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4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
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4/2/2016 3:59:40 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Oh, welcome back Ms, Smith!
A ban on gay marriage is not discrimination. In general the laws require 2 consenting adults of the opposite sex before you get a marriage license. n.b. nothing is said about a person's sexual orientation. Rock Hudson was able to get a marriage license and nobody hassled him about it.
Still the court outranks the president, and now that they made gay marriage legal, there is nothing that Cruz or anyone else can do to change it.
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4/2/2016 5:15:48 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss

He's the president. He can't do anything unless he's got the okay from judicial and the work already passed by legislature. So to answer your question, NO. Presidential candidates who make bold claims on huge changes they'll make to our legal system are lying to you outright unless there is already a movement within the country being blocked by the current president, which there isn't. Vote for anyone else.
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4/2/2016 6:31:31 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss

Though Cruz is a very religious man, I think his respect and knowledge for the Constitution outweighs his religious bias. He was never a fan of the SCOTUS ruling not so much because "it gave gays rights" but because of the way in which it was executed. Cruz' argument is that the Supreme Court is constitutionally supposed to preserve the law, not right new ones. All he wants to do is put a stop to all the unconstitutional moves our government has been making. Cruz wants to give this decision back to the states where it constitutionally belongs.

In my opinion, the federal government dug itself in a deep hole by gradually getting more involved in marriage. They should have never done so, and now look where it has gotten us!
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4/2/2016 3:23:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/2/2016 6:31:31 AM, AdamEsk wrote:
So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss

Though Cruz is a very religious man, I think his respect and knowledge for the Constitution outweighs his religious bias.
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4/3/2016 3:18:34 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
What Cruz should do is eliminate all marriage.
Marriage is discriminitory. So many kinds of people are not allowed to marry, children, dead people, guys who have to kidnap a bride, Dual species couples, and people who are already married.
Banning Marriage will make things fair for every body.
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4/3/2016 4:02:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Of course I am talking about none of the United States issuing marriage licenses.
Americans could still get married in Canada , they will anyone or anything up there.
They have the option of getting remarried in their home church.
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4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.
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4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
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4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.
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4/4/2016 11:58:23 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

I find it sad that you cling to this notion, or the delusion you are going to reverse this. Your not, the ship has sailed. Time to move on to... I don't know, getting worked-up about people who wear mixed wool and linen.
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4/5/2016 12:00:55 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/4/2016 11:58:23 PM, TBR wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

I find it sad that you cling to this notion, or the delusion you are going to reverse this. Your not, the ship has sailed. Time to move on to...
Just as I find it sad that you still believe marriage has changed . . . It hasn't. Perhaps it's time for you to move on.
I don't know, getting worked-up about people who wear mixed wool and linen.
I swear, people don't know what ceremonial laws are . . .
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4/5/2016 12:03:00 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 12:00:55 AM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:58:23 PM, TBR wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

I find it sad that you cling to this notion, or the delusion you are going to reverse this. Your not, the ship has sailed. Time to move on to...
Just as I find it sad that you still believe marriage has changed . . . It hasn't. Perhaps it's time for you to move on.

It has. Open your eyes. This is not some opinion of mine, it is simple reality.

I don't know, getting worked-up about people who wear mixed wool and linen.
I swear, people don't know what ceremonial laws are . . .
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4/5/2016 12:21:47 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

Legal marriage is little more then some paper verifying to people mutually wish to share accounts, and certain rights. Sorry, but according to law there isn't much to it these days and hasn't been for awhile. Its nothing but a legal agreement. Legal marriage isn't even required to actually be married so I'm not sure how people can get worked up. Real marriage will happen whether legal marriage is filed or not.

The only thing you are doing if gay marriage is rejected, is oppressing someone financially because they want to live with the same sex, which is just wrong. There are no ceremonies in legal marriage, so maybe its best not to act like there are.
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4/5/2016 4:03:22 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
So, now a woman can marry another woman but a man cant i.e. he is still married to wife #1, That can't be fair!
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4/5/2016 1:27:58 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/2/2016 6:31:31 AM, AdamEsk wrote:
So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss

Though Cruz is a very religious man, I think his respect and knowledge for the Constitution outweighs his religious bias. He was never a fan of the SCOTUS ruling not so much because "it gave gays rights" but because of the way in which it was executed. Cruz' argument is that the Supreme Court is constitutionally supposed to preserve the law, not right new ones. All he wants to do is put a stop to all the unconstitutional moves our government has been making. Cruz wants to give this decision back to the states where it constitutionally belongs.

