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Omar Mateen's (insane) father

1harderthanyouthink
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6/13/2016 8:47:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar.

http://www.cbsnews.com...

Uh...thoughts on that?

I think it's clear where the shooter got his views from - he didn't need ISIS to radicalize him.
Why?

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6/13/2016 9:18:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/13/2016 8:47:43 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar.

http://www.cbsnews.com...

Uh...thoughts on that?

I think it's clear where the shooter got his views from - he didn't need ISIS to radicalize him.

His father is simply trying to put the blame on his son's behavior and pretend as if it's just an accident. You can see in his face, there is no real regret. He's trying to hush off any suspicion.
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6/13/2016 9:18:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/13/2016 9:18:25 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 6/13/2016 8:47:43 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar.

http://www.cbsnews.com...

Uh...thoughts on that?

I think it's clear where the shooter got his views from - he didn't need ISIS to radicalize him.

His father is simply trying to put the blame on his son's behavior and pretend as if it's just an accident. You can see in his face, there is no real regret. He's trying to hush off any suspicion.

I couldn't help but noting this, but his dad looks almost like Saddam Hussein.
ThinkBig
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6/13/2016 9:25:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/13/2016 9:18:25 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 6/13/2016 8:47:43 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar.

http://www.cbsnews.com...

Uh...thoughts on that?

I think it's clear where the shooter got his views from - he didn't need ISIS to radicalize him.

His father is simply trying to put the blame on his son's behavior and pretend as if it's just an accident. You can see in his face, there is no real regret. He's trying to hush off any suspicion.

That's what I thought as well.
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Rukado
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6/13/2016 9:27:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/13/2016 8:47:43 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
I think it's clear where the shooter got his views from - he didn't need ISIS to radicalize him.

Where'd you get your antisemitism from?
TBR
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6/13/2016 9:49:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/13/2016 8:47:43 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar.

http://www.cbsnews.com...

Uh...thoughts on that?

I think it's clear where the shooter got his views from - he didn't need ISIS to radicalize him.

Yea. That is... Expected???
1harderthanyouthink
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6/13/2016 10:26:17 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/13/2016 9:49:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/13/2016 8:47:43 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar.

http://www.cbsnews.com...

Uh...thoughts on that?

I think it's clear where the shooter got his views from - he didn't need ISIS to radicalize him.

Yea. That is... Expected???

No. A lot of news sources focus on what ties Omar could have had with foreign radicals, when the problem was so obviously under their noses in all respects.
Why?

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Axonly
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6/15/2016 9:47:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/13/2016 9:18:58 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 6/13/2016 9:18:25 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 6/13/2016 8:47:43 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar.

http://www.cbsnews.com...

Uh...thoughts on that?

I think it's clear where the shooter got his views from - he didn't need ISIS to radicalize him.

His father is simply trying to put the blame on his son's behavior and pretend as if it's just an accident. You can see in his face, there is no real regret. He's trying to hush off any suspicion.

I couldn't help but noting this, but his dad looks almost like Saddam Hussein.

Someone alert the media!
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