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5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)
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5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?
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5/11/2016 8:24:44 AM
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yes, more of this. a million better than a proimmigrationist!
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5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people
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5/11/2016 2:26:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

I don't think Trump has the time nor the reason to do extensive checks on delegates.
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5/11/2016 2:48:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

What makes you think Trump hired this person? Do you understand how delegates work?
Where we are, on Trump:

http://www.debate.org...
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5/11/2016 3:32:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 2:48:48 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

What makes you think Trump hired this person? Do you understand how delegates work?

Lol!

Nationalism is a bad thing if you're an invader.
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5/11/2016 3:36:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
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5/11/2016 3:42:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 2:48:48 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

What makes you think Trump hired this person? Do you understand how delegates work?

He didn't directly hire, no. And he shouldn't - that's a responsibility you delegate. However, he clearly did not hire the best delegate scouts. This is something so blatantly obvious that it should be an immediate disqualifier. I can guarantee you any other campaign finds someone like this, they don't let them in.

Trump, as President, would be responsible for hiring many people overseeing many things. Because he's not shown himself to be good at this, I am genuinely concerned we might see the most corrupt administration since Harding - and, like Harding, it wouldn't be intentional. I would just be surrounding yourself with bad people.
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5/11/2016 3:43:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 2:26:21 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

I don't think Trump has the time nor the reason to do extensive checks on delegates.

His campaign does... but this is why he was so bad with delegates. I still don't think he understands how they work.
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5/11/2016 3:45:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 3:42:51 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:48:48 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

What makes you think Trump hired this person? Do you understand how delegates work?

He didn't directly hire, no. And he shouldn't - that's a responsibility you delegate. However, he clearly did not hire the best delegate scouts. This is something so blatantly obvious that it should be an immediate disqualifier. I can guarantee you any other campaign finds someone like this, they don't let them in.

Trump, as President, would be responsible for hiring many people overseeing many things. Because he's not shown himself to be good at this, I am genuinely concerned we might see the most corrupt administration since Harding - and, like Harding, it wouldn't be intentional. I would just be surrounding yourself with bad people.

Do you know how stupid that argument sounds?
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5/11/2016 4:08:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 3:42:51 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:48:48 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

What makes you think Trump hired this person? Do you understand how delegates work?

He didn't directly hire, no. And he shouldn't - that's a responsibility you delegate. However, he clearly did not hire the best delegate scouts. This is something so blatantly obvious that it should be an immediate disqualifier. I can guarantee you any other campaign finds someone like this, they don't let them in.

Trump, as President, would be responsible for hiring many people overseeing many things. Because he's not shown himself to be good at this, I am genuinely concerned we might see the most corrupt administration since Harding - and, like Harding, it wouldn't be intentional. I would just be surrounding yourself with bad people.

How could you possibly compare appointing a nationalist (which is what Trump wants) with Harding's appointments????
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5/11/2016 4:20:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Don't let them beat you up too much.

1) This is the stuff campaigns hate. Trump does not get a pass, no other candidate would.
2) He does have a terrible ground game. He seems unwilling or incapable of assembling a proper team, and that has meaning for the general and for a potential presidency.
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5/11/2016 4:23:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 4:20:42 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Don't let them beat you up too much.

1) This is the stuff campaigns hate. Trump does not get a pass, no other candidate would.
You mean like the unvetted Rev. Wright?
It was trivial for Obama, and so is this.
2) He does have a terrible ground game. He seems unwilling or incapable of assembling a proper team, and that has meaning for the general and for a potential presidency.
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5/11/2016 4:27:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 3:45:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 3:42:51 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:48:48 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

What makes you think Trump hired this person? Do you understand how delegates work?

He didn't directly hire, no. And he shouldn't - that's a responsibility you delegate. However, he clearly did not hire the best delegate scouts. This is something so blatantly obvious that it should be an immediate disqualifier. I can guarantee you any other campaign finds someone like this, they don't let them in.

Trump, as President, would be responsible for hiring many people overseeing many things. Because he's not shown himself to be good at this, I am genuinely concerned we might see the most corrupt administration since Harding - and, like Harding, it wouldn't be intentional. I would just be surrounding yourself with bad people.

Do you know how stupid that argument sounds?

Hooray for cherry-picking evaluations. If that was the case in the real world, nobody would have a job, ever.
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5/11/2016 4:30:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 4:23:13 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:20:42 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Don't let them beat you up too much.

1) This is the stuff campaigns hate. Trump does not get a pass, no other candidate would.
You mean like the unvetted Rev. Wright?
Right.

It was trivial for Obama, and so is this.
It was not. You are still talking about it.

2) He does have a terrible ground game. He seems unwilling or incapable of assembling a proper team, and that has meaning for the general and for a potential presidency.