In my opinion, the federal government dug itself in a deep hole by gradually getting more involved in marriage. They should have never done so, and now look where it has gotten us!

That is silly. The SCOTUS never wrote a law in its existence. It however has ruled for and against laws since it's founding.

Ted Cruz is just like all politicians. They like to misrepresent the truth when it does not swing in their favor.
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4/5/2016 2:41:45 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 1:27:58 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/2/2016 6:31:31 AM, AdamEsk wrote:
So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss

Though Cruz is a very religious man, I think his respect and knowledge for the Constitution outweighs his religious bias. He was never a fan of the SCOTUS ruling not so much because "it gave gays rights" but because of the way in which it was executed. Cruz' argument is that the Supreme Court is constitutionally supposed to preserve the law, not right new ones. All he wants to do is put a stop to all the unconstitutional moves our government has been making. Cruz wants to give this decision back to the states where it constitutionally belongs.

In my opinion, the federal government dug itself in a deep hole by gradually getting more involved in marriage. They should have never done so, and now look where it has gotten us!

That is silly. The SCOTUS never wrote a law in its existence. It however has ruled for and against laws since it's founding.

Ted Cruz is just like all politicians. They like to misrepresent the truth when it does not swing in their favor.

I have banged against this wall many times - ask any of them to tell me the "law" that has been written by the SCOTUS. Such garbage. Did the SCOTUS write new law in District of Columbia v. Heller? its only called new law when they don't like the outcome.
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4/5/2016 4:43:02 PM
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It is not so much as writing a new law , it's taking part in the creation and elimination of laws that are in a case they hear.
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4/5/2016 7:58:37 PM
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So say some women think that marriage should be dual species,
They have a stallion who is their sex partner. ,some of these horses are just so well hung it seems stupid for a woman to settle for a human male.
These woman have an employer who provides health insurance for the employee's spouse, shouldn't they also pay the bill from the veteranarian?
These women live on an island where their unusual life style is what everyone does.
They have incorporated this island as a city.
A clerk who is an "animal lover" issues a marriage license to a dual species couple. Mrs. Ed, a local judge performs the wedding ceremony.
Some of those moral majority type people object to this and they set off a chain of motions and lawsuits that winds up in the supreme court.
During extensive hearings , the judges watch all these videos of beautiful stallions making love to beautiful naked women. A concensus of opinion is formed that love between these beauties, and these beasts, is a wonderful thing.
Justice Roberts addresses the court and reminds them that they have been appointed for life, so they can't be fired for ANYTHING. They rule in favor of this form of love. From then on ladies, you don't have to settle for a husband who has a little thing that is just a few inches long.
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4/5/2016 8:01:26 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 4:43:02 PM, xus00HAY wrote:
It is not so much as writing a new law , it's taking part in the creation and elimination of laws that are in a case they hear.

The second part of your statement is the only truth, and the express purpose of the court.
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4/6/2016 12:14:40 AM
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At 4/5/2016 7:58:37 PM, xus00HAY wrote:
So say some women think that marriage should be dual species,
They have a stallion who is their sex partner. ,some of these horses are just so well hung it seems stupid for a woman to settle for a human male.
These woman have an employer who provides health insurance for the employee's spouse, shouldn't they also pay the bill from the veteranarian?
These women live on an island where their unusual life style is what everyone does.
They have incorporated this island as a city.
A clerk who is an "animal lover" issues a marriage license to a dual species couple. Mrs. Ed, a local judge performs the wedding ceremony.
Some of those moral majority type people object to this and they set off a chain of motions and lawsuits that winds up in the supreme court.
During extensive hearings , the judges watch all these videos of beautiful stallions making love to beautiful naked women. A concensus of opinion is formed that love between these beauties, and these beasts, is a wonderful thing.
Justice Roberts addresses the court and reminds them that they have been appointed for life, so they can't be fired for ANYTHING. They rule in favor of this form of love. From then on ladies, you don't have to settle for a husband who has a little thing that is just a few inches long.

