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TN05
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6/14/2016 9:15:59 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
http://www.bloomberg.com...

New Bloomberg poll. Clinton 49%, Trump 37%, Gary Johnson 9%. 55% of those polled (including 63% of women and similar proportions among people under 35 and people making less than $50,000) said they could never vote for Donald Trump, whereas 43% said they could never vote for Hillary. Hillary wins 77% of nonwhites while Trump only wins 50% of whites.

As for Sanders supporters flipping en masse to Trump, not the case. 55% would vote for Hillary, 22% for Trump and 18% for Johnson. Two-thirds of voters felt Trump was becoming less appealing, not more, as opposed to 51% for Clinton.

Trump does have one bright spot in this poll, which is that he narrowly leads voters on who would better deal with terrorism. But 69% disagree with his plan to surveil Muslims.
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6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM
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dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.
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6/14/2016 9:26:19 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

I agree, especially considering how many polls are manipulated to favor a certain candidate.
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6/14/2016 9:29:27 PM
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At 6/14/2016 9:26:19 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

I agree, especially considering how many polls are manipulated to favor a certain candidate.
and the fact that they tend to contradict each other.
and the fact that they're extremely dynamic.
and the fact that their predictions are routinely violated in reality.
et cetera.
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6/14/2016 9:35:12 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
The election is a long ways off and if Trump changes his tone, he might still pull off a win with moderate voters. But, the neocons who lied us into the Iraq war want Hillary to win, and they own a lot of Evangelical Useful Idiots.
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6/14/2016 9:40:32 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

This won't end since the op is a staunchly anti Trump
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6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
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6/14/2016 10:02:46 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.

Fact, Trump beat everyone else despite polls.

The End.
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6/14/2016 10:13:14 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is ["]facts["].
FTFY

you're confusing ideology and truth-esque-ness with facts again teenee. do you even believe in facts?

Polls predicted a Sanders nomination...which never happened.
Polls predicted a Cruz nomination...which similarly never happened.

And they predicted trump's 30- I mean 40- I mean 50% ceiling. none of which existed.

Trump was topping Clinton on RCP a bit ago. The fact that polling data is dynamic and can be influenced by recent events can't possibly have anything to do with anything, right?

Inaccurate polling trends can't possibly change between now and November. Obviously.

But this poll is different, right?

you're regurgitating jive.
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6/14/2016 10:15:09 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 9:15:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com...

New Bloomberg poll. Clinton 49%, Trump 37%, Gary Johnson 9%. 55% of those polled (including 63% of women and similar proportions among people under 35 and people making less than $50,000) said they could never vote for Donald Trump, whereas 43% said they could never vote for Hillary. Hillary wins 77% of nonwhites while Trump only wins 50% of whites.

As for Sanders supporters flipping en masse to Trump, not the case. 55% would vote for Hillary, 22% for Trump and 18% for Johnson. Two-thirds of voters felt Trump was becoming less appealing, not more, as opposed to 51% for Clinton.

Trump does have one bright spot in this poll, which is that he narrowly leads voters on who would better deal with terrorism. But 69% disagree with his plan to surveil Muslims.
Somehow I knew TN05 would be posting this . . .
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6/14/2016 10:54:01 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 10:13:14 PM, someloser wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is ["]facts["].
FTFY

you're confusing ideology and truth-esque-ness with facts again teenee. do you even believe in facts?

Do you?

Polls predicted a Sanders nomination...which never happened.

Actually, they never did. Only four polls since the start of the campaign showed a Sanders lead, none of which were outside the margin of error. The lead narrowed over time but never was in danger. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com...)

Polls predicted a Cruz nomination...which similarly never happened.

Nope. Polls since July of last year showed a consistent Trump lead. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com...)

The thing pundits weren't sure of was whether 35-40% of the vote would be enough to get the nomination, which it ultimately was.

And they predicted trump's 30- I mean 40- I mean 50% ceiling. none of which existed.

He did have a ceiling up until New York. He never broke 50% until then.

Trump was topping Clinton on RCP a bit ago.

By 0.2 percentage points. That's an achievement considering he was down 10, but also entirely attributable to securing support from most Republicans. (http://www.realclearpolitics.com...) Since then, his average in polls has plummeted dramatically - which is most likely due to his recent nonsense since Clinton has basically stayed even.

The fact that polling data is dynamic and can be influenced by recent events can't possibly have anything to do with anything, right?

They are impacted by events. And recent events seem to have unsettled a ton of people Trump needs to win.

Inaccurate polling trends can't possibly change between now and November. Obviously.

But this poll is different, right?

you're regurgitating jive.

When did I say this was the end-all poll? All I did was point out that, according to it, 55% are #NeverTrump, which seems like it fried your brain.
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6/14/2016 11:03:13 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.

