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musicalone
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4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?
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4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot.
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4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.
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4/24/2016 6:14:30 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

When you get down to the brass tacks of it all, the people only really have control over picking the worst of two evils. The influence and infrastructure of our current two party system prohibits anyone from outside this system from running, so the status quo continues. We lost our real democracy decades ago.
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4/24/2016 6:14:52 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Well, the democrats stole the election from Bernie Sanders. The republicans don't want Trump in, but because he is winning by such a landslide among republicans, they realized that they aren't going to be able to get away with stealing the vote.

It's a shame too, because I would have rather seen Trump debating Sanders than Hilary.
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4/24/2016 6:19:59 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
It's almost as if the elite class doesn't care about the 99% and would rather sacrifice democracy for the sake of their own personal gain! Golly!
"We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered." -MLK Jr
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4/24/2016 6:20:41 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:14:30 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

When you get down to the brass tacks of it all, the people only really have control over picking the worst of two evils. The influence and infrastructure of our current two party system prohibits anyone from outside this system from running, so the status quo continues. We lost our real democracy decades ago. : :

Who is controlling the two parties?
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4/24/2016 6:21:43 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:14:52 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Well, the democrats stole the election from Bernie Sanders. The republicans don't want Trump in, but because he is winning by such a landslide among republicans, they realized that they aren't going to be able to get away with stealing the vote.

It's a shame too, because I would have rather seen Trump debating Sanders than Hilary. : :

Who is in control of the democrats and republicans?
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4/24/2016 6:22:37 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:14:52 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Well, the democrats stole the election from Bernie Sanders. The republicans don't want Trump in, but because he is winning by such a landslide among republicans, they realized that they aren't going to be able to get away with stealing the vote.

It's a shame too, because I would have rather seen Trump debating Sanders than Hilary.

I would have like to seen that debate as well. I think Bernie could stand up to Trump better than Hillary.
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4/24/2016 6:22:37 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:19:59 PM, bhakun wrote:
It's almost as if the elite class doesn't care about the 99% and would rather sacrifice democracy for the sake of their own personal gain! Golly! : :

What controls the elite class?
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4/24/2016 6:23:18 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:19:59 PM, bhakun wrote:
It's almost as if the elite class doesn't care about the 99% and would rather sacrifice democracy for the sake of their own personal gain! Golly!

You caught on.
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4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it.
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4/24/2016 6:24:17 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:22:37 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:19:59 PM, bhakun wrote:
It's almost as if the elite class doesn't care about the 99% and would rather sacrifice democracy for the sake of their own personal gain! Golly! : :

What controls the elite class?

The lizard people.
"We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered." -MLK Jr
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4/24/2016 6:25:18 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it. : :

What is in control of each voter?
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4/24/2016 6:25:33 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:20:41 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:14:30 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

When you get down to the brass tacks of it all, the people only really have control over picking the worst of two evils. The influence and infrastructure of our current two party system prohibits anyone from outside this system from running, so the status quo continues. We lost our real democracy decades ago. : :

Who is controlling the two parties?

Big business and the financial industry. We are an oligarchy.
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4/24/2016 6:26:02 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:25:18 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it. : :

What is in control of each voter?

Nothing
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4/24/2016 6:26:26 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:24:17 PM, bhakun wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:22:37 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:19:59 PM, bhakun wrote:
It's almost as if the elite class doesn't care about the 99% and would rather sacrifice democracy for the sake of their own personal gain! Golly! : :

What controls the elite class?

The lizard people. : :

You've been listening to David Icke too long.
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4/24/2016 6:27:34 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:25:33 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:20:41 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:14:30 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

When you get down to the brass tacks of it all, the people only really have control over picking the worst of two evils. The influence and infrastructure of our current two party system prohibits anyone from outside this system from running, so the status quo continues. We lost our real democracy decades ago. : :

Who is controlling the two parties?

Big business and the financial industry. We are an oligarchy. : :

What controls big business and the financial industry? Can't you understand where I'm going with these questions?
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4/24/2016 6:27:44 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it.

The original point was how do these candidates become candidates, it's an internal selection process of the parties.
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4/24/2016 6:28:33 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:26:02 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:25:18 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it. : :

What is in control of each voter?

Nothing : :

That's a lie. Where does each voter get their thoughts from?
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4/24/2016 6:29:12 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:27:44 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it.

The original point was how do these candidates become candidates, it's an internal selection process of the parties.

No, it wasn't. Re-read the initial question. How did US citizens - not parties - choose the most hated candidates? Answer: they must not be the most hated.
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4/24/2016 6:29:51 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:27:44 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it.

The original point was how do these candidates become candidates, it's an internal selection process of the parties. : :

No. The original point was to show you that we're not in control of anything that is going on.
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4/24/2016 6:30:15 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:28:33 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:26:02 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:25:18 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it. : :

What is in control of each voter?

