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Is Bernie Sanders weakening his party?

brant.merrell
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6/2/2016 6:57:40 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
I've noticed quite a few opinions stating that the best way for Sanders to strengthen his party, cause, or career is to drop out of the race.

- Why are you still in the race, Bernie? https://www.washingtonpost.com...

- Bernie Sanders can take one of two paths to success http://www.chicagotribune.com...

- Face it, Bernie. It's over. https://www.bostonglobe.com...

- Bernie Sanders is throwing Hillary Clinton to the (Trumpian) wolves http://www.foxnews.com...

- Bernie Sanders, enough with your 'political revolution' http://www.chicagotribune.com...

- Harry Reid to Bernie Sanders: 'Give up' http://www.politico.com...

I thought the democratic party operated under the premise that competition strengthens institutions, whether they be businesses, political parties, or legislative bodies. Perhaps this is not the case?
ContraDictator
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6/2/2016 7:23:22 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 6:57:40 AM, brant.merrell wrote:
I've noticed quite a few opinions stating that the best way for Sanders to strengthen his party, cause, or career is to drop out of the race.
Is Donald Drumpf weakening his party?

Don't throw stones out of a glass-house.
I tend to fight any opinion, regardless of my agreement or disagreement to it. I believe to only fight opinions that you disagree with is a sign of a weak and rigid state of mind.
brant.merrell
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6/2/2016 7:33:39 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 7:23:22 AM, ContraDictator wrote:
At 6/2/2016 6:57:40 AM, brant.merrell wrote:
I've noticed quite a few opinions stating that the best way for Sanders to strengthen his party, cause, or career is to drop out of the race.
Is Donald Drumpf weakening his party?

Don't throw stones out of a glass-house.

Are you suggesting that the stones are being thrown at Sanders from the republican party?

Because I'm asking about the democratic party's touchiness towards Sanders.

Confused by your metaphor.
ContraDictator
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6/2/2016 7:34:38 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 7:33:39 AM, brant.merrell wrote:
At 6/2/2016 7:23:22 AM, ContraDictator wrote:
At 6/2/2016 6:57:40 AM, brant.merrell wrote:
I've noticed quite a few opinions stating that the best way for Sanders to strengthen his party, cause, or career is to drop out of the race.
Is Donald Drumpf weakening his party?

Don't throw stones out of a glass-house.

Are you suggesting that the stones are being thrown at Sanders from the republican party?

Because I'm asking about the democratic party's touchiness towards Sanders.

Confused by your metaphor.

Every candidate weakens their party in order to become the alpha candidate in it. That's how natural selection works and how someone ends up winning the election.
I tend to fight any opinion, regardless of my agreement or disagreement to it. I believe to only fight opinions that you disagree with is a sign of a weak and rigid state of mind.
Midnight1131
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6/2/2016 9:25:08 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Ideologically not so much. Dems were always a high spending, high intrusion, type of party, and Bernie isn't any different. Give it 4 years and almost all of his folks will be back with the party, I guess a few might go Green.
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BrendanD19
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6/2/2016 9:35:33 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 6:57:40 AM, brant.merrell wrote:
I've noticed quite a few opinions stating that the best way for Sanders to strengthen his party, cause, or career is to drop out of the race.

- Why are you still in the race, Bernie? https://www.washingtonpost.com...

- Bernie Sanders can take one of two paths to success http://www.chicagotribune.com...

- Face it, Bernie. It's over. https://www.bostonglobe.com...

- Bernie Sanders is throwing Hillary Clinton to the (Trumpian) wolves http://www.foxnews.com...

- Bernie Sanders, enough with your 'political revolution' http://www.chicagotribune.com...

- Harry Reid to Bernie Sanders: 'Give up' http://www.politico.com...

I thought the democratic party operated under the premise that competition strengthens institutions, whether they be businesses, political parties, or legislative bodies. Perhaps this is not the case?

It really isn't the case. Since the 80s the De,lucrative. establishment has tried to suppress progressive voices of dissent within through smear campaigns, super delegates and dirty tricks. Jesse Jackson, Dennis Kucinich and Howard Dean are prime examples of this.
BrendanD19
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6/2/2016 9:39:32 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 9:25:08 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
Ideologically not so much. Dems were always a high spending, high intrusion, type of party, and Bernie isn't any different. Give it 4 years and almost all of his folks will be back with the party, I guess a few might go Green.

Hi, I'm one of the people who is going Green. And there are a lot of us. To be fair I was a green even before Bernie got into the race, but I still backed Bernie. Many others I know plan to write in Bernie's name, which I think is a terrible idea.
BrendanD19
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6/2/2016 9:40:44 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 6:57:40 AM, brant.merrell wrote:
I've noticed quite a few opinions stating that the best way for Sanders to strengthen his party, cause, or career is to drop out of the race.

- Why are you still in the race, Bernie? https://www.washingtonpost.com...

- Bernie Sanders can take one of two paths to success http://www.chicagotribune.com...

- Face it, Bernie. It's over. https://www.bostonglobe.com...

