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Do Liberals care about espionage?

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5/19/2016 4:29:41 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Do Liberals actually care if Muslims espionage the United States and the West?

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"And lead to destruction those whom you can with your deceptive voice." (Quran 17:64)

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Taqiya, kitman, muruna, tawriya. What's that. The art of deception in Islam. Muslims are to:

-Conceal their identity to nonmuslims when neccessary to advance Islam, even pretending to be their enemy if neccessary.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Knowing Islamic concepts are neccessary to keep America from Islamic takeover.

http://www.islam-watch.org...

Taqiya

Kitman

Muruna

Tawriya

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Espionage or Hypocrite thread-

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We shall overcome them gradually from directions that they cannot perceive. (Quran 68:44)

Sadiq Khan, the new Muslim mayor of London says Trump's knowledge of Islam is based on ignorance.

http://time.com...

Well heck. We don't want to be ignorant on Islam, so let's check it out.

Quran

1)Fight and kill unbelievers until "religion is Allah"s," Islamic law rules all societies.

(2:191-193)
"And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them, such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah"s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers."

2)Muslims cannot take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for "fear of them," i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or protection of Islam

(3:28)
"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends, rather than the believers " for whoso does that belongs not to Allah in anything " unless you have a fear of them. Allah warns you that You beware of Him, and unto Allah is the homecoming."

3)Fight unbelievers until Islam reigns supreme over the Earth.

(8:39)
"Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah"s entirely; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do."

4)Paradise guaranteed to those who kill and are killed for Allah

(9:111)
"Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph."

5)Behead and slaughter the unbelievers, take others captive.

(47:4)
"When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray."

6)Be merciful to believers, not unbelievers. Islam is a brotherhood only to itself.

(48:29)
"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another."

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(49:10)
"The Believers are but a single Brotherhood."

(2:221)
A believing slave is superior to an unbeliever.

(58:22)
"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred."

(4:144)
O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?

(4:101)
For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.

(9:123)
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty.

(25:52)
Listen not to the unbelievers, but strive, Jihad, against them with the utmost strenuousness.

Strive hard (Jihad) against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. "(66:9, See also 9:73)

Fight them, them by your hands and bring them to disgrace. (9:14)

And fight them until there is no more fitna (unbelief, worshipping others beside Allah), and religion is all for Allah. (8:39)

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*Conquer us and control our land

See that we gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? (13:41 - See also 21:44)

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QURAN 3:54

"ALLAH IS THE GREATEST OF DECEIVERS."
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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5/19/2016 4:35:30 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
You should ask Valerie Plame...
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brontoraptor
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5/19/2016 4:44:51 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/19/2016 4:35:30 PM, Fly wrote:
You should ask Valerie Plame...

Or Barack...

Or Huma Aberden...

Do they care about Islamic espionage?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/19/2016 5:15:07 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/19/2016 4:49:57 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/19/2016 4:35:30 PM, Fly wrote:
You should ask Valerie Plame...

From scam dot com.

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Point being?
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5/19/2016 5:24:04 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/19/2016 4:44:51 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/19/2016 4:35:30 PM, Fly wrote:
You should ask Valerie Plame...

Or Barack...

Or Huma Aberden...

Do they care about Islamic espionage?

As you seem to claim they are themselves spies, are you asking me if they care about their fellow spies, or... ?

How can anyone sort out the "substance" of your scatterbrained posts?
"You don't have a right to be a jerk."
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brontoraptor
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5/19/2016 7:34:58 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/19/2016 5:24:04 PM, Fly wrote:
At 5/19/2016 4:44:51 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/19/2016 4:35:30 PM, Fly wrote:
You should ask Valerie Plame...

Or Barack...

Or Huma Aberden...

Do they care about Islamic espionage?

As you seem to claim they are themselves spies, are you asking me if they care about their fellow spies, or... ?

How can anyone sort out the "substance" of your scatterbrained posts?

Seeing that a part of Islam is espionage of nonmuslims by concealment and espionage, can we tell them to kiss our as* as to coming into our country OR...should we just wait out their victory in the name of tollerance and multiculturism?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/19/2016 7:47:19 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/19/2016 7:34:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/19/2016 5:24:04 PM, Fly wrote:
At 5/19/2016 4:44:51 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/19/2016 4:35:30 PM, Fly wrote:
You should ask Valerie Plame...

Or Barack...

Or Huma Aberden...

Do they care about Islamic espionage?

As you seem to claim they are themselves spies, are you asking me if they care about their fellow spies, or... ?

How can anyone sort out the "substance" of your scatterbrained posts?

Seeing that a part of Islam is espionage of nonmuslims by concealment and espionage, can we tell them to kiss our as* as to coming into our country OR...should we just wait out their victory in the name of tollerance and multiculturism?

We, as a society, should be able to have an open dialog about Muslims, Islam and Islamism without "racism" and censorship of open dialog being the knee jerk response. Basically, I am with Aayan Hirsi Ali on this front...
"You don't have a right to be a jerk."
--Religion Forum's hypocrite extraordinaire serving up lulz