Nothing : :

That's a lie. Where does each voter get their thoughts from?

That's the truth. No one but the voter is responsible for how they vote. There are any number of factors which may influence a voter, but nothing controls them. Except themselves.
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4/24/2016 6:30:17 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:27:34 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:25:33 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:20:41 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:14:30 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

When you get down to the brass tacks of it all, the people only really have control over picking the worst of two evils. The influence and infrastructure of our current two party system prohibits anyone from outside this system from running, so the status quo continues. We lost our real democracy decades ago. : :

Who is controlling the two parties?

Big business and the financial industry. We are an oligarchy. : :

What controls big business and the financial industry? Can't you understand where I'm going with these questions?

The hell do you think?

MONEY
"We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered." -MLK Jr
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4/24/2016 6:30:32 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:27:34 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:25:33 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:20:41 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:14:30 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

When you get down to the brass tacks of it all, the people only really have control over picking the worst of two evils. The influence and infrastructure of our current two party system prohibits anyone from outside this system from running, so the status quo continues. We lost our real democracy decades ago. : :

Who is controlling the two parties?

Big business and the financial industry. We are an oligarchy. : :

What controls big business and the financial industry? Can't you understand where I'm going with these questions?

Nothing controls big business and the financial industry. Their goal is to make money and keep as much of it a possible. They promote candidates that will move forward this agenda.
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4/24/2016 6:32:12 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:21:43 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:14:52 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Well, the democrats stole the election from Bernie Sanders. The republicans don't want Trump in, but because he is winning by such a landslide among republicans, they realized that they aren't going to be able to get away with stealing the vote.

It's a shame too, because I would have rather seen Trump debating Sanders than Hilary. : :

Who is in control of the democrats and republicans?

Ah, if it was easy to trace, they wouldn't be doing it right.

I'm just going to say Satan. That covers a lot of ground. It's also inflammatory enough to be appropriate for political discussion.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/24/2016 6:37:02 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:28:33 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:26:02 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:25:18 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it. : :

What is in control of each voter?

Nothing : :

That's a lie. Where does each voter get their thoughts from?

The media is big business which has its fingers into everything, or is a subsidiary of a larger diversified entity. They set the agenda and mass communicate it. Most voters swallow it hook line and sinker. Most voters do not do the in depth study necessary to get down to the real truth of the issues. True journalism and reporting is a dead art. Media is now the artfulness of persuasion.
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4/24/2016 6:41:22 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:32:12 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:21:43 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:14:52 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Well, the democrats stole the election from Bernie Sanders. The republicans don't want Trump in, but because he is winning by such a landslide among republicans, they realized that they aren't going to be able to get away with stealing the vote.

It's a shame too, because I would have rather seen Trump debating Sanders than Hilary. : :

Who is in control of the democrats and republicans?

Ah, if it was easy to trace, they wouldn't be doing it right.

I'm just going to say Satan. That covers a lot of ground. It's also inflammatory enough to be appropriate for political discussion.

If this discussion is going to move into religious dogma, I'm out.
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4/24/2016 6:44:48 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:29:12 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:27:44 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:23:39 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

If more people voted for Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, etc, they'd be winning. Most people aren't voting for them. That's it.

The original point was how do these candidates become candidates, it's an internal selection process of the parties.

No, it wasn't. Re-read the initial question. How did US citizens - not parties - choose the most hated candidates? Answer: they must not be the most hated.

They are who is presented by the parties. They don't care if they have an appeal to the American public. They only care about their respective agendas. So we are stuck voting for the lesser of two evils.
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4/24/2016 6:53:56 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/24/2016 6:27:34 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:25:33 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:20:41 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:14:30 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:09:54 PM, musicalone wrote:
At 4/24/2016 6:07:21 PM, Peepette wrote:
At 4/24/2016 5:48:14 PM, musicalone wrote:
It's hard to believe that U.S. citizens have chosen the leading U.S. presidential candidates ( Clinton and Trump ) even though they're hated by the majority of U.S. citizens. How did that happen?

The political parties put forth who they wish to run, so the options for the public are always narrow. In the case of Trump, he's for the most part, self funding, otherwise I don't think a buffoon like this would have otherwise made it this far. The republicans didn't push him into the forefront. They shot themselves in the foot. : :

Do you get the idea that nothing is in our control? It should be easy to see during this presidential campaign but most people will not understand this.

When you get down to the brass tacks of it all, the people only really have control over picking the worst of two evils. The influence and infrastructure of our current two party system prohibits anyone from outside this system from running, so the status quo continues. We lost our real democracy decades ago. : :

Who is controlling the two parties?

Big business and the financial industry. We are an oligarchy. : :

What controls big business and the financial industry? Can't you understand where I'm going with these questions?

I guess I'm missing something. Did I fail to read between some lines?