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5/21/2016 2:39:38 AM
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5/21/2016 2:40:12 AM
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Here's a link with the video included so you don't have to switch pages.
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5/21/2016 11:36:21 PM
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At 5/21/2016 10:11:30 PM, Hayd wrote:
The NRA is the epiphany of conservative stupidity. its slimy....

Care to tell us why?
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5/21/2016 11:37:47 PM
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That's pretty much decided for.

The NRA always endorses a right wing candidate, whether it's a Republican or a Libertarian. Hillary will never get an NRA endorsement for presidency, as it's highly unlikely, and Bernie most likely wants guns only because of the Marxist saying that the proletariat must have guns with which they can overthrow the bourgeoisie.

I would've endorsed Trump too if I had any power in the NRA, but this wasn't a shock for me.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

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Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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5/22/2016 2:45:31 PM
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At 5/21/2016 11:37:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
That's pretty much decided for.

The NRA always endorses a right wing candidate, whether it's a Republican or a Libertarian. Hillary will never get an NRA endorsement for presidency,

Yeah because closing the background check loophole is anti NRA. In the mean time Trump and NRA shrill continue to lie by saying Democrats want to take all guns away.
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5/22/2016 2:46:53 PM
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At 5/22/2016 2:45:31 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/21/2016 11:37:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
That's pretty much decided for.

The NRA always endorses a right wing candidate, whether it's a Republican or a Libertarian. Hillary will never get an NRA endorsement for presidency,

Yeah because closing the background check loophole is anti NRA. In the mean time Trump and NRA shrill continue to lie by saying Democrats want to take all guns away.


Democrats are consistently trying to limit gun ownership and the ability to own certain types of ammo. What the hell are you talking about? Are you really going to tell me that Democrats are pro gun ownership?
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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5/22/2016 7:10:13 PM
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At 5/22/2016 2:46:53 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 2:45:31 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/21/2016 11:37:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
That's pretty much decided for.

The NRA always endorses a right wing candidate, whether it's a Republican or a Libertarian. Hillary will never get an NRA endorsement for presidency,

Yeah because closing the background check loophole is anti NRA. In the mean time Trump and NRA shrill continue to lie by saying Democrats want to take all guns away.


Democrats are consistently trying to limit gun ownership and the ability to own certain types of ammo. What the hell are you talking about? Are you really going to tell me that Democrats are pro gun ownership?

A discussion about what types of "arms" and ammo is available to citizens as well as who is should be eligible to own them is a very valid. The right to bare arms is restricted. The argument of the nature of those restrictions is valid on both sides.

However it is rare to see Republicans frame the discussionext in a legitimate way, because lie and say that Democrats want to take guns away.

I have yet to see any valid claim that Democrats want to confiscate guns.
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5/22/2016 7:12:16 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 7:10:13 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 2:46:53 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 2:45:31 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/21/2016 11:37:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
That's pretty much decided for.

The NRA always endorses a right wing candidate, whether it's a Republican or a Libertarian. Hillary will never get an NRA endorsement for presidency,

Yeah because closing the background check loophole is anti NRA. In the mean time Trump and NRA shrill continue to lie by saying Democrats want to take all guns away.


Democrats are consistently trying to limit gun ownership and the ability to own certain types of ammo. What the hell are you talking about? Are you really going to tell me that Democrats are pro gun ownership?

A discussion about what types of "arms" and ammo is available to citizens as well as who is should be eligible to own them is a very valid. The right to bare arms is restricted. The argument of the nature of those restrictions is valid on both sides.

However it is rare to see Republicans frame the discussionext in a legitimate way, because lie and say that Democrats want to take guns away.

I have yet to see any valid claim that Democrats want to confiscate guns.

The Democrat platform is lessening of gun ownership. There's very few that want to confiscate guns completely, but they surely do believe in a very restricted gun rights ordinance.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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5/22/2016 7:12:17 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 7:10:13 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 2:46:53 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 2:45:31 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/21/2016 11:37:47 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
That's pretty much decided for.

The NRA always endorses a right wing candidate, whether it's a Republican or a Libertarian. Hillary will never get an NRA endorsement for presidency,

Yeah because closing the background check loophole is anti NRA. In the mean time Trump and NRA shrill continue to lie by saying Democrats want to take all guns away.


Democrats are consistently trying to limit gun ownership and the ability to own certain types of ammo. What the hell are you talking about? Are you really going to tell me that Democrats are pro gun ownership?

A discussion about what types of "arms" and ammo is available to citizens as well as who is should be eligible to own them is a very valid. The right to bare arms is restricted. The argument of the nature of those restrictions is valid on both sides.

However it is rare to see Republicans frame the discussionext in a legitimate way, because lie and say that Democrats want to take guns away.

I have yet to see any valid claim that Democrats want to confiscate guns.

Trump lied and said the Clinton wants to abolish the second amendment. If that is not an out right lie then I don't know what a lie is.
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5/22/2016 8:15:21 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
I'm rather surprised that the NRA waited this long to endorse Trump. They sort of did it at the last minute.
I'm not sure what to put here yet. Someone please give me some suggestions.
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5/22/2016 8:22:20 PM
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At 5/21/2016 2:39:38 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

http://thehill.com...

