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The GOP shot itself in the foot with Obama

1harderthanyouthink
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5/28/2016 8:27:18 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
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The average response to this speech from right-wingers, like many other international events Obama took part in, has been poorly executed. The criticism of Obama as disrespecting soldiers has completely fallen flat, and the words that he compared the evils of Japan to America are utterly ridiculous. For anyone who felt like listening (or reading), it was an anti-war speech about collateral damage. It wasn't about America or Japan, it was about not letting the hatred of the enemy or the grayness of war let morality slip. The right-wing, if they continue on their path of criticizing the President for speaking, will only serve to hurt themselves.

Especially if they follow this sort of idiotic advice: http://www.breitbart.com...

But after what they did with the Iran Deal letter, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried. They would fail, of course, and it would only serve to further solidify the view of them as utter fools.
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5/28/2016 8:33:18 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/28/2016 8:27:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://mobile.nytimes.com...

The average response to this speech from right-wingers, like many other international events Obama took part in, has been poorly executed. The criticism of Obama as disrespecting soldiers has completely fallen flat, and the words that he compared the evils of Japan to America are utterly ridiculous. For anyone who felt like listening (or reading), it was an anti-war speech about collateral damage. It wasn't about America or Japan, it was about not letting the hatred of the enemy or the grayness of war let morality slip. The right-wing, if they continue on their path of criticizing the President for speaking, will only serve to hurt themselves.

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Especially if they follow this sort of idiotic advice: http://www.breitbart.com...

But after what they did with the Iran Deal letter, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried. They would fail, of course, and it would only serve to further solidify the view of them as utter fools.
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5/28/2016 8:37:08 PM
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At 5/28/2016 8:33:18 PM, Sam7411 wrote:
At 5/28/2016 8:27:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
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Yup.
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5/28/2016 11:33:20 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/28/2016 8:27:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:

But after what they did with the Iran Deal letter, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried. They would fail, of course, and it would only serve to further solidify the view of them as utter fools.

Hasn't the IRAN deal already fallen apart?

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5/30/2016 2:06:09 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/28/2016 8:27:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://mobile.nytimes.com...

The average response to this speech from right-wingers, like many other international events Obama took part in, has been poorly executed. The criticism of Obama as disrespecting soldiers has completely fallen flat, and the words that he compared the evils of Japan to America are utterly ridiculous. For anyone who felt like listening (or reading), it was an anti-war speech about collateral damage. It wasn't about America or Japan, it was about not letting the hatred of the enemy or the grayness of war let morality slip. The right-wing, if they continue on their path of criticizing the President for speaking, will only serve to hurt themselves.

Especially if they follow this sort of idiotic advice: http://www.breitbart.com...

But after what they did with the Iran Deal letter, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried. They would fail, of course, and it would only serve to further solidify the view of them as utter fools.

He made cuts to the already piss poor Veteran benefits system. But...has money for anything and everything else under the sun...even to the tune of nearly $20,000,000,000,000...
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5/30/2016 2:39:00 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/28/2016 8:27:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://mobile.nytimes.com...

The average response to this speech from right-wingers, like many other international events Obama took part in, has been poorly executed. The criticism of Obama as disrespecting soldiers has completely fallen flat, and the words that he compared the evils of Japan to America are utterly ridiculous. For anyone who felt like listening (or reading), it was an anti-war speech about collateral damage. It wasn't about America or Japan, it was about not letting the hatred of the enemy or the grayness of war let morality slip. The right-wing, if they continue on their path of criticizing the President for speaking, will only serve to hurt themselves.

Especially if they follow this sort of idiotic advice: http://www.breitbart.com...

But after what they did with the Iran Deal letter, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried. They would fail, of course, and it would only serve to further solidify the view of them as utter fools.

lol the GOP would lose their fuucking sh!t is Obama did half the stuff trump did.

imagine if Obama said that Mcain was not a hero, or any of Trumps other lines.
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5/31/2016 2:38:49 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
I think the GOP is not subtle with their demagoguery, but there are some points to be made here. On memorial day weekend, Obama takes a trip to Japan to honor all Japanese war dead? History shows pretty fairly how savage the Japanese military was during that time, and I feel as though Obama should know that and focus more on the civilian casualties. Yet, his speech is dripping with rhetoric implying America should take a large portion of the blame. Here are some quotes that I find fishy:

"death fell from the sky and the world was changed"

- I find this opening quote odd because it immediately implies that America instigated the death during this era.

"Yet in the image of a mushroom cloud that rose into these skies, we are most starkly reminded of humanity"s core contradiction"

- Again, he is highlighting America's dropping as the sole highlight of WW2. Not the horrifying things that occurred before that forced America to join the war (and lose American soldiers that he is basically shrugging off this weekend) in the first place.

"How easily we learn to justify violence in the name of some higher cause."

- Is he questioning our justification for dropping the bomb because a lot of people believe our cause was pretty righteous and Obama should be representing the people of the US.

"Every great religion promises a pathway to love and peace and righteousness, and yet no religion has been spared from believers who have claimed their faith as a license to kill."

- Is he referencing all religion here? Or just Christianity because he has given numerous speeches underscoring the peacefulness of Islam.

"But among those nations like my own that hold nuclear stockpiles, we must have the courage to escape the logic of fear and pursue a world without them."

- I feel like a lot of people can agree that, out of all the nations on the planet, the US is the safest country to possess them. Let us not forget that it was the US' possession of such a weapon that ended WW2.

These are just some points I'm making about the speech. I'm not so much upset about him honoring them, but I am more upset about him creating a big trip out of it especially during Memorial Day weekend.
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6/4/2016 6:02:00 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/28/2016 8:27:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://mobile.nytimes.com...

The average response to this speech from right-wingers, like many other international events Obama took part in, has been poorly executed. The criticism of Obama as disrespecting soldiers has completely fallen flat, and the words that he compared the evils of Japan to America are utterly ridiculous. For anyone who felt like listening (or reading), it was an anti-war speech about collateral damage. It wasn't about America or Japan, it was about not letting the hatred of the enemy or the grayness of war let morality slip. The right-wing, if they continue on their path of criticizing the President for speaking, will only serve to hurt themselves.

Especially if they follow this sort of idiotic advice: http://www.breitbart.com...

But after what they did with the Iran Deal letter, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried. They would fail, of course, and it would only serve to further solidify the view of them as utter fools.

Please. He spent money like it was water on anything and everything(hence $20 trillion in debt), yet he cut the already horrible veterans package and benefits. Fu*k off you unAmerican Communist. Go to Nazi Germany where you belong.
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6/6/2016 12:06:42 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/28/2016 8:37:08 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 5/28/2016 8:33:18 PM, Sam7411 wrote:
At 5/28/2016 8:27:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.debate.org...
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Yup.

Indeed
Meh!