I would guess you are more so into farm animals sex than making a point.
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4/6/2016 12:20:33 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 12:14:40 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 7:58:37 PM, xus00HAY wrote:
So say some women think that marriage should be dual species,
They have a stallion who is their sex partner. ,some of these horses are just so well hung it seems stupid for a woman to settle for a human male.
These woman have an employer who provides health insurance for the employee's spouse, shouldn't they also pay the bill from the veteranarian?
These women live on an island where their unusual life style is what everyone does.
They have incorporated this island as a city.
A clerk who is an "animal lover" issues a marriage license to a dual species couple. Mrs. Ed, a local judge performs the wedding ceremony.
Some of those moral majority type people object to this and they set off a chain of motions and lawsuits that winds up in the supreme court.
During extensive hearings , the judges watch all these videos of beautiful stallions making love to beautiful naked women. A concensus of opinion is formed that love between these beauties, and these beasts, is a wonderful thing.
Justice Roberts addresses the court and reminds them that they have been appointed for life, so they can't be fired for ANYTHING. They rule in favor of this form of love. From then on ladies, you don't have to settle for a husband who has a little thing that is just a few inches long.

I would guess you are more so into farm animals sex than making a point.

I had forgotten that this guy is sick when I replied to him. Yea, he has run this before.

When Mr. Ed wants to marry a human woman (or whats his name - Wilber?), we can talk, but till then....
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4/6/2016 1:46:39 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Back in the day nobody would think That there was any chance that Mr. Ed. would marry Wilbur. Now it is a definate maybe.
Marriage used to about family, and a man owning his wife so no other man could **** her. And therefore we knew for sure who a child's real father was.
Now you have a right to marry anyone you want.
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4/6/2016 1:59:05 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 1:46:39 AM, xus00HAY wrote:
Back in the day nobody would think That there was any chance that Mr. Ed. would marry Wilbur. Now it is a definate maybe.
Marriage used to about family, and a man owning his wife so no other man could **** her. And therefore we knew for sure who a child's real father was.
Now you have a right to marry anyone you want.

Damn right they can if they want
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4/6/2016 8:12:02 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 12:03:00 AM, TBR wrote:
At 4/5/2016 12:00:55 AM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:58:23 PM, TBR wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

I find it sad that you cling to this notion, or the delusion you are going to reverse this. Your not, the ship has sailed. Time to move on to...
Just as I find it sad that you still believe marriage has changed . . . It hasn't. Perhaps it's time for you to move on.

It has. Open your eyes. This is not some opinion of mine, it is simple reality.
For the last time, marriage was established by God, not the government. God defined marriage as between a man and a woman.
I don't know, getting worked-up about people who wear mixed wool and linen.
I swear, people don't know what ceremonial laws are . . .
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4/6/2016 8:15:34 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 12:21:47 AM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

Legal marriage is little more then some paper verifying to people mutually wish to share accounts, and certain rights. Sorry, but according to law there isn't much to it these days and hasn't been for awhile. Its nothing but a legal agreement. Legal marriage isn't even required to actually be married so I'm not sure how people can get worked up. Real marriage will happen whether legal marriage is filed or not.
What do you define "real marriage" as?
The only thing you are doing if gay marriage is rejected, is oppressing someone financially because they want to live with the same sex, which is just wrong. There are no ceremonies in legal marriage, so maybe its best not to act like there are.
Wrong. They can still have civil unions, which would essentially provide the same benefits and privileges as marriage, it just wouldn't be called "marriage". In that scenario, everyone would win.
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4/6/2016 8:18:01 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 8:12:02 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/5/2016 12:03:00 AM, TBR wrote:
At 4/5/2016 12:00:55 AM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:58:23 PM, TBR wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

I find it sad that you cling to this notion, or the delusion you are going to reverse this. Your not, the ship has sailed. Time to move on to...
Just as I find it sad that you still believe marriage has changed . . . It hasn't. Perhaps it's time for you to move on.

