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tejretics
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3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?
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Haroush
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3/27/2016 2:45:27 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

You failed to mention his back and forth about immigration in the debates and how he did a behind the scenes deal with the New York Times. So I say no.
vortex86
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3/27/2016 2:51:40 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

I would say this is the least feasible of his plans on immigration. Deporting en masse is not fiscally a good idea. Always aim big though, and reach some middle area when bargaining.
Haroush
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3/27/2016 2:58:05 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:51:40 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

I would say this is the least feasible of his plans on immigration. Deporting en masse is not fiscally a good idea. Always aim big though, and reach some middle area when bargaining.

You mean always aim fake? Yeah, Donald is a fake Republican we know that. At least Cruz doesn't pander to DEMOCRATS!
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3/27/2016 3:14:24 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

It's an opening position for negotiation.
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Peepette
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3/27/2016 3:27:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Especially for the GOP who are fiscally conservative, I don't think there's any chance of this occurring. It's estimated that returning 11M people would cost between 400-600 billion. This does not include a large expansion of the court system and law enforcement to apprehend these people. Total cost could exceed 1 trillion. It's all posturing and pandering on Trump's part.
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3/27/2016 5:47:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 3:27:17 PM, Peepette wrote:
Especially for the GOP who are fiscally conservative, I don't think there's any chance of this occurring. It's estimated that returning 11M people would cost between 400-600 billion. This does not include a large expansion of the court system and law enforcement to apprehend these people. Total cost could exceed 1 trillion. It's all posturing and pandering on Trump's part.

I'm sure he will deport the fringe illegals doing the most harm, and then quietly status quo the rest.
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3/27/2016 6:32:54 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 5:47:42 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/27/2016 3:27:17 PM, Peepette wrote:
Especially for the GOP who are fiscally conservative, I don't think there's any chance of this occurring. It's estimated that returning 11M people would cost between 400-600 billion. This does not include a large expansion of the court system and law enforcement to apprehend these people. Total cost could exceed 1 trillion. It's all posturing and pandering on Trump's part.

I'm sure he will deport the fringe illegals doing the most harm, and then quietly status quo the rest.

+1
Axonly
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3/28/2016 5:49:30 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

No, it will never happen (Certainly hope it doesn't too)
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3/28/2016 2:43:19 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 3:14:24 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

It's an opening position for negotiation.

That's probably the correct answer. And he's hinted at it being a 'for show' deportation anyway, where large numbers would come right back in.

The thing is - the standard GOP line of "secure the borders first, then do amnesty" - there is no way to secure the borders without deportation. It's kind of like saying "Let's stop crime first, then we'll hire some cops".

So really, and I'm not saying this as a Trump supporter, but the simple fact is, Trump is the only candidate of either party who is proposing that we take immigration law seriously. Which is pretty extraordinary place for our country to be at, ya know?
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3/28/2016 11:31:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 5:49:30 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

No, it will never happen (Certainly hope it doesn't too)

Woo, 200th post, I agree with you.
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Greyparrot
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3/28/2016 11:34:28 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 11:31:42 PM, Axonly wrote:
At 3/28/2016 5:49:30 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

No, it will never happen (Certainly hope it doesn't too)

Woo, 200th post, I agree with you.

Can't you go spam the misc section instead?
Axonly
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3/28/2016 11:35:04 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 11:34:28 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/28/2016 11:31:42 PM, Axonly wrote:
At 3/28/2016 5:49:30 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

No, it will never happen (Certainly hope it doesn't too)

Woo, 200th post, I agree with you.

Can't you go spam the misc section instead?
?
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3/29/2016 8:21:31 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
Is he really going to do it?

Most likely.

This oughta be good.
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3/29/2016 1:01:47 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 2:41:32 PM, tejretics wrote:
In August or so, Trump released a detailed immigration proposal. Part of that proposal was on the means to enforce mass-deportations.

http://www.msnbc.com...

Trump has been increasingly supportive of strong enforcement of immigration laws, including by carrying out mass deportations. Some pundits have called it "political posturing," which seems like a smart position, but does Trump's "detailed plan" outline mass-deportation?

Is he really going to do it?

I have no doubt that he'll make a good faith effort to do it. Congress will probably block in some way or another
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