- Bernie Sanders is throwing Hillary Clinton to the (Trumpian) wolves http://www.foxnews.com...

- Bernie Sanders, enough with your 'political revolution' http://www.chicagotribune.com...

- Harry Reid to Bernie Sanders: 'Give up' http://www.politico.com...

I thought the democratic party operated under the premise that competition strengthens institutions, whether they be businesses, political parties, or legislative bodies. Perhaps this is not the case?

Also all of those editorials were written by people or papers who either endorsed Clinton or have been critical of Bernie from the start.
simplelife
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6/2/2016 11:09:19 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 6:57:40 AM, brant.merrell wrote:
I've noticed quite a few opinions stating that the best way for Sanders to strengthen his party, cause, or career is to drop out of the race.

- Why are you still in the race, Bernie? https://www.washingtonpost.com...

- Bernie Sanders can take one of two paths to success http://www.chicagotribune.com...

- Face it, Bernie. It's over. https://www.bostonglobe.com...

- Bernie Sanders is throwing Hillary Clinton to the (Trumpian) wolves http://www.foxnews.com...

- Bernie Sanders, enough with your 'political revolution' http://www.chicagotribune.com...

- Harry Reid to Bernie Sanders: 'Give up' http://www.politico.com...

I thought the democratic party operated under the premise that competition strengthens institutions, whether they be businesses, political parties, or legislative bodies. Perhaps this is not the case? : :

The party systems that are in place in America were used by the rich to divide and conquer starting soon after the U.S. Constitution was formed in 1776. George Washington warned the U.S. Citizens in his farewell address about the "party spirit" in their minds and not to be persuaded to join party groups that would divide the Citizens so that the rich could distract them with petty issues while changing the Constitution to favor private banks and corporations.

Now we have a country that is filled with private banks and corporations that have made the rich so wealthy that they are now controlling politics and the masses of people who believe the government was working for them.

U.S. Citizens have been slowly waking up to the fact that the wealthy corporate owners and banker families are controlling their governments and eroding their sovereign rights of liberty and freedom from oppression by other people ( bankers and corporations ). This is what happened in Great Britain and this is why the former British people who moved to America fought against the British rule to free themselves from the banker and corporate families that controlled their government.

Now we are just like Great Britain again.
bballcrook21
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6/4/2016 10:28:23 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 9:25:08 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
Ideologically not so much. Dems were always a high spending, high intrusion, type of party, and Bernie isn't any different. Give it 4 years and almost all of his folks will be back with the party, I guess a few might go Green.

Yeah, they've always had that little hint of retardation. Bernie is just making it all come to life 500x over.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/4/2016 10:29:06 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 9:39:32 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 6/2/2016 9:25:08 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
Ideologically not so much. Dems were always a high spending, high intrusion, type of party, and Bernie isn't any different. Give it 4 years and almost all of his folks will be back with the party, I guess a few might go Green.

Hi, I'm one of the people who is going Green. And there are a lot of us. To be fair I was a green even before Bernie got into the race, but I still backed Bernie. Many others I know plan to write in Bernie's name, which I think is a terrible idea.

I remember reading the green party platform where it stated that the income tax on profits that are 10x more than the minimum wage in that specific part of the country have to be 100%.

That's when I realized how retarded the Green Party is.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
Midnight1131
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6/5/2016 2:44:27 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/4/2016 10:28:23 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/2/2016 9:25:08 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
Ideologically not so much. Dems were always a high spending, high intrusion, type of party, and Bernie isn't any different. Give it 4 years and almost all of his folks will be back with the party, I guess a few might go Green.

Yeah, they've always had that little hint of retardation. Bernie is just making it all come to life 500x over.

At least now we know around 40% of the party is all about getting the free stuff.
#GaryJohnson2016
#TaxationisTheft
#TheftisTaxation
bballcrook21
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6/5/2016 2:57:43 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/5/2016 2:44:27 AM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 6/4/2016 10:28:23 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/2/2016 9:25:08 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
Ideologically not so much. Dems were always a high spending, high intrusion, type of party, and Bernie isn't any different. Give it 4 years and almost all of his folks will be back with the party, I guess a few might go Green.

Yeah, they've always had that little hint of retardation. Bernie is just making it all come to life 500x over.

At least now we know around 40% of the party is all about getting the free stuff.

They always wanted free stuff, just depends on the degree of it.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
Axonly
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6/6/2016 12:14:22 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 9:25:08 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
Ideologically not so much. Dems were always a high spending, high intrusion, type of party, and Bernie isn't any different. Give it 4 years and almost all of his folks will be back with the party, I guess a few might go Green.

Ok then.
Meh!
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6/7/2016 12:33:49 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/2/2016 7:23:22 AM, ContraDictator wrote:
At 6/2/2016 6:57:40 AM, brant.merrell wrote:
I've noticed quite a few opinions stating that the best way for Sanders to strengthen his party, cause, or career is to drop out of the race.
Is Donald Drumpf weakening his party?

Don't throw stones out of a glass-house.

+1
Meh!