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UtherPenguin
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6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Trump victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?
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6/5/2016 11:42:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Trump victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Very high probability.

We cant afford to be the global police force anymore. Isolationism will reign in our ridiculous levels of military spending. Only then we can become a proper socialist nation.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
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6/5/2016 11:49:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Also, there really is little difference between Venezuela blaming the USA for it's internal disasters, and Cameron blaming Trump for UK's immigration disasters. Politicians should all burn and fry with how irresponsible they are to the people they represent.
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6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Trump victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.
"Hate begets hate"
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6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
Axonly
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6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.
"Hate begets hate"
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6/6/2016 1:17:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Trump victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

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6/6/2016 1:19:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

UK isn't a 3rd world nation.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
Axonly
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6/6/2016 1:20:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:19:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

UK isn't a 3rd world nation.

Didn't say "UK"
"Hate begets hate"
bballcrook21
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6/6/2016 1:20:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

Third world countries aren't helped when governments give money to corrupt governments overseas. It's only helpful when charities invest and governments pressure authoritarians to chip away their power.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/6/2016 1:20:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:20:02 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:19:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

UK isn't a 3rd world nation.

Didn't say "UK"

Who do you think "them" is? Are you trolling?
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
bballcrook21
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6/6/2016 1:21:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

And by the way, we give money to more than just third world countries. We give a lot more to nations that we need to be allied with us if we want to stay internationalist.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/6/2016 1:22:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:20:41 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

Third world countries aren't helped when governments give money to corrupt governments overseas. It's only helpful when charities invest and governments pressure authoritarians to chip away their power.

Not really looking for an argument, but whatever.
"Hate begets hate"
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6/6/2016 1:23:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:22:01 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:20:41 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

Third world countries aren't helped when governments give money to corrupt governments overseas. It's only helpful when charities invest and governments pressure authoritarians to chip away their power.

Not really looking for an argument, but whatever.

Then don't respond to my comments and leave the site. Name is "debate.org" for a reason.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/6/2016 1:23:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:20:48 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:20:02 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:19:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

UK isn't a 3rd world nation.

Didn't say "UK"

Who do you think "them" is? Are you trolling?

"Them" is ambiguous, I think its fair to assume that it could be any country in the world, hence the third world countries.

And yes you are doing the "Are you trolling?" thing, when you know I am not trolling, in an attempt to passively make me feel dumb. Gg, you get the humanitarian of the year award.
"Hate begets hate"
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6/6/2016 1:24:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:22:01 AM, Axonly wrote:


Not really looking for an argument, but whatever.

Heil Trump.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
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For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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6/6/2016 1:24:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:21:12 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

And by the way, we give money to more than just third world countries. We give a lot more to nations that we need to be allied with us if we want to stay internationalist.

That is true.
"Hate begets hate"
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6/6/2016 1:26:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:23:51 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:20:48 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:20:02 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:19:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

UK isn't a 3rd world nation.

Didn't say "UK"

Who do you think "them" is? Are you trolling?

"Them" is ambiguous, I think its fair to assume that it could be any country in the world, hence the third world countries.

And yes you are doing the "Are you trolling?" thing, when you know I am not trolling, in an attempt to passively make me feel dumb. Gg, you get the humanitarian of the year award.

Whatever, you took the time to misspell Trump's name when you replied, and then faked victimhood when called out on your trolly behavior. So pathetic. How much is Hillary paying you to troll anyway?
Just curious.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
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That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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6/6/2016 1:32:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:26:30 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:23:51 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:20:48 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:20:02 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:19:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

UK isn't a 3rd world nation.

Didn't say "UK"

Who do you think "them" is? Are you trolling?

"Them" is ambiguous, I think its fair to assume that it could be any country in the world, hence the third world countries.

And yes you are doing the "Are you trolling?" thing, when you know I am not trolling, in an attempt to passively make me feel dumb. Gg, you get the humanitarian of the year award.

