologist as a president, but I definitely disagree on the latter
12. Ted Cruz is the most dangerous man in the Republican party; Donald Trump is an infinitely more reasonable candidate than Cruz.

Agreed
13. Bernie Sanders' supporters embody both the best people in America, and some of the most disgusting, entitled, spoiled, intellectually depraved Millennials I have ever seen or encountered.
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3/27/2016 3:08:02 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 3:04:00 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/27/2016 2:59:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/27/2016 12:24:13 AM, YYW wrote:

Shall I clear up your misconceptions?

In time... not really something I'm interested in doing now... just not that important atm.

rats
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3/27/2016 3:08:48 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 3:08:02 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/27/2016 3:04:00 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/27/2016 2:59:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/27/2016 12:24:13 AM, YYW wrote:

Shall I clear up your misconceptions?

In time... not really something I'm interested in doing now... just not that important atm.

rats

Will do it later. Watching a lecture right now...
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