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5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?
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5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.
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5/14/2016 10:58:07 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

Following the example of every candidate since Nixon means nothing? "I worked for everything I own, including Checkers"
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5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?
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5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.
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5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?
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5/14/2016 11:57:02 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
probably not
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5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.
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5/15/2016 12:15:41 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.

Yes but what makes *that* hypocritical?
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5/15/2016 12:16:42 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:15:41 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.

Yes but what makes *that* hypocritical?

We don't need to go twenty rounds on a semantically argument, but if I had to find political examples of the word, that would fit nicely.
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5/15/2016 12:18:28 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:16:42 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:41 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.

Yes but what makes *that* hypocritical?

We don't need to go twenty rounds on a semantically argument, but if I had to find political examples of the word, that would fit nicely.

I'm not asking you for an example. I'm asking you to explain to me why it is hypocritical for Donald Trump not to release his tax records while he is under audit, but Donald Trump wanted Obama to release his long-form birth certificate.
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5/15/2016 12:20:37 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:18:28 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:16:42 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:41 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.

Yes but what makes *that* hypocritical?

We don't need to go twenty rounds on a semantically argument, but if I had to find political examples of the word, that would fit nicely.

I'm not asking you for an example. I'm asking you to explain to me why it is hypocritical for Donald Trump not to release his tax records while he is under audit, but Donald Trump wanted Obama to release his long-form birth certificate.

There is nothing to show he is being audited. Show us the letter then. Show me the requests from the IRS. Simple enough, right?
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5/15/2016 12:23:18 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:20:37 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:18:28 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:16:42 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:41 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.

Yes but what makes *that* hypocritical?

We don't need to go twenty rounds on a semantically argument, but if I had to find political examples of the word, that would fit nicely.

I'm not asking you for an example. I'm asking you to explain to me why it is hypocritical for Donald Trump not to release his tax records while he is under audit, but Donald Trump wanted Obama to release his long-form birth certificate.

There is nothing to show he is being audited. Show us the letter then. Show me the requests from the IRS. Simple enough, right?

Well, the IRS doesn't send "requests" that give you notice you're being audited.

Do you doubt he's being audited?

Have you ever been audited?
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5/15/2016 12:24:26 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:23:18 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:20:37 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:18:28 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:16:42 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:41 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.

Yes but what makes *that* hypocritical?

We don't need to go twenty rounds on a semantically argument, but if I had to find political examples of the word, that would fit nicely.

I'm not asking you for an example. I'm asking you to explain to me why it is hypocritical for Donald Trump not to release his tax records while he is under audit, but Donald Trump wanted Obama to release his long-form birth certificate.

There is nothing to show he is being audited. Show us the letter then. Show me the requests from the IRS. Simple enough, right?

Well, the IRS doesn't send "requests" that give you notice you're being audited.
Yes they do.


Do you doubt he's being audited?
Yes I do doubt it.


Have you ever been audited?
Yes
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5/15/2016 12:26:56 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/14/2016 10:58:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

Following the example of every candidate since Nixon means nothing? "I worked for everything I own, including Checkers"

There's no upside; today's media is a Lewinsky media, not Watergate's
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5/15/2016 12:28:09 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:24:26 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:23:18 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:20:37 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:18:28 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:16:42 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:41 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.

Yes but what makes *that* hypocritical?

We don't need to go twenty rounds on a semantically argument, but if I had to find political examples of the word, that would fit nicely.

I'm not asking you for an example. I'm asking you to explain to me why it is hypocritical for Donald Trump not to release his tax records while he is under audit, but Donald Trump wanted Obama to release his long-form birth certificate.

There is nothing to show he is being audited. Show us the letter then. Show me the requests from the IRS. Simple enough, right?

Well, the IRS doesn't send "requests" that give you notice you're being audited.
Yes they do.


Do you doubt he's being audited?
Yes I do doubt it.


Have you ever been audited?
Yes

Ok.

