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4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
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The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.
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4/17/2016 5:40:17 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

Only when this reaches 90+% can we safely say we have achieved world peace.
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4/17/2016 5:54:16 AM
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At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

This is very interesting. I wonder how much money would be saved by cutting all these unneeded bases. It must be a lot
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4/17/2016 7:23:37 AM
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At 4/17/2016 5:54:16 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

This is very interesting. I wonder how much money would be saved by cutting all these unneeded bases. It must be a lot

Actually alot more than a lot. Hillary will preserve the war machine though, don't worry.
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4/17/2016 5:20:12 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

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4/17/2016 11:22:34 PM
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According to the social contract crowd, you have a contract for defense and elected leadership knows what they are doing, so sit down and shut up about waste.
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4/18/2016 4:42:23 AM
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At 4/17/2016 5:54:16 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

This is very interesting. I wonder how much money would be saved by cutting all these unneeded bases. It must be a lot

Well a big chunk of defense spending goes to contractors to actually invent new weapons or crank out ones that already exist. I think actual construction and maintenence of military bases ranks lower on the list in terms of overall defense spending.

Still, judging from just how much the US spends on the military, im sure that cuts to excess bases would save tens of millions at the least in the long run
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4/18/2016 9:06:23 PM
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At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

Base closing is loathed by congressmen. Want to know how to destroy the local economy of some sh1tvill? Close the base.
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4/18/2016 9:11:28 PM
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At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

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4/18/2016 9:26:41 PM
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I would like to know, specifically, which Air Bases are considered "excess". Unfortunately, the article doesn't provide me with this. But I do agree that there are a number of bases that could be closed down because they're essentially there for overseas training purposes (we can stay strictly stateside for this) and "strategic locati0ns" that aren't necessarily strategic. Sometimes the DoD doesn't realize the issues it creates until it shuts a base down and sends the workload elsewhere, which is a huge and different issue in itself.

I'll touch on the Air Force issues a little here since I can't speak for the Marines (but we do have a Marine member here somewhere, but his name escapes me), Navy, or Army. While a lot of the bases are considered excess the DoD has an issue with shutting these excess Air Bases down but spreading the workload out. The Air Force is the smallest its been since its separation from the Army. But the Air Force is still maintaining a similar workload. The Air Force will downsize but the DoD will not downsize its force/workload with it. They're cutting manning and occasionally closing bases but spreading the work out among the Air Force instead of cutting the work in addition with the downsizing. So they're mitigating the burden of a full on air base on the budget but not outright eliminating it by getting rid of the work that was associated with the base.

Some of the bases are legitimately in strategic locations. Specifically, the three in Japan serve to keep an eye on N. Korea should things go south in the Pacific region. These are some of the bases that are just sitting and waiting for something to happen before they do anything. They also serve as contingency response bases for natural disasters. For example, the massive earthquake that hit Japan and the following Tsunami. This gave birth to Operation Tomodachi. Off the top of my head I can't name one of the useless "strategic bases" because I haven't personally been to one yet and haven't talked with people who have. But there are some like the ones in Japan that serve an actual purpose in strategic location with allies and against enemies.
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4/18/2016 9:28:27 PM
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At 4/18/2016 9:06:23 PM, TBR wrote:
At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:

Base closing is loathed by congressmen. Want to know how to destroy the local economy of some sh1tvill? Close the base.

This is 100% correct. A lot of sh1tty towns only/main source of income are military bases and will literally become ghost towns if you shut the base down. It's a really tough decision to make politically and typically one that will alienate a part of your voter base.
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4/18/2016 10:46:47 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

There's a very simple reason for that: the U.S. Military is shrinking. During the Cold War there were millions of personnel. Today that number is 1.3 million.
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4/19/2016 12:39:10 PM
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At 4/18/2016 9:06:23 PM, TBR wrote:
At 4/17/2016 4:16:35 AM, imabench wrote:
http://www.upi.com...

The Pentagon, the nerve center of the military-industrial complex of the United States, has released a report saying that in just 3 years from now, just over 1 in 5 US military bases will not be needed or will be serving no valuable function, calling it 'excess'.

Only 7% of Naval bases are considered excess in the report, but unneeded bases that are currently operated by the Army is at 33 percent, and the Air Force is in a close second at 32 percent.

While some can point to this report as evidence that military spending should be reduced, Im actually very surprised at how much the Navy genuinely needs its bases compared to the Air Force and the Army. The report says that 93% of navy bases are needed or are serving some sort of function, an A- on a grading scale, while only 66% of Air Force and Army bases are serving a function, which is equal to a D..... So while you can claim the military needs to reduce spending in some areas by the Pentagon's own admission, the Navy shouldnt be the one facing the budget cuts.

Base closing is loathed by congressmen. Want to know how to destroy the local economy of some sh1tvill? Close the base.

The report didnt say that all the bases examined were just ones in the US.... And if I know the US military like I think I know the US military, a lot of these bases are overseas on the other side of the world
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