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5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?
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5/12/2016 10:14:56 PM
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At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

When it suits the people who want equal rights, then they have equal rights. When it doesn't suit them, they don't want equal rights! There's your answer.
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5/12/2016 11:35:44 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Also why do women get to decide whether to abort or not, but men don't get to decide whether to support a child or not?

Modern day Feminism is very inconsistent on this and many other issues.
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5/13/2016 12:35:55 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

The draft shouldn't exist considering how it violates people's freedom. However, a draft for both genders is preferable to discriminating against men. This is so as long as both genders meet the physical requirements equally, and the bar isn't elevated or lowered for either of the genders.

Women should theoretically get paid the same for the same work, but the wage gap isn't entirely due to women being discriminated against in the workplace. Rather, it's due to cultural traditions that give the impression to some women they should be a lazy housewife in contrary of working hard on a career. This is one primary reason why women are paid less than men. Legally requiring women to be paid the same doesn't turn out to be the best idea, considering "the same amount of work" is highly subjective and up for debate in certain scenarios.
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5/13/2016 7:35:21 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 12:35:55 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
However, a draft for both genders is preferable to discriminating against men. This is so as long as both genders meet the physical requirements equally, and the bar isn't elevated or lowered for either of the genders.

Did you know women are relatively weak and prone to pregnancy? Why draft them when they can't meet the same physical requirements required of men? Why draft them when a huge percentage of them would plead out of service because of pregnancy or because they have no one to take care of their bastard children?

Women should theoretically get paid the same for the same work, but the wage gap isn't entirely due to women being discriminated against in the workplace.

If you weren't so ignorant, you'd know that women are paid more for the same work, thanks to government anti-consent laws distorting market wages.
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5/13/2016 10:29:41 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/12/2016 11:35:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Also why do women get to decide whether to abort or not, but men don't get to decide whether to support a child or not?

Modern day Feminism is very inconsistent on this and many other issues.

Why don't women get to decide when you jerk off?
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5/13/2016 12:20:37 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 10:29:41 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 11:35:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Also why do women get to decide whether to abort or not, but men don't get to decide whether to support a child or not?

Modern day Feminism is very inconsistent on this and many other issues.

Why don't women get to decide when you jerk off?

... is this a serious attempt at some form of rebuttal?
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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5/13/2016 5:25:14 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 10:29:41 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 11:35:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Also why do women get to decide whether to abort or not, but men don't get to decide whether to support a child or not?

Modern day Feminism is very inconsistent on this and many other issues.

Why don't women get to decide when you jerk off?

Women are "jerk off sexists?"......
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5/13/2016 6:36:44 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Yes.

However their placement should fit a role suitable to what they are capable of.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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5/13/2016 7:22:19 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 7:35:21 AM, Rukado wrote:
At 5/13/2016 12:35:55 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
However, a draft for both genders is preferable to discriminating against men. This is so as long as both genders meet the physical requirements equally, and the bar isn't elevated or lowered for either of the genders.

Did you know women are relatively weak and prone to pregnancy? Why draft them when they can't meet the same physical requirements required of men? Why draft them when a huge percentage of them would plead out of service because of pregnancy or because they have no one to take care of their bastard children?

Because cancelling entire groups due to averages are blatant collectivism. Not all women are necessarily weak, many women are stronger than men. On average, men are probably a little stronger. But as I said, judging by averages is collectivism. In some scenarios, a woman may show more military potential than their husband. (Also consider there are more skills needing to be used in the military than pure muscle strength)

Their children can be left to another relative, or maybe their husband if they are better suited for the military than their husband.

Women should theoretically get paid the same for the same work, but the wage gap isn't entirely due to women being discriminated against in the workplace.

If you weren't so ignorant, you'd know that women are paid more for the same work, thanks to government anti-consent laws distorting market wages.

Maybe women are paid more or less for the same work, I am unsure. But if you could link me to any proof, I wouldn't be surprised considering "anti discrimination" laws. Which is why I don't support government anti-sexism laws.
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5/13/2016 7:29:51 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 7:22:19 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 5/13/2016 7:35:21 AM, Rukado wrote:
At 5/13/2016 12:35:55 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
However, a draft for both genders is preferable to discriminating against men. This is so as long as both genders meet the physical requirements equally, and the bar isn't elevated or lowered for either of the genders.

Did you know women are relatively weak and prone to pregnancy? Why draft them when they can't meet the same physical requirements required of men? Why draft them when a huge percentage of them would plead out of service because of pregnancy or because they have no one to take care of their bastard children?

Because cancelling entire groups due to averages are blatant collectivism. Not all women are necessarily weak, many women are stronger than men. On average, men are probably a little stronger. But as I said, judging by averages is collectivism. In some scenarios, a woman may show more military potential than their husband. (Also consider there are more skills needing to be used in the military than pure muscle strength)

Their children can be left to another relative, or maybe their husband if they are better suited for the military than their husband.