If Trump lied about being audited, don't you think that Hillary Clinton would have personally said that?

(Oh, and there are very compelling legal reasons not to disclose communications between the IRS and an individual being audited. Reasons that are complicated.)

The suggestion that he's not being audited, though, is absurd. But let's put that absurdity on the backburner right now and return to the salient issue from which our initial conversation emanated from...

Why is it hypocritical that Trump won't release his tax records while being audited, but that Trump wanted Obama's long-form birth certificate?

It's not a trick question. Just tell me.
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5/15/2016 12:28:37 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:26:56 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:58:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

Following the example of every candidate since Nixon means nothing? "I worked for everything I own, including Checkers"

There's no upside; today's media is a Lewinsky media, not Watergate's

I don't necessarily disagree. No up side for him. He is a serial exaggerator about all things related to his personal finance. It would be a disaster.
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5/15/2016 12:34:19 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:28:37 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:26:56 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:58:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

Following the example of every candidate since Nixon means nothing? "I worked for everything I own, including Checkers"

There's no upside; today's media is a Lewinsky media, not Watergate's

I don't necessarily disagree. No up side for him. He is a serial exaggerator about all things related to his personal finance. It would be a disaster.

On a related note, I think Obama taught him some valuable political lessons with the birther "scandal"

Trump has everything to gain by letting the media fret and make ado over nothing, and then at a critical moment, he can just show the goods, and that's that.

All the time up to then, he gets shielded protection from the media while they waste valuable air time on something insignificant, like a birth certificate....or a tax return....

Trump learns from the best.

You could say that Trump is Obama's Frankenstein...how Ironic.
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5/15/2016 12:34:31 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:28:09 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:24:26 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:23:18 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:20:37 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:18:28 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:16:42 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:41 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:15:07 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:55:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:37:01 PM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 11:34:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

Why do you think his refusal to release his tax returns is hypocritical?

He seemed very interested in the details of Obamas birth certificate AND college transcripts if I recall.

So?

You asked what was hypocritical, that is what is hypocritical.

Yes but what makes *that* hypocritical?

We don't need to go twenty rounds on a semantically argument, but if I had to find political examples of the word, that would fit nicely.

I'm not asking you for an example. I'm asking you to explain to me why it is hypocritical for Donald Trump not to release his tax records while he is under audit, but Donald Trump wanted Obama to release his long-form birth certificate.

There is nothing to show he is being audited. Show us the letter then. Show me the requests from the IRS. Simple enough, right?

Well, the IRS doesn't send "requests" that give you notice you're being audited.
Yes they do.


Do you doubt he's being audited?
Yes I do doubt it.


Have you ever been audited?
Yes

Ok.

If Trump lied about being audited, don't you think that Hillary Clinton would have personally said that?
I think she will. I think the general has not started. Why waste the ammo?


(Oh, and there are very compelling legal reasons not to disclose communications between the IRS and an individual being audited. Reasons that are complicated.)
Please.... Horsesh1t. He could just show that the notice exists.


The suggestion that he's not being audited, though, is absurd. But let's put that absurdity on the backburner right now and return to the salient issue from which our initial conversation emanated from...

Why is it hypocritical that Trump won't release his tax records while being audited, but that Trump wanted Obama's long-form birth certificate?
This is very obvious. If he has a history of thinking that the personal business of presidents is "fair game" than he can't cry privacy - surly not on a issue that has so much historic precedent. Fifty years of candidates releasing this information freely - a candidate who has shown complete disregard for privacy. Yea, that counts as hypocrisy.


It's not a trick question. Just tell me.

I am unsure that he SHOULD release them. As I noted above, nothing but downside for him. He has exaggerated income and worth for so long now that there is no way to go back on it. Further, real-estate development is FULL of opportunities to reduce effective tax-rate. He is, likely, paying virtually nothing.
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5/15/2016 12:39:47 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:34:31 AM, TBR wrote:
I am unsure that he SHOULD release them. As I noted above, nothing but downside for him. He has exaggerated income and worth for so long now that there is no way to go back on it. Further, real-estate development is FULL of opportunities to reduce effective tax-rate. He is, likely, paying virtually nothing.