Look. Trump gets to skate on lots of stuff, but this is the general. He is not going to get the walk he had with those looser he beat.
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5/11/2016 4:43:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 4:30:59 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:23:13 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:20:42 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Don't let them beat you up too much.

1) This is the stuff campaigns hate. Trump does not get a pass, no other candidate would.
You mean like the unvetted Rev. Wright?
Right.

It was trivial for Obama, and so is this.
It was not. You are still talking about it.
Don't be silly. Obama received near zero fallout from Wright, especially when he specifically distanced himself from the cherry picked quotes.
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5/11/2016 4:47:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 3:45:32 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 3:42:51 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:48:48 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 2:14:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 5:08:24 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

And your point?

Trump doesn't hire the best people

What makes you think Trump hired this person? Do you understand how delegates work?

He didn't directly hire, no. And he shouldn't - that's a responsibility you delegate. However, he clearly did not hire the best delegate scouts. This is something so blatantly obvious that it should be an immediate disqualifier. I can guarantee you any other campaign finds someone like this, they don't let them in.

Trump, as President, would be responsible for hiring many people overseeing many things. Because he's not shown himself to be good at this, I am genuinely concerned we might see the most corrupt administration since Harding - and, like Harding, it wouldn't be intentional. I would just be surrounding yourself with bad people.

Do you know how stupid that argument sounds?

this coming from the Trump supporter
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5/11/2016 4:51:29 PM
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At 5/11/2016 4:20:42 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Don't let them beat you up too much.

Any person who criticizes Trump online understands this. He has his little online cult, most of which are just trolls.

1) This is the stuff campaigns hate. Trump does not get a pass, no other candidate would.

It's just another thing that goes into the Democrat war chest. There are dozens and dozens of these now that they can pop out at any moment.

2) He does have a terrible ground game. He seems unwilling or incapable of assembling a proper team, and that has meaning for the general and for a potential presidency.

He said earlier today that he doesn't plan to invest in data operations. He thinks rallies are going to be enough to carry him.
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5/11/2016 4:54:13 PM
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At 5/11/2016 4:08:56 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
How could you possibly compare appointing a nationalist (which is what Trump wants) with Harding's appointments????

A white nationalist. As in, literal Nazi. Someone who wants everyone who isn't white to be stripped of their citizenship and deported. I mean, if you want to defend that, go ahead. Your fellow Trumpkkins probably won't be able to. I know YYW in particular won't be able to while maintaining his intellectual honesty.

And yes, I am comparing it to Harding. You have a better comparison?
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5/11/2016 4:56:24 PM
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At 5/11/2016 4:47:41 PM, TN05 wrote:

Trump, as President, would be responsible for hiring many people overseeing many things. Because he's not shown himself to be good at this, I am genuinely concerned we might see the most corrupt administration since Harding - and, like Harding, it wouldn't be intentional. I would just be surrounding yourself with bad people.

Do you know how stupid that argument sounds?

this coming from the Trump supporter

Again, A cherrypicked unvetted delegate, which has zero political power other than to help usher in the inevitable emperor, is the EXACT same as selecting an unvetted person for a position of actual government power? And comparing that delegate to Harding's powerful crony appointments? Looks good for Trump when you have to resort to stretching like a rubber band to get something to stick....
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5/11/2016 4:58:46 PM
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At 5/11/2016 4:56:24 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:47:41 PM, TN05 wrote:

Trump, as President, would be responsible for hiring many people overseeing many things. Because he's not shown himself to be good at this, I am genuinely concerned we might see the most corrupt administration since Harding - and, like Harding, it wouldn't be intentional. I would just be surrounding yourself with bad people.

Do you know how stupid that argument sounds?

this coming from the Trump supporter

Again, A cherrypicked unvetted delegate, which has zero political power other than to help usher in the inevitable emperor, is the EXACT same as selecting an unvetted person for a position of actual government power? And comparing that delegate to Harding's powerful crony appointments? Looks good for Trump when you have to resort to stretching like a rubber band to get something to stick....

It shows Trump takes little interest in who he has working for him, other than confirming their loyalty. Which means his oversight in the executive branch would be basically non-existent.
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5/11/2016 4:58:55 PM
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At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party)

Is that like the "Constitution" party, the party that wants a theocracy like Dominionists?
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5/11/2016 4:59:28 PM
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At 5/11/2016 4:43:52 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:30:59 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:23:13 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:20:42 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Don't let them beat you up too much.

1) This is the stuff campaigns hate. Trump does not get a pass, no other candidate would.
You mean like the unvetted Rev. Wright?
Right.

It was trivial for Obama, and so is this.
It was not. You are still talking about it.
Don't be silly. Obama received near zero fallout from Wright, especially when he specifically distanced himself from the cherry picked quotes.

That is simply not true. It was used again and again - till today! Better than nine years of crap for this, and you think it meant nothing? Please...