This article is why the Dems are anti-2nd amendment...really? Suing a gun manufacturer for producing a product that functions as intended? What a subversive way to ban guns by attacking the legal producers.
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5/23/2016 12:08:42 AM
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At 5/22/2016 8:22:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/21/2016 2:39:38 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

http://thehill.com...

This article is why the Dems are anti-2nd amendment...really? Suing a gun manufacturer for producing a product that functions as intended? What a subversive way to ban guns by attacking the legal producers.

It's one of the stupidest policies ever pushed by dems. Let's also sue car manufacturers when we get in accidents or sue computer manufacturers when we get hacked. Seriously... so dumb.
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5/23/2016 12:16:20 AM
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At 5/23/2016 12:08:42 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 5/22/2016 8:22:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/21/2016 2:39:38 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

http://thehill.com...

This article is why the Dems are anti-2nd amendment...really? Suing a gun manufacturer for producing a product that functions as intended? What a subversive way to ban guns by attacking the legal producers.

It's one of the stupidest policies ever pushed by dems. Let's also sue car manufacturers when we get in accidents or sue computer manufacturers when we get hacked. Seriously... so dumb.

That's not even the proper analogy.

They want drunk driver victims to sue the car company for selling cars irresponsibly....

They want hacked victims that surf porn to be able to sue Dell for making a computer that is able to surf the internet as intended....

Guns are made to kill, that is what they do. Sellers have every right to lawfully sell as many guns as possible to anyone that passes a background check. This law is beyond stupid.
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5/23/2016 12:25:17 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 12:16:20 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/23/2016 12:08:42 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 5/22/2016 8:22:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/21/2016 2:39:38 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

http://thehill.com...

This article is why the Dems are anti-2nd amendment...really? Suing a gun manufacturer for producing a product that functions as intended? What a subversive way to ban guns by attacking the legal producers.

It's one of the stupidest policies ever pushed by dems. Let's also sue car manufacturers when we get in accidents or sue computer manufacturers when we get hacked. Seriously... so dumb.

That's not even the proper analogy.

They want drunk driver victims to sue the car company for selling cars irresponsibly....

They want hacked victims that surf porn to be able to sue Dell for making a computer that is able to surf the internet as intended....

Guns are made to kill, that is what they do. Sellers have every right to lawfully sell as many guns as possible to anyone that passes a background check. This law is beyond stupid.

I fully agree.
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5/23/2016 2:22:35 AM
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At 5/22/2016 3:06:17 PM, TN05 wrote:
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Trump can never hold one side for too long....his "principles" and "ideas" sway whenever it's profitable.^
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5/23/2016 3:05:22 PM
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At 5/23/2016 2:22:35 AM, Sam7411 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 3:06:17 PM, TN05 wrote:
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Trump can never hold one side for too long....his "principles" and "ideas" sway whenever it's profitable.^

Over/under on how long it takes for him to admit the wall and deportations are negotiable?
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5/23/2016 3:30:16 PM
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At 5/23/2016 3:05:22 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 2:22:35 AM, Sam7411 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 3:06:17 PM, TN05 wrote:
https://twitter.com...

Trump can never hold one side for too long....his "principles" and "ideas" sway whenever it's profitable.^

Over/under on how long it takes for him to admit the wall and deportations are negotiable?

It'll be a month or so into the general election, there's already been rumors of him negotiating with "wall deal" in secret interviews
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5/23/2016 4:30:52 PM
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At 5/23/2016 3:05:22 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 2:22:35 AM, Sam7411 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 3:06:17 PM, TN05 wrote:
https://twitter.com...

Trump can never hold one side for too long....his "principles" and "ideas" sway whenever it's profitable.^

Over/under on how long it takes for him to admit the wall and deportations are negotiable?

Everything is negotiable.
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5/23/2016 5:43:02 PM
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At 5/23/2016 4:30:52 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/23/2016 3:05:22 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 2:22:35 AM, Sam7411 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 3:06:17 PM, TN05 wrote:
https://twitter.com...

Trump can never hold one side for too long....his "principles" and "ideas" sway whenever it's profitable.^

Over/under on how long it takes for him to admit the wall and deportations are negotiable?

Everything is negotiable.


LMAO
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5/23/2016 5:54:58 PM
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At 5/23/2016 12:16:20 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/23/2016 12:08:42 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 5/22/2016 8:22:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/21/2016 2:39:38 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

http://thehill.com...

This article is why the Dems are anti-2nd amendment...really? Suing a gun manufacturer for producing a product that functions as intended? What a subversive way to ban guns by attacking the legal producers.

It's one of the stupidest policies ever pushed by dems. Let's also sue car manufacturers when we get in accidents or sue computer manufacturers when we get hacked. Seriously... so dumb.

That's not even the proper analogy.

They want drunk driver victims to sue the car company for selling cars irresponsibly....

They want hacked victims that surf porn to be able to sue Dell for making a computer that is able to surf the internet as intended....

