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Quadrunner
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4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed
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PetersSmith
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4/5/2016 9:30:07 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Donald J. Trump of the Trump Party.
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4/5/2016 9:54:41 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 9:30:07 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Donald J. Trump of the Trump Party.

DJ Trumpet and the Bullmoosecrap party.
Rigoletto
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4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva
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4/5/2016 11:48:07 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 9:54:41 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:30:07 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Donald J. Trump of the Trump Party.

DJ Trumpet and the Bullmoosecrap party.

Well played my friend
Greyparrot
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4/5/2016 11:58:36 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 11:48:07 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:54:41 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:30:07 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Donald J. Trump of the Trump Party.

DJ Trumpet and the Bullmoosecrap party.

Well played my friend

You're fired.
Rigoletto
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4/5/2016 11:59:12 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 11:58:36 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:48:07 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:54:41 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:30:07 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Donald J. Trump of the Trump Party.

DJ Trumpet and the Bullmoosecrap party.

Well played my friend

You're fired.

Why?
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 2:44:01 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed
Jill Stein of the Green Party
#ItsInOurHands
http://www.jill2016.com...
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.
Rigoletto
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4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 3:47:10 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.

Don't forget Stein
Rigoletto
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4/6/2016 3:53:26 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 3:47:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.

Don't forget Stein

I don't particularly care for her.
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 3:54:20 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 3:53:26 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:47:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.

Don't forget Stein

I don't particularly care for her.

Why is that?
Rigoletto
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4/6/2016 3:58:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 3:54:20 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:53:26 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:47:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.

Don't forget Stein

I don't particularly care for her.

Why is that?

Congruent to her party, she's too focused on the environment. Single issue candidates aren't appealing. Sanders and La Riva are both more balanced.
ShabShoral
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4/6/2016 4:15:37 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Gary Johnson, obviously.
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4/6/2016 4:17:01 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 4:15:37 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
Gary Johnson, obviously.

Why are there so many libertarians on this site?
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4/6/2016 4:21:38 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 4:17:01 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 4:15:37 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
Gary Johnson, obviously.

Why are there so many libertarians on this site?

Because those willing to expose their ideas to criticism often end with only those ideas which actually hold water.
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"Your idea of good writing is like Spinoza mixed with Heidegger."

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Rigoletto
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4/6/2016 4:22:30 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 4:21:38 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 4/6/2016 4:17:01 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 4:15:37 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
Gary Johnson, obviously.

Why are there so many libertarians on this site?

Because those willing to expose their ideas to criticism often end with only those ideas which actually hold water.

Less government is never the answer.
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4/6/2016 4:25:04 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 4:15:37 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
Gary Johnson, obviously.
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4/6/2016 4:38:46 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 4:22:30 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 4:21:38 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 4/6/2016 4:17:01 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 4:15:37 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
Gary Johnson, obviously.

Why are there so many libertarians on this site?

Because those willing to expose their ideas to criticism often end with only those ideas which actually hold water.

Less government is never the answer.

Less bad government is always preferable to more good government in a democracy. The opposite is true in a authoritarian dictatorship.
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 5:55:04 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 3:58:42 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:54:20 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:53:26 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:47:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.

Don't forget Stein

I don't particularly care for her.

Why is that?

Congruent to her party, she's too focused on the environment. Single issue candidates aren't appealing. Sanders and La Riva are both more balanced.

Her platform is much more expensive than just the environment. She has made Racial Justice, Foreign Policy and Student Loan Debt Central to her campaign.
Read her plan. While the environment is a significant point in her campaign, she only has two points on that issue in her plan, and one of them has just as much to do with jobs and infrastructure as it does with Climate Change.
http://www.jill2016.com...
Rigoletto
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4/6/2016 6:00:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 5:55:04 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:58:42 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:54:20 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:53:26 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:47:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.

Don't forget Stein

I don't particularly care for her.

Why is that?

Congruent to her party, she's too focused on the environment. Single issue candidates aren't appealing. Sanders and La Riva are both more balanced.

Her platform is much more expensive than just the environment. She has made Racial Justice, Foreign Policy and Student Loan Debt Central to her campaign.
Read her plan. While the environment is a significant point in her campaign, she only has two points on that issue in her plan, and one of them has just as much to do with jobs and infrastructure as it does with Climate Change.
http://www.jill2016.com...

Oh, I've checked it out. I just think she's too focused on the environment, and the logistics of her other plans don't make as much sense as Sanders' and La Riva's
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 7:17:46 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 6:00:53 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 5:55:04 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:58:42 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:54:20 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:53:26 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:47:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.

Don't forget Stein

I don't particularly care for her.