Women should theoretically get paid the same for the same work, but the wage gap isn't entirely due to women being discriminated against in the workplace.

If you weren't so ignorant, you'd know that women are paid more for the same work, thanks to government anti-consent laws distorting market wages.

Maybe women are paid more or less for the same work, I am unsure. But if you could link me to any proof, I wouldn't be surprised considering "anti discrimination" laws. Which is why I don't support government anti-sexism laws.

And in regards to pregnancy, maybe the military officials shouldn't hire wh&res, (for the lack of a better word) or at least give condoms if they want to rape people/be a wh*re?
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5/13/2016 7:54:10 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Whatever benefits ugly but well connected women is equality.
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5/13/2016 8:27:22 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/12/2016 11:35:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Also why do women get to decide whether to abort or not, but men don't get to decide whether to support a child or not?

Modern day Feminism is very inconsistent on this and many other issues.
A man chooses to have sex with the woman. thats his decision. No one forces him. If a woman becomes pregnant as a result, It's her body therefore her decision. If a man wants to avoid making financial contributions to children then he needs to either abstain from sex or ensure adequate contraception is used to prevent pregnancy.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

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5/13/2016 8:32:03 PM
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At 5/13/2016 8:27:22 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 11:35:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Also why do women get to decide whether to abort or not, but men don't get to decide whether to support a child or not?

Modern day Feminism is very inconsistent on this and many other issues.
A man chooses to have sex with the woman. thats his decision. No one forces him. If a woman becomes pregnant as a result, It's her body therefore her decision. If a man wants to avoid making financial contributions to children then he needs to either abstain from sex or ensure adequate contraception is used to prevent pregnancy.

A woman does not abort HER own body.
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5/13/2016 8:34:52 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 7:22:19 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
Because cancelling entire groups due to averages are blatant collectivism.
people act like it's useless.

Not all women are necessarily weak, many women are stronger than men.
around 1% of women are stronger than the average man. and the average man doesn't qualify for the military.
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5/13/2016 8:36:22 PM
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At 5/13/2016 8:27:22 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
If a man wants to avoid making financial contributions to children then he needs to either abstain from sex or ensure adequate contraception is used to prevent pregnancy.

i agree. if women want to avoid the financial inconvenience of pregnancy, they can abstain from sex or take a gamble with contraception.
Ego sum qui sum. Deus lo vult.

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5/13/2016 8:37:06 PM
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At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.

I believe in complete equality. I would oppose drafts unless they are absolutely essential but if one was needed then I would draft men and women equally. I would then assess the people as individuals and assign appropriate roles. Decisions should be made on ability and capability not gender. If a woman outperforms a man in military trials/ tests then she should get a more significant role. I can't see a logical reason to use someone's gender to discriminate against them in the military. It should be 100% about capability.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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5/13/2016 8:59:02 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 8:32:03 PM, janesix wrote:
At 5/13/2016 8:27:22 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 11:35:44 PM, ford_prefect wrote:
Also why do women get to decide whether to abort or not, but men don't get to decide whether to support a child or not?

Modern day Feminism is very inconsistent on this and many other issues.
A man chooses to have sex with the woman. thats his decision. No one forces him. If a woman becomes pregnant as a result, It's her body therefore her decision. If a man wants to avoid making financial contributions to children then he needs to either abstain from sex or ensure adequate contraception is used to prevent pregnancy.

A woman does not abort HER own body.

That's true. She aborts a foetus.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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5/13/2016 10:11:43 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 8:37:06 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.

I believe in complete equality. I would oppose drafts unless they are absolutely essential but if one was needed then I would draft men and women equally. I would then assess the people as individuals and assign appropriate roles. Decisions should be made on ability and capability not gender. If a woman outperforms a man in military trials/ tests then she should get a more significant role. I can't see a logical reason to use someone's gender to discriminate against them in the military. It should be 100% about capability.

Not at a sperm bank. Can you get $35-$50 per sample? Nope. Is that equality?
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5/13/2016 10:24:01 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 10:11:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 8:37:06 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.

I believe in complete equality. I would oppose drafts unless they are absolutely essential but if one was needed then I would draft men and women equally. I would then assess the people as individuals and assign appropriate roles. Decisions should be made on ability and capability not gender. If a woman outperforms a man in military trials/ tests then she should get a more significant role. I can't see a logical reason to use someone's gender to discriminate against them in the military. It should be 100% about capability.

Not at a sperm bank. Can you get $35-$50 per sample? Nope. Is that equality?

I can't produce sperm so obviously not, lol. Only men can donate sperm because only men can produce it. Again it's about capability. The same as the point you made earlier about men not being able to get pregnant.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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5/13/2016 10:29:45 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 10:24:01 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:11:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 8:37:06 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.