Guns are made to kill, that is what they do. Sellers have every right to lawfully sell as many guns as possible to anyone that passes a background check. This law is beyond stupid.

They don't have a right to sell them illegaly such as selling without background checks when required to. Plus it is illegal to sell guns if you know they will be used for illegal purposes, yet another restriction on the 2nd amendment.
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5/23/2016 6:46:55 PM
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At 5/23/2016 5:54:58 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 12:16:20 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/23/2016 12:08:42 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 5/22/2016 8:22:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/21/2016 2:39:38 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

http://thehill.com...

This article is why the Dems are anti-2nd amendment...really? Suing a gun manufacturer for producing a product that functions as intended? What a subversive way to ban guns by attacking the legal producers.

It's one of the stupidest policies ever pushed by dems. Let's also sue car manufacturers when we get in accidents or sue computer manufacturers when we get hacked. Seriously... so dumb.

That's not even the proper analogy.

They want drunk driver victims to sue the car company for selling cars irresponsibly....

They want hacked victims that surf porn to be able to sue Dell for making a computer that is able to surf the internet as intended....

Guns are made to kill, that is what they do. Sellers have every right to lawfully sell as many guns as possible to anyone that passes a background check. This law is beyond stupid.

They don't have a right to sell them illegaly such as selling without background checks when required to. Plus it is illegal to sell guns if you know they will be used for illegal purposes, yet another restriction on the 2nd amendment.

Right, but if you read the statements from the author of the bill, he says gun manufacturers should know how to spot straw purchasers. That's totally stupid and beyond the scope of a gun dealer. Even law enforcement can't do that reliably.
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5/23/2016 6:51:05 PM
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At 5/23/2016 5:43:02 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 4:30:52 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/23/2016 3:05:22 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 2:22:35 AM, Sam7411 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 3:06:17 PM, TN05 wrote:
https://twitter.com...

Trump can never hold one side for too long....his "principles" and "ideas" sway whenever it's profitable.^

Over/under on how long it takes for him to admit the wall and deportations are negotiable?

Everything is negotiable.


LMAO

How predictable that an authoritative, theocratic, right wingnut would LOL at the idea of negotiating....
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5/23/2016 7:35:03 PM
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At 5/23/2016 6:51:05 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:43:02 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 4:30:52 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 5/23/2016 3:05:22 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 2:22:35 AM, Sam7411 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 3:06:17 PM, TN05 wrote:
https://twitter.com...

Trump can never hold one side for too long....his "principles" and "ideas" sway whenever it's profitable.^

Over/under on how long it takes for him to admit the wall and deportations are negotiable?

Everything is negotiable.


LMAO

How predictable that an authoritative

I'm a classical liberal, aka the opposite of authoritarian

theocratic

I'm not a social conservative (I agree on some big issues) and support separation of church and state as a general principle.

right wingnut

Better to be a right wingnut than an aimless idiot

would LOL at the idea of negotiating....

Oh, I like negotiations. Trump's supporters don't.
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5/23/2016 11:15:30 PM
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5/24/2016 12:45:05 AM
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At 5/23/2016 11:15:30 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/21/2016 2:39:38 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
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Next week on "Sh*t I totally could have seen coming...."

Lol, true.
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5/24/2016 12:54:29 AM
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At 5/23/2016 12:08:42 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 5/22/2016 8:22:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
This article is why the Dems are anti-2nd amendment...really? Suing a gun manufacturer for producing a product that functions as intended? What a subversive way to ban guns by attacking the legal producers.
It's one of the stupidest policies ever pushed by dems. Let's also sue car manufacturers when we get in accidents or sue computer manufacturers when we get hacked. Seriously... so dumb.

I think anybody should be "allowed" to sue anybody for anything, as long as the losing side pays everybody's legal fees.

That would do wonders for deterring frivolous lawsuits.
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5/24/2016 1:10:59 AM
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At 5/22/2016 3:06:17 PM, TN05 wrote:
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I don't support most Democrat gun control measures, but I still thought Obama's speech was good.

"We can do more to reduce gun violence" =/= "I support stringent gun control"

The most effective measure we can take to reduce gun violence is enforce already-existent laws against straw-purchases, and reform the criminal justice system to cut down on recidivism rates.
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5/24/2016 1:12:13 AM
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At 5/24/2016 12:54:29 AM, Romanii wrote:
At 5/23/2016 12:08:42 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 5/22/2016 8:22:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
This article is why the Dems are anti-2nd amendment...really? Suing a gun manufacturer for producing a product that functions as intended? What a subversive way to ban guns by attacking the legal producers.
It's one of the stupidest policies ever pushed by dems. Let's also sue car manufacturers when we get in accidents or sue computer manufacturers when we get hacked. Seriously... so dumb.

I think anybody should be "allowed" to sue anybody for anything, as long as the losing side pays everybody's legal fees.

That would do wonders for deterring frivolous lawsuits.

That's an interesting proposal, here's an insight link that gets into that very notion. It seems that's already the case in some instances or states, just not across the board.
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