Its not a knockout, it is a straw. Gather enough of them, and see what you get.
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5/11/2016 5:01:21 PM
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At 5/11/2016 4:59:28 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:43:52 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:30:59 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:23:13 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:20:42 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Don't let them beat you up too much.

1) This is the stuff campaigns hate. Trump does not get a pass, no other candidate would.
You mean like the unvetted Rev. Wright?
Right.

It was trivial for Obama, and so is this.
It was not. You are still talking about it.
Don't be silly. Obama received near zero fallout from Wright, especially when he specifically distanced himself from the cherry picked quotes.

That is simply not true. It was used again and again - till today! Better than nine years of crap for this, and you think it meant nothing? Please...

Its not a knockout, it is a straw. Gather enough of them, and see what you get.

Obama suffered ZERO, negative, none political reaction to this. That's the fact. It never affected his popularity by even a fraction of a point.

Trivial.
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5/11/2016 5:03:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 4:58:46 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:56:24 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:47:41 PM, TN05 wrote:

Trump, as President, would be responsible for hiring many people overseeing many things. Because he's not shown himself to be good at this, I am genuinely concerned we might see the most corrupt administration since Harding - and, like Harding, it wouldn't be intentional. I would just be surrounding yourself with bad people.

Do you know how stupid that argument sounds?

this coming from the Trump supporter

Again, A cherrypicked unvetted delegate, which has zero political power other than to help usher in the inevitable emperor, is the EXACT same as selecting an unvetted person for a position of actual government power? And comparing that delegate to Harding's powerful crony appointments? Looks good for Trump when you have to resort to stretching like a rubber band to get something to stick....

It shows Trump takes little interest in who he has working for him, other than confirming their loyalty. Which means his oversight in the executive branch would be basically non-existent.

I could agree if he had that guy for his campaign manager, but we are talking about a delegate, just someone who is, for all intents, functionally a button pushing monkey. It's like saying Obama had a racist janitor in a federal building.
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5/11/2016 5:05:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 5:01:21 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:59:28 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:43:52 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:30:59 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:23:13 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:20:42 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party) and a literal white nationalist. He has advocated repealing the 14th and 15th amendments and passing a new constitutional amendment that would basically deport anyone who isn't 'European' white.

It's too late for Trump to remove him as a delegate. The deadline to change was today. So congrats Trump.(https://www.washingtonpost.com...)

Don't let them beat you up too much.

1) This is the stuff campaigns hate. Trump does not get a pass, no other candidate would.
You mean like the unvetted Rev. Wright?
Right.

It was trivial for Obama, and so is this.
It was not. You are still talking about it.
Don't be silly. Obama received near zero fallout from Wright, especially when he specifically distanced himself from the cherry picked quotes.

That is simply not true. It was used again and again - till today! Better than nine years of crap for this, and you think it meant nothing? Please...

Its not a knockout, it is a straw. Gather enough of them, and see what you get.

Obama suffered ZERO, negative, none political reaction to this. That's the fact. It never affected his popularity by even a fraction of a point.

Trivial.

That is just not true. Look at any results
https://www.google.com...

and tell me that it was NOT used. Look, it does not even have to flip one vote, it help solidify and enrage the conservative base. That has value, right? It made liberals have to spend time and effort "defending", right?
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5/11/2016 5:10:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 4:58:55 PM, user13579 wrote:
At 5/11/2016 4:22:33 AM, TN05 wrote:
William Daniel Johnson was selected by the Trump campaign as a delegate in California. He's the founder of the 'American Freedom Party' (a neo-nazi third position party)

Is that like the "Constitution" party, the party that wants a theocracy like Dominionists?

No. The Constitution Party and neo-Nazis are two very different things.

The Constitution Party are basically paleoconservatives. Think Pat Buchannan on steroids. They place a major emphasis on social issues (outlawing all abortion, outlawing homosexuality, English as the official language and a requirement to participate in government, pro-gun, school prayer, etc.), but aren't openly theocratic - they view the government as rooted in 'Biblical law', but don't support a state religion or religious tests. On economic issues, they are generally pro-free market domestically, but oppose trade and immigration. They are also isolationists on foreign policy - they aren't fans of foreign aid and aren't pro-Israel. They also are weak environmentalists - they reject global warming (partly due to government, partly due to globalization), but also express support for some environmental legislation.

Actual Neo-Nazi groups like the American Freedom Party generally adopt a Nazi/fascist platform, usually calling themselves "third position" (rejecting both communism and capitalism). They may or may not openly call for genocide. Johnson doesn't want genocide, for instance, but does want racial cleansing through deportation of all non-whites.

The Constitution Party and neo-Nazi groups aren't working together, but they do tend to draw the same type of audience - skeptical of trade and immigration, and in some cases opposition to Israel and/or Jews. But they aren't the same thing.
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5/11/2016 6:07:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 5/11/2016 4:47:41 PM, TN05 wrote:
this coming from the Trump supporter

He's a Bernie supporter.
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