It has. Open your eyes. This is not some opinion of mine, it is simple reality.
For the last time, marriage was established by God, not the government. God defined marriage as between a man and a woman.
I don't know, getting worked-up about people who wear mixed wool and linen.
I swear, people don't know what ceremonial laws are . . .

That's not true considering there was "marriage" before Christianity. Although, in regards to the Christian definition of marriage, some people have very different interpretations than you would ever have: https://en.wikipedia.org...
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4/6/2016 8:22:32 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 8:18:01 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/6/2016 8:12:02 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/5/2016 12:03:00 AM, TBR wrote:
At 4/5/2016 12:00:55 AM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:58:23 PM, TBR wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

I find it sad that you cling to this notion, or the delusion you are going to reverse this. Your not, the ship has sailed. Time to move on to...
Just as I find it sad that you still believe marriage has changed . . . It hasn't. Perhaps it's time for you to move on.

It has. Open your eyes. This is not some opinion of mine, it is simple reality.
For the last time, marriage was established by God, not the government. God defined marriage as between a man and a woman.
I don't know, getting worked-up about people who wear mixed wool and linen.
I swear, people don't know what ceremonial laws are . . .

That's not true considering there was "marriage" before Christianity.
God defined marriage in the beginning, so it would technically be incorrect to say that there was marriage before Christianity.
Although, in regards to the Christian definition of marriage, some people have very different interpretations than you would ever have: https://en.wikipedia.org...
Matthew 19:4. That's all those so-called "Christians" need to read.
Pro-Life Quotes:

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- Thomas Jefferson

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4/6/2016 9:43:26 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 8:22:32 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/6/2016 8:18:01 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/6/2016 8:12:02 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/5/2016 12:03:00 AM, TBR wrote:
At 4/5/2016 12:00:55 AM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:58:23 PM, TBR wrote:
At 4/4/2016 11:34:51 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/3/2016 11:28:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 4/3/2016 5:26:54 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 4/2/2016 3:07:51 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
The profligate Ted Cruz has another policy: the overturning of the recent SCOTUS decision to legalize gay marriage. Claiming this is a "front and center" issue (http://www.npr.org...), the man who is inferior to Trump believes gay marriage is 'Disastrous', and 'Fundamentally Illegitimate', even going so far as to call it a "crisis" (http://www.towleroad.com... http://thinkprogress.org...). Our God-Emperor, unlike Cruz's axis of conservatives, refused to pledge to repeal the gay marriage decision (http://www.gaystarnews.com...).

So, do you think that, if Cruz gets elected, he would be able to discriminate against the LGBT community and go as far as to repeal gay marriage? Would the SC be able to stop him? Would the public be able to stop him? Is the gay marriage debate over and is Cruz just beating a dead horse? Or is Cruz's policies preferable to you? Discuss
I find it hilarious how you actually think refusing to legalize same-sex "marriage" is discrimination. It's not, face reality. Marriage has (and always will be) defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" will always be an oxymoron.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is this sarcasm?
Why would this be sarcasm? Marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman, thus same-sex "marriage" would be considered an oxymoron.

I find it sad that you cling to this notion, or the delusion you are going to reverse this. Your not, the ship has sailed. Time to move on to...
Just as I find it sad that you still believe marriage has changed . . . It hasn't. Perhaps it's time for you to move on.

It has. Open your eyes. This is not some opinion of mine, it is simple reality.
For the last time, marriage was established by God, not the government. God defined marriage as between a man and a woman.
I don't know, getting worked-up about people who wear mixed wool and linen.
I swear, people don't know what ceremonial laws are . . .

That's not true considering there was "marriage" before Christianity.
God defined marriage in the beginning, so it would technically be incorrect to say that there was marriage before Christianity.

What? Christianity didn't happen till after Jesus Christ, and the definition and origin of marriage is European. Its not even a thousand years old, and its man made, just like the term Holy Matrimony, which describes marriage under God.

Argue away, but don't make things up. The original term for Holy Matrimony might have been something like FHGJFNKCHF, and I honestly don't know how well the definition would have been preserved.

Although, in regards to the Christian definition of marriage, some people have very different interpretations than you would ever have: https://en.wikipedia.org...
Matthew 19:4. That's all those so-called "Christians" need to read.
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