I believe in complete equality. I would oppose drafts unless they are absolutely essential but if one was needed then I would draft men and women equally. I would then assess the people as individuals and assign appropriate roles. Decisions should be made on ability and capability not gender. If a woman outperforms a man in military trials/ tests then she should get a more significant role. I can't see a logical reason to use someone's gender to discriminate against them in the military. It should be 100% about capability.

Not at a sperm bank. Can you get $35-$50 per sample? Nope. Is that equality?

I can't produce sperm so obviously not, lol. Only men can donate sperm because only men can produce it. Again it's about capability. The same as the point you made earlier about men not being able to get pregnant.

Is it sexual discrimination against women to offer them nothing for reproductive slime?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/13/2016 10:44:03 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 10:29:45 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:24:01 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:11:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 8:37:06 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.

I believe in complete equality. I would oppose drafts unless they are absolutely essential but if one was needed then I would draft men and women equally. I would then assess the people as individuals and assign appropriate roles. Decisions should be made on ability and capability not gender. If a woman outperforms a man in military trials/ tests then she should get a more significant role. I can't see a logical reason to use someone's gender to discriminate against them in the military. It should be 100% about capability.

Not at a sperm bank. Can you get $35-$50 per sample? Nope. Is that equality?

I can't produce sperm so obviously not, lol. Only men can donate sperm because only men can produce it. Again it's about capability. The same as the point you made earlier about men not being able to get pregnant.

Is it sexual discrimination against women to offer them nothing for reproductive slime?

No. Women are not capable of producing sperm. Its just a basic biological fact.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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5/13/2016 10:45:20 PM
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At 5/13/2016 10:44:03 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:29:45 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:24:01 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:11:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 8:37:06 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.

I believe in complete equality. I would oppose drafts unless they are absolutely essential but if one was needed then I would draft men and women equally. I would then assess the people as individuals and assign appropriate roles. Decisions should be made on ability and capability not gender. If a woman outperforms a man in military trials/ tests then she should get a more significant role. I can't see a logical reason to use someone's gender to discriminate against them in the military. It should be 100% about capability.

Not at a sperm bank. Can you get $35-$50 per sample? Nope. Is that equality?

I can't produce sperm so obviously not, lol. Only men can donate sperm because only men can produce it. Again it's about capability. The same as the point you made earlier about men not being able to get pregnant.

Is it sexual discrimination against women to offer them nothing for reproductive slime?

No. Women are not capable of producing sperm. Its just a basic biological fact.

And how did that happen?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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5/13/2016 10:52:08 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 10:45:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:44:03 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:29:45 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:24:01 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:11:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 8:37:06 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.

I believe in complete equality. I would oppose drafts unless they are absolutely essential but if one was needed then I would draft men and women equally. I would then assess the people as individuals and assign appropriate roles. Decisions should be made on ability and capability not gender. If a woman outperforms a man in military trials/ tests then she should get a more significant role. I can't see a logical reason to use someone's gender to discriminate against them in the military. It should be 100% about capability.

Not at a sperm bank. Can you get $35-$50 per sample? Nope. Is that equality?

I can't produce sperm so obviously not, lol. Only men can donate sperm because only men can produce it. Again it's about capability. The same as the point you made earlier about men not being able to get pregnant.

Is it sexual discrimination against women to offer them nothing for reproductive slime?

No. Women are not capable of producing sperm. Its just a basic biological fact.

And how did that happen?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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5/15/2016 11:07:41 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/13/2016 10:52:08 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:45:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:44:03 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:29:45 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:24:01 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/13/2016 10:11:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/13/2016 8:37:06 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 5/12/2016 10:07:11 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Should 18 year old girls be eligable for the draft or is that not what is meant by equal? Seeing boys are expected to be ready in wartime for a draft, should they get paid more, the same...? Where's the line at on equal rights?

Equality is the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.

I believe in complete equality. I would oppose drafts unless they are absolutely essential but if one was needed then I would draft men and women equally. I would then assess the people as individuals and assign appropriate roles. Decisions should be made on ability and capability not gender. If a woman outperforms a man in military trials/ tests then she should get a more significant role. I can't see a logical reason to use someone's gender to discriminate against them in the military. It should be 100% about capability.

Not at a sperm bank. Can you get $35-$50 per sample? Nope. Is that equality?

I can't produce sperm so obviously not, lol. Only men can donate sperm because only men can produce it. Again it's about capability. The same as the point you made earlier about men not being able to get pregnant.

Is it sexual discrimination against women to offer them nothing for reproductive slime?

No. Women are not capable of producing sperm. Its just a basic biological fact.

And how did that happen?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

I looked it over. I couldn't find anything aboutmale and female evolving for millions of years at the exact rate, then magically growing a vagina and a penis simultaneously to mate witheach other in the first place. And if asexuality was working, why did the process begin at all...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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