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brontoraptor
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4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 2:15:27 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.

1) No, that's not how socialism works.
2) I am a Sanders supporter because I am a socialist, not vice versa
3) Please read this website and the info it provides on Democratic Socialism, it may clarify a few things
http://www.dsausa.org...
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4/6/2016 2:31:51 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:15:27 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.

1) No, that's not how socialism works.
2) I am a Sanders supporter because I am a socialist, not vice versa
3) Please read this website and the info it provides on Democratic Socialism, it may clarify a few things
http://www.dsausa.org...

There is nothing democratic about Socialism by definition. It's an oxymoron.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 2:35:08 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:31:51 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:15:27 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.

1) No, that's not how socialism works.
2) I am a Sanders supporter because I am a socialist, not vice versa
3) Please read this website and the info it provides on Democratic Socialism, it may clarify a few things
http://www.dsausa.org...

There is nothing democratic about Socialism by definition. It's an oxymoron.

The democratic/cooperative control of the means of production alongside a democratic governmental structure sounds pretty democratic to me
The-Voice-of-Truth
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4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
https://www.youtube.com...
Suh dude

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4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff

PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread
The-Voice-of-Truth
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4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 2:46:13 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Ah, I see. Here is the link for you
https://www.youtube.com...
vortex86
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4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 2:56:01 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

Https usually works
The-Voice-of-Truth
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4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.
Suh dude

"Because we all know who the most important snowflake in the wasteland is... It's YOU, champ! You're a special snowflake." -Vaarka, 01:30 in the hangouts

"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
BrendanD19
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4/6/2016 6:04:03 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.

Have you been able to watch the video?
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4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 6:04:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.

Have you been able to watch the video?

Are you anti fascist?
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4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:04:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.

Have you been able to watch the video?

Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?
TBR
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4/6/2016 7:22:06 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.

I support sanders, and have no real issue with the super delegates.
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4/6/2016 8:26:59 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:31:51 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:15:27 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.

1) No, that's not how socialism works.
2) I am a Sanders supporter because I am a socialist, not vice versa
3) Please read this website and the info it provides on Democratic Socialism, it may clarify a few things
http://www.dsausa.org...

There is nothing democratic about Socialism by definition. It's an oxymoron.

Explain socialism.
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4/6/2016 9:13:39 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 8:26:59 PM, stealspell wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:31:51 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:15:27 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.

1) No, that's not how socialism works.
2) I am a Sanders supporter because I am a socialist, not vice versa
3) Please read this website and the info it provides on Democratic Socialism, it may clarify a few things
http://www.dsausa.org...

There is nothing democratic about Socialism by definition. It's an oxymoron.

Explain socialism.

+1
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4/6/2016 10:13:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
When will the day come that Americans stop to think Sanders is a socialist in the sense of the USSR's socialism?
He proposes stuff that has worked in Europe for decades without anyone there claiming the policies to be "socialist".
Call him what you want, but stop the ridiculous equivocations.
: At 7/2/2016 3:05:07 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
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: space contradicts logic
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4/6/2016 11:36:30 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:04:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.

Have you been able to watch the video?

Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?

I'm a fascist though :'(

Do you hate me?
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4/6/2016 11:42:56 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 11:36:30 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:04:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.

Have you been able to watch the video?

Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?

I'm a fascist though :'(

Do you hate me?

You've Kept your fascist leanings on the DL, where they belong
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4/7/2016 12:13:43 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.

As soon as I saw the thread title and author I thought to myself, "Prepare to lose a few brain cells"...

Yep, I was right.
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4/7/2016 11:47:44 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 11:42:56 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:36:30 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:04:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.

Have you been able to watch the video?

Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?

I'm a fascist though :'(

Do you hate me?

You've Kept your fascist leanings on the DL, where they belong

Heil hitler
DDO History Revival Officer
Fuher of the Reich

"I'm not Asian"-Vaarka

"I would rather have a fascist than a socialist in office"- Bball

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4/7/2016 12:43:40 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/7/2016 11:47:44 AM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:42:56 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:36:30 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:04:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.