Sure. Again. What I want to know, again, is why it is hypocritical, assuming for the purpose of this particular part of the discussion that he is in fact being audited, for Trump to not release his tax records, but at the same time having wanted Obama's long form birth certificate.

Why is that set of affairs hypocritical? What makes it hypocritical?

Just tell me... I'm trying to see where your head's at.
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5/15/2016 12:41:44 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:39:47 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:34:31 AM, TBR wrote:
I am unsure that he SHOULD release them. As I noted above, nothing but downside for him. He has exaggerated income and worth for so long now that there is no way to go back on it. Further, real-estate development is FULL of opportunities to reduce effective tax-rate. He is, likely, paying virtually nothing.

Sure. Again. What I want to know, again, is why it is hypocritical, assuming for the purpose of this particular part of the discussion that he is in fact being audited, for Trump to not release his tax records, but at the same time having wanted Obama's long form birth certificate.

I answered above.


Why is that set of affairs hypocritical? What makes it hypocritical?

Did you not read it, or not like my answer?


Just tell me... I'm trying to see where your head's at.

This is very obvious. If he has a history of thinking that the personal business of presidents is "fair game" than he can't cry privacy - surly not on a issue that has so much historic precedent. Fifty years of candidates releasing this information freely - a candidate who has shown complete disregard for privacy. Yea, that counts as hypocrisy.
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5/15/2016 12:58:27 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook" - Nixon

I think I would phrase this a little differently for Trump

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a pathetic, narcissist, braggart"
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5/15/2016 1:06:09 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:41:44 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:39:47 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:34:31 AM, TBR wrote:
I am unsure that he SHOULD release them. As I noted above, nothing but downside for him. He has exaggerated income and worth for so long now that there is no way to go back on it. Further, real-estate development is FULL of opportunities to reduce effective tax-rate. He is, likely, paying virtually nothing.

Sure. Again. What I want to know, again, is why it is hypocritical, assuming for the purpose of this particular part of the discussion that he is in fact being audited, for Trump to not release his tax records, but at the same time having wanted Obama's long form birth certificate.

I answered above.


Why is that set of affairs hypocritical? What makes it hypocritical?

Did you not read it, or not like my answer?


Just tell me... I'm trying to see where your head's at.

This is very obvious. If he has a history of thinking that the personal business of presidents is "fair game" than he can't cry privacy - surly not on a issue that has so much historic precedent. Fifty years of candidates releasing this information freely - a candidate who has shown complete disregard for privacy. Yea, that counts as hypocrisy.

There is no legal requirement that a candidate release his tax information.

There is a legal requirement that a president be a natural born citizen.
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5/15/2016 1:11:43 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 1:06:09 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:41:44 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:39:47 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:34:31 AM, TBR wrote:
I am unsure that he SHOULD release them. As I noted above, nothing but downside for him. He has exaggerated income and worth for so long now that there is no way to go back on it. Further, real-estate development is FULL of opportunities to reduce effective tax-rate. He is, likely, paying virtually nothing.

Sure. Again. What I want to know, again, is why it is hypocritical, assuming for the purpose of this particular part of the discussion that he is in fact being audited, for Trump to not release his tax records, but at the same time having wanted Obama's long form birth certificate.

I answered above.


Why is that set of affairs hypocritical? What makes it hypocritical?

Did you not read it, or not like my answer?


Just tell me... I'm trying to see where your head's at.

This is very obvious. If he has a history of thinking that the personal business of presidents is "fair game" than he can't cry privacy - surly not on a issue that has so much historic precedent. Fifty years of candidates releasing this information freely - a candidate who has shown complete disregard for privacy. Yea, that counts as hypocrisy.