Whatever, you took the time to misspell Drumpf's name when you replied

http://journals.plos.org...

and then faked victimhood when called out on your trolly behavior. So pathetic.

You know what you did, but you will probably try to justify it anyway.

How much is Hillary paying you to troll anyway?
Just curious.

Remember when you accused me of trolly behavior?
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6/6/2016 1:32:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/6/2016 1:26:30 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:23:51 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:20:48 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:20:02 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:19:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

UK isn't a 3rd world nation.

Didn't say "UK"

Who do you think "them" is? Are you trolling?

"Them" is ambiguous, I think its fair to assume that it could be any country in the world, hence the third world countries.

And yes you are doing the "Are you trolling?" thing, when you know I am not trolling, in an attempt to passively make me feel dumb. Gg, you get the humanitarian of the year award.

Whatever, you took the time to misspell Trump's name when you replied, and then faked victimhood when called out on your trolly behavior. So pathetic. How much is Hillary paying you to troll anyway?
Just curious.

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6/6/2016 1:37:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Trump victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

If Trump keeps his word, his foreign policy wouldn't be that bad. But the problem is, he rarely keeps his word. He's flipped flopped on too many issues, I have no idea what his real intent is.
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6/6/2016 1:47:54 AM
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At 6/6/2016 1:37:36 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
he rarely keeps his word. He's flipped flopped on too many issues, I have no idea what his real intent is.

Is this proof that Donald Trump is actually a spawn of Clinton?
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6/6/2016 1:57:41 AM
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American isolationism will naturally result in a more postmodern and ideologically diverse world. You'll have more theocracies, more communist/fascist regimes, and so on. Honestly, this isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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6/6/2016 2:00:50 AM
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At 6/6/2016 1:47:54 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:37:36 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
he rarely keeps his word. He's flipped flopped on too many issues, I have no idea what his real intent is.

Is this proof that Donald Trump is actually a spawn of Clinton?

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6/6/2016 2:01:51 AM
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At 6/6/2016 1:47:54 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:37:36 AM, tajshar2k wrote:
he rarely keeps his word. He's flipped flopped on too many issues, I have no idea what his real intent is.

Is this proof that Donald Trump is actually a spawn of Clinton?

Clinton wouldn't touch Isolationism with a 10 foot establishment pole.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
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6/6/2016 2:04:10 AM
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At 6/6/2016 1:57:41 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
American isolationism will naturally result in a more postmodern and ideologically diverse world. You'll have more theocracies, more communist/fascist regimes, and so on. Honestly, this isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The only thing holding American socialism back is the 25% of the budget allocated to the military and other foreign nation subsidies. Trump isolationism is a liberal's wetdream.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
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6/6/2016 2:13:47 AM
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I really don't care if Jews, Europeans and the rest of the lot get mad that they can no longer use Anerican troops as cannon fodder.
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6/6/2016 2:15:03 AM
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At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

And how does killing their people do that?
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6/6/2016 2:18:40 AM
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At 6/6/2016 2:15:03 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/6/2016 1:17:20 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:36:32 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:29:49 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/5/2016 11:57:21 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 6/5/2016 9:17:58 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
What is the likelihood of the US slowly returning to diplomatic isolationism with a Drumpf victory? With the public condemnation of world leaders , most consequently David Cameron as this would signal major disapproval from one of the US' closest ally. Would this trend shift to approval if he becomes president or will it be the beginning of a growing isolationism. Are the general fears of terrorism enough to prevent this from occurring?

Thoughts?

Isolationism is a good thing. We don't need to get wrapped up in wars and we don't need to be allied with every nation and waste our money helping them.

Would be a good thing to do though.

Good thing to do what? Be isolationist or get wrapped up in wars?

"waste our money helping them"

Don't know about you, but I like the idea of trying to help third world countries.

And how does killing their people do that?

Was referring more to poverty development, but ok.
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