Have you been able to watch the video?

Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?

I'm a fascist though :'(

Do you hate me?

You've Kept your fascist leanings on the DL, where they belong

Heil hitler

Fvck you
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4/7/2016 1:52:04 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 10:13:49 PM, Fkkize wrote:
When will the day come that Americans stop to think Sanders is a socialist in the sense of the USSR's socialism?
He proposes stuff that has worked in Europe for decades without anyone there claiming the policies to be "socialist".
Call him what you want, but stop the ridiculous equivocations.

That day will come if/when all Americans finally realize Fox is not the most credible source for news.
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4/7/2016 2:25:08 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/7/2016 12:43:40 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/7/2016 11:47:44 AM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:42:56 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:36:30 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:04:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:56:33 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:49:58 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:44:25 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:42:08 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:37:56 PM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

And to counter that I will present you with Economics Professor Richard Wolff


PS if you remove the S from the https it allows the video to be posted in the thread

I know, this is easier for me since the video won't show up because youtube is blocked by my school. If the link is there, then I can convert it.

Can you get the URL from the embed code when you view source? Or depending on the browser right clicking on the video (IE copy video URL, chrome variants inspect element) not sure to what level it is blocked.

No. The IT guys at my school are pretty good. They use me as a "test subject," if you will, since I always find ways around their restrictions. It's just a game to me.

Have you been able to watch the video?

Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?

I'm a fascist though :'(

Do you hate me?

You've Kept your fascist leanings on the DL, where they belong

Heil hitler

Fvck you

Im surprised you hate the nazis so much. They were socialists like you and me
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4/7/2016 4:11:30 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
I don't necessarily see the problem being that Sanders is a self-avowed socialist, although that does carry with it a certain negative stigma. The problem is he is promising so many things that he has virtually zero chance of getting done, and for good reason.

His banter that everything is the fault of the rich and that the "system" is completely rigged and that people are entitled to everything for free is delusional at best. Not to mention he is basically arguing in a circle the entire time he speaks.

He speaks of all of the "privilege" the wealthy, white people have. So we should rightly expect him to give his up any day now right?

He has also missed 4 times the average number of votes (4.9% to 1.6%) as a sitting senator.

The one thing I do like about him is that he has introduced several bills to improve the care veterans receive, such as the Ensuring Veterans Access to Care Act of 2014.

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BrendanD19
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4/7/2016 4:34:45 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/7/2016 2:25:08 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/7/2016 12:43:40 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/7/2016 11:47:44 AM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:42:56 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:36:30 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?

I'm a fascist though :'(

Do you hate me?

You've Kept your fascist leanings on the DL, where they belong

Heil hitler

Fvck you

Im surprised you hate the nazis so much. They were socialists like you and me

Nazis were only socialists in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. It calls itself a democracy, so it must be. Oh wait, the DPRK is a totalitarian state.
How do I know they were not socialists?
In his magisterial history of the Third Reich, historian Richard Evans is quite clear on whether or not the Nazis were socialists, saying ""it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism."
In Chapter 7 of Mein Kampf, Hitler stated the following:
"The suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists.
"We chose red for our posters after particular and careful deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings " if only in order to break them up " so that in this way we got a chance of talking to the people. "
These quotes show that Hitler intended to appear as socialists in order to break them up so the left would be weaker and the nationalists would be stronger.
And if the Nazis were socialists, why did they eliminate every other Left Wing organization in the country and brutally suppress them? The Anarchists, communists, Socialists and Trade Unionists were all brutally suppressed by the Nazi regime.
Also, the (so-called) "left wing" Strasserist faction of the NSDAP was brutally suppressed by the Hitlerite faction of the party in order to keep the support of German industrialists, who wanted to crush the socialists and communists and saw the nazis as the best way of doing that.
And Hitler privatized large sections of the German economy, far more than he nationalized. This is not exactly socialist.
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4/7/2016 10:53:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/7/2016 4:34:45 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/7/2016 2:25:08 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/7/2016 12:43:40 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/7/2016 11:47:44 AM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:42:56 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:36:30 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?