Why is that?

Congruent to her party, she's too focused on the environment. Single issue candidates aren't appealing. Sanders and La Riva are both more balanced.

Her platform is much more expensive than just the environment. She has made Racial Justice, Foreign Policy and Student Loan Debt Central to her campaign.
Read her plan. While the environment is a significant point in her campaign, she only has two points on that issue in her plan, and one of them has just as much to do with jobs and infrastructure as it does with Climate Change.
http://www.jill2016.com...

Oh, I've checked it out. I just think she's too focused on the environment, and the logistics of her other plans don't make as much sense as Sanders' and La Riva's

I am looking at her plan, and the first issue on there, and the issue with the most detail is "For the Earth to live, Capitalism must end". She has much of the same stance as Stein on this. Much of their platforms are the same.
But I will give you a few reasons I would place Stein over La Riva as my choice.
1) Stein has a greater platform than La Riva and greater access to the media than La Riva. While the Media does, by and large, block out third parties, Stein has appeared on RT America on numerous occasions, has appeared on Democracy Now regularly and she has been interviewed by John Fugelsang, Abby Martin, Alan Colmes, the Young Turks, and Jesse Ventura. She has made several appearances on Major networks, including CNN and NBC, and had more coverage from many media outlets. Stein has also much more international coverage, appearing on Sputnik: Orbiting the world with George Galloway, on RT UK, attended an RT conference in Moscow, where she met with Vladimir Putin, attended the Paris Climate Summit, where she met with Jeremy Corbyn, Caroline Lucas, and others, and recently she spoke before the Oxford Union.
2) Stein (and the Green party) will appear on the ballot in many more states than La Riva and the PSL. The GPUS will appear on the ballot (as of now) in 24 states and will likely gain several more states by November. PSL is on the ballot in 1 state (Florida) and is unlikely to gain more.
Rigoletto
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4/6/2016 7:21:14 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 7:17:46 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:00:53 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 5:55:04 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:58:42 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:54:20 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:53:26 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:47:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:39:49 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/6/2016 3:35:19 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/5/2016 11:47:35 PM, Rigoletto wrote:
At 4/5/2016 9:29:11 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
Who's your favorite presidential candidate so far- No Republican or Democrat candidates allowed

Gloria La Riva

I met Gloria La Riva at the Protest against AIPAC in DC last month. Her overall ideology is a little nutty for my taste, but on actual policies, we agree on most things.

She'll do what's best for the country... aside from Sanders, of course.

Don't forget Stein

I don't particularly care for her.

Why is that?

Congruent to her party, she's too focused on the environment. Single issue candidates aren't appealing. Sanders and La Riva are both more balanced.

Her platform is much more expensive than just the environment. She has made Racial Justice, Foreign Policy and Student Loan Debt Central to her campaign.
Read her plan. While the environment is a significant point in her campaign, she only has two points on that issue in her plan, and one of them has just as much to do with jobs and infrastructure as it does with Climate Change.
http://www.jill2016.com...

Oh, I've checked it out. I just think she's too focused on the environment, and the logistics of her other plans don't make as much sense as Sanders' and La Riva's

I am looking at her plan, and the first issue on there, and the issue with the most detail is "For the Earth to live, Capitalism must end". She has much of the same stance as Stein on this. Much of their platforms are the same.

I agree, they are very similar. Yet, I still like La Riva's outline better.

But I will give you a few reasons I would place Stein over La Riva as my choice.
1) Stein has a greater platform than La Riva and greater access to the media than La Riva. While the Media does, by and large, block out third parties, Stein has appeared on RT America on numerous occasions, has appeared on Democracy Now regularly and she has been interviewed by John Fugelsang, Abby Martin, Alan Colmes, the Young Turks, and Jesse Ventura. She has made several appearances on Major networks, including CNN and NBC, and had more coverage from many media outlets. Stein has also much more international coverage, appearing on Sputnik: Orbiting the world with George Galloway, on RT UK, attended an RT conference in Moscow, where she met with Vladimir Putin, attended the Paris Climate Summit, where she met with Jeremy Corbyn, Caroline Lucas, and others, and recently she spoke before the Oxford Union.

She has more popularity, so there'd be a greater chance I would hypothetically vote for her, but I still like La Riva better. Popularity doesn't matter.

2) Stein (and the Green party) will appear on the ballot in many more states than La Riva and the PSL. The GPUS will appear on the ballot (as of now) in 24 states and will likely gain several more states by November. PSL is on the ballot in 1 state (Florida) and is unlikely to gain more.

Still, like I said above, popularity (of candidate and party) does not matter. I still like La Riva's policy explanations and things better.