There is no legal requirement that a candidate release his tax information.
I am not saying there is one. I am saying there is a long president, and simply asking for thoughts about IF he will. Further I am saying it IS hypocritical if he does NOT.

This is loose loose for him. What is worse? I think releasing them.


There is a legal requirement that a president be a natural born citizen.

Agreed, however, want me to dig up the quotes about Trump wanting Obama college transcripts? How about Trump's advice to Romney about tax returns?

The guy has a problem. Well, he has lots of problems, but this one is a bad deal for him.
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5/15/2016 1:37:57 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 12:58:27 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook" - Nixon

I think I would phrase this a little differently for Trump

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a pathetic, narcissist, braggart"

Nixon is dead. Long live Trump.
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5/15/2016 1:39:48 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 1:11:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 1:06:09 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:41:44 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:39:47 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:34:31 AM, TBR wrote:
I am unsure that he SHOULD release them. As I noted above, nothing but downside for him. He has exaggerated income and worth for so long now that there is no way to go back on it. Further, real-estate development is FULL of opportunities to reduce effective tax-rate. He is, likely, paying virtually nothing.

Sure. Again. What I want to know, again, is why it is hypocritical, assuming for the purpose of this particular part of the discussion that he is in fact being audited, for Trump to not release his tax records, but at the same time having wanted Obama's long form birth certificate.

I answered above.


Why is that set of affairs hypocritical? What makes it hypocritical?

Did you not read it, or not like my answer?


Just tell me... I'm trying to see where your head's at.

This is very obvious. If he has a history of thinking that the personal business of presidents is "fair game" than he can't cry privacy - surly not on a issue that has so much historic precedent. Fifty years of candidates releasing this information freely - a candidate who has shown complete disregard for privacy. Yea, that counts as hypocrisy.

There is no legal requirement that a candidate release his tax information.
I am not saying there is one. I am saying there is a long president, and simply asking for thoughts about IF he will. Further I am saying it IS hypocritical if he does NOT.

This is loose loose for him. What is worse? I think releasing them.


There is a legal requirement that a president be a natural born citizen.

Agreed, however, want me to dig up the quotes about Trump wanting Obama college transcripts? How about Trump's advice to Romney about tax returns?

The guy has a problem. Well, he has lots of problems, but this one is a bad deal for him.

Lol, no it isn't.

He will use it the same way Obama played the media with his birth cert.

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5/15/2016 1:41:40 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 1:37:57 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:58:27 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook" - Nixon

I think I would phrase this a little differently for Trump

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a pathetic, narcissist, braggart"

Nixon is dead. Long live Trump.

If you could put Nixon's brain in a Trump wraper - WOW would you have a hell of a president!
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5/15/2016 1:46:18 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 1:41:40 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 1:37:57 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:58:27 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook" - Nixon

I think I would phrase this a little differently for Trump

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a pathetic, narcissist, braggart"

Nixon is dead. Long live Trump.

If you could put Nixon's brain in a Trump wraper - WOW would you have a hell of a president!

It's really Obama's brain. He learned all his craft.
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5/15/2016 2:14:14 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/15/2016 1:46:18 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/15/2016 1:41:40 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/15/2016 1:37:57 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/15/2016 12:58:27 AM, TBR wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:42:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/14/2016 10:01:30 PM, TBR wrote:
Forget the hypocrisy for a sec (is possible for such a moron to be a hypocrite?) will he do it?

If he is a moron, he will.

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook" - Nixon

I think I would phrase this a little differently for Trump

"People have got to know whether or not their president is a pathetic, narcissist, braggart"

Nixon is dead. Long live Trump.

If you could put Nixon's brain in a Trump wraper - WOW would you have a hell of a president!

It's really Obama's brain. He learned all his craft.

I think it would be fun to run the entire Nixon crew for the 21 century.

Spiro Agnew would be played by Chris Christy.
Haldeman and Erlichman (open for suggestions)
Dean and Mitchell - well Rove and....
Hunt and Liddy? Well, Liddy is Rush, right?