I'm a fascist though :'(

Do you hate me?

You've Kept your fascist leanings on the DL, where they belong

Heil hitler

Fvck you

Im surprised you hate the nazis so much. They were socialists like you and me

Nazis were only socialists in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. It calls itself a democracy, so it must be. Oh wait, the DPRK is a totalitarian state.
How do I know they were not socialists?
In his magisterial history of the Third Reich, historian Richard Evans is quite clear on whether or not the Nazis were socialists, saying ""it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism."
In Chapter 7 of Mein Kampf, Hitler stated the following:
"The suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists.
"We chose red for our posters after particular and careful deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings " if only in order to break them up " so that in this way we got a chance of talking to the people. "
These quotes show that Hitler intended to appear as socialists in order to break them up so the left would be weaker and the nationalists would be stronger.
And if the Nazis were socialists, why did they eliminate every other Left Wing organization in the country and brutally suppress them? The Anarchists, communists, Socialists and Trade Unionists were all brutally suppressed by the Nazi regime.
Also, the (so-called) "left wing" Strasserist faction of the NSDAP was brutally suppressed by the Hitlerite faction of the party in order to keep the support of German industrialists, who wanted to crush the socialists and communists and saw the nazis as the best way of doing that.
And Hitler privatized large sections of the German economy, far more than he nationalized. This is not exactly socialist.

They were national socialists and Hitler wasn't the founder of national socialsm
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BrendanD19
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4/8/2016 2:44:40 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/7/2016 10:53:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/7/2016 4:34:45 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/7/2016 2:25:08 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/7/2016 12:43:40 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/7/2016 11:47:44 AM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:42:56 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:36:30 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 4/6/2016 7:13:10 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 6:23:36 PM, Reformist wrote:
Are you anti fascist?

Obviously
What does the quote say?

I'm a fascist though :'(

Do you hate me?

You've Kept your fascist leanings on the DL, where they belong

Heil hitler

Fvck you

Im surprised you hate the nazis so much. They were socialists like you and me

Nazis were only socialists in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. It calls itself a democracy, so it must be. Oh wait, the DPRK is a totalitarian state.
How do I know they were not socialists?
In his magisterial history of the Third Reich, historian Richard Evans is quite clear on whether or not the Nazis were socialists, saying ""it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism."
In Chapter 7 of Mein Kampf, Hitler stated the following:
"The suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists.
"We chose red for our posters after particular and careful deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings " if only in order to break them up " so that in this way we got a chance of talking to the people. "
These quotes show that Hitler intended to appear as socialists in order to break them up so the left would be weaker and the nationalists would be stronger.
And if the Nazis were socialists, why did they eliminate every other Left Wing organization in the country and brutally suppress them? The Anarchists, communists, Socialists and Trade Unionists were all brutally suppressed by the Nazi regime.
Also, the (so-called) "left wing" Strasserist faction of the NSDAP was brutally suppressed by the Hitlerite faction of the party in order to keep the support of German industrialists, who wanted to crush the socialists and communists and saw the nazis as the best way of doing that.
And Hitler privatized large sections of the German economy, far more than he nationalized. This is not exactly socialist.

They were national socialists and Hitler wasn't the founder of national socialsm

Again, they were socialists in the same way the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy.
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4/8/2016 4:53:57 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/6/2016 2:31:51 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/6/2016 2:15:27 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 4/6/2016 11:40:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Sanders is further behind than he should be. Delegate for delegate he is not all that far behind. The superdelegates of the Democrat establishment are deciding the nominee. So...there it is. That's how Socialism works. The establishment chooses your leaders for you.

1) No, that's not how socialism works.
2) I am a Sanders supporter because I am a socialist, not vice versa
3) Please read this website and the info it provides on Democratic Socialism, it may clarify a few things
http://www.dsausa.org...

There is nothing democratic about Socialism by definition. It's an oxymoron.

Democratic Socialism is simply deciding that because you have majority vote, you can rule the lives of all others that may not agree to having half their income confiscated.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.