No, that's the easiest way to piss off a Bernie supporter, feminist, Muslim apologist, etc.
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Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/14/2016 11:03:31 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 10:15:09 PM, NewLifeChristian wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:15:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com...

New Bloomberg poll. Clinton 49%, Trump 37%, Gary Johnson 9%. 55% of those polled (including 63% of women and similar proportions among people under 35 and people making less than $50,000) said they could never vote for Donald Trump, whereas 43% said they could never vote for Hillary. Hillary wins 77% of nonwhites while Trump only wins 50% of whites.

As for Sanders supporters flipping en masse to Trump, not the case. 55% would vote for Hillary, 22% for Trump and 18% for Johnson. Two-thirds of voters felt Trump was becoming less appealing, not more, as opposed to 51% for Clinton.

Trump does have one bright spot in this poll, which is that he narrowly leads voters on who would better deal with terrorism. But 69% disagree with his plan to surveil Muslims.
Somehow I knew TN05 would be posting this . . .

Who would've guessed...
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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6/14/2016 11:07:30 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
+1
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6/15/2016 4:08:23 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 11:07:30 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
+1

You don't support Trump?
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6/15/2016 4:12:31 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/15/2016 4:08:23 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/14/2016 11:07:30 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
+1

You don't support Trump?
no I don't support someone who only has the freedom to say whatever the hell they want to because they silence opposition by winning in court, or buying their way out of trouble.
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6/15/2016 4:14:46 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/15/2016 4:12:31 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:08:23 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/14/2016 11:07:30 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
+1

You don't support Trump?
no I don't support someone who only has the freedom to say whatever the hell they want to because they silence opposition by winning in court, or buying their way out of trouble.

I mean Hillary has done bad things too, I just kinda assumed you would pick the candidate who has the best policies for the black community.
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6/15/2016 4:18:07 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/15/2016 4:14:46 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:12:31 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:08:23 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/14/2016 11:07:30 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
+1

You don't support Trump?
no I don't support someone who only has the freedom to say whatever the hell they want to because they silence opposition by winning in court, or buying their way out of trouble.

I mean Hillary has done bad things too, I just kinda assumed you would pick the candidate who has the best policies for the black community.

I can't stand Hillary either - I supported Sanders. I will vote 3rd party. I'm not gonna vote for an arbitrary as$hole who would get wooped if he talked the way he does without money to back him. It's the thing I despise most. That people with money have their 1st amendment rights but everyone else is expected to cowtow to them.
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6/15/2016 4:25:03 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/15/2016 4:18:07 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:14:46 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:12:31 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:08:23 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/14/2016 11:07:30 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
+1

You don't support Trump?
no I don't support someone who only has the freedom to say whatever the hell they want to because they silence opposition by winning in court, or buying their way out of trouble.

I mean Hillary has done bad things too, I just kinda assumed you would pick the candidate who has the best policies for the black community.

I can't stand Hillary either - I supported Sanders. I will vote 3rd party. I'm not gonna vote for an arbitrary as$hole who would get wooped if he talked the way he does without money to back him. It's the thing I despise most. That people with money have their 1st amendment rights but everyone else is expected to cowtow to them.

Why would he get wooped?

Good for you for voting third party, but I don't hate black people, so I will vote for somebody with a realistic chance of winning that will help them, even if I don't like his rhetoric. Especially since rhetoric has nothing to do with policy positions
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6/15/2016 4:30:15 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/15/2016 4:25:03 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:18:07 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:14:46 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:12:31 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:08:23 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/14/2016 11:07:30 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
+1

You don't support Trump?
no I don't support someone who only has the freedom to say whatever the hell they want to because they silence opposition by winning in court, or buying their way out of trouble.

I mean Hillary has done bad things too, I just kinda assumed you would pick the candidate who has the best policies for the black community.

I can't stand Hillary either - I supported Sanders. I will vote 3rd party. I'm not gonna vote for an arbitrary as$hole who would get wooped if he talked the way he does without money to back him. It's the thing I despise most. That people with money have their 1st amendment rights but everyone else is expected to cowtow to them.

Why would he get wooped?

Good for you for voting third party, but I don't hate black people, so I will vote for somebody with a realistic chance of winning that will help them, even if I don't like his rhetoric. Especially since rhetoric has nothing to do with policy positions

His policy positions are all over the place. He is a con artist I'd never trust. #NeverTrustTrump
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6/15/2016 4:36:04 AM
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At 6/15/2016 4:12:31 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 4:08:23 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/14/2016 11:07:30 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.
+1

You don't support Trump?
no I don't support someone who only has the freedom to say whatever the hell they want to because they silence opposition by winning in court, or buying their way out of trouble.

He aint as good at getting away with stuff as Hillary. He just don't have the connections yet.
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6/15/2016 4:47:10 AM
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At 6/14/2016 10:02:46 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:19:57 PM, someloser wrote:
dear fvcking god.

IDK how many times it has to be demonstrated that polling tends to mean jack shjt in this cycle...especially this early on in the election...2, 3, 4 more times?

seriously.

As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is facts.

Fact, Trump beat everyone else despite polls.

No, he won because of the polls. He led the entire time, and the polls simply reflected his lead and eventual win. If anything, if we accepted polls 100%, every pundit would have predicted a Trump win in August. So this whole "polls are useless" thing emanating from your camp is just silly.


The End.
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6/15/2016 5:30:30 AM
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His policy positions are all over the place. He is a con artist I'd never trust. #NeverTrustTrump

They are?

Like he flip flops on building a wall and stuff?
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6/15/2016 12:56:44 PM
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At 6/15/2016 5:30:30 AM, Wylted wrote:

His policy positions are all over the place. He is a con artist I'd never trust. #NeverTrustTrump

They are?

Like he flip flops on building a wall and stuff?
Here are some examples: http://www.cnn.com...
I'm against the wall anyhow.
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6/15/2016 6:06:04 PM
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At 6/15/2016 12:56:44 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 5:30:30 AM, Wylted wrote:

His policy positions are all over the place. He is a con artist I'd never trust. #NeverTrustTrump

They are?

Like he flip flops on building a wall and stuff?
Here are some examples: http://www.cnn.com...
I'm against the wall anyhow.

Why?
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6/15/2016 8:44:05 PM
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At 6/14/2016 10:13:14 PM, someloser wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:45:36 PM, TN05 wrote:
As I expected, the easiest way to piss off a Trump supporter is ["]facts["].
FTFY

you're confusing ideology and truth-esque-ness with facts again teenee. do you even believe in facts?

Polls predicted a Sanders nomination...which never happened.
Polls predicted a Cruz nomination...which similarly never happened.

And they predicted trump's 30- I mean 40- I mean 50% ceiling. none of which existed.

Trump was topping Clinton on RCP a bit ago. The fact that polling data is dynamic and can be influenced by recent events can't possibly have anything to do with anything, right?

Inaccurate polling trends can't possibly change between now and November. Obviously.

But this poll is different, right?

you're regurgitating jive.

Polling is very accurate for what it is. It is the mood or sentiment at this moment. Very useful.

Now... I have never seen ANY poll predicting what you have said.
Polls predicted a Sanders nomination...which never happened.
Polls predicted a Cruz nomination...which similarly never happened.

but whatever. Just ignore good statistical information about your demigod. Keep just living in the world where everyone LOVES Trump - and watch for the loss.
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6/15/2016 9:31:20 PM
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At 6/14/2016 9:15:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com...

New Bloomberg poll. Clinton 49%, Trump 37%, Gary Johnson 9%. 55% of those polled (including 63% of women and similar proportions among people under 35 and people making less than $50,000) said they could never vote for Donald Trump, whereas 43% said they could never vote for Hillary. Hillary wins 77% of nonwhites while Trump only wins 50% of whites.

As for Sanders supporters flipping en masse to Trump, not the case. 55% would vote for Hillary, 22% for Trump and 18% for Johnson. Two-thirds of voters felt Trump was becoming less appealing, not more, as opposed to 51% for Clinton.

Trump does have one bright spot in this poll, which is that he narrowly leads voters on who would better deal with terrorism. But 69% disagree with his plan to surveil Muslims.

This poll says the same thing.

The poll finds 70 percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of Trump, including a 56 percent majority who feel this way "strongly." Negative ratings of Trump are up 10 percentage points from last month to their highest point since he announced his candidacy last summer, nearly reaching the level seen before his campaign began (71 percent).

https://www.washingtonpost.com...
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6/15/2016 9:53:30 PM
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At 6/15/2016 9:31:20 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:15:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com...

New Bloomberg poll. Clinton 49%, Trump 37%, Gary Johnson 9%. 55% of those polled (including 63% of women and similar proportions among people under 35 and people making less than $50,000) said they could never vote for Donald Trump, whereas 43% said they could never vote for Hillary. Hillary wins 77% of nonwhites while Trump only wins 50% of whites.

As for Sanders supporters flipping en masse to Trump, not the case. 55% would vote for Hillary, 22% for Trump and 18% for Johnson. Two-thirds of voters felt Trump was becoming less appealing, not more, as opposed to 51% for Clinton.

Trump does have one bright spot in this poll, which is that he narrowly leads voters on who would better deal with terrorism. But 69% disagree with his plan to surveil Muslims.

This poll says the same thing.

The poll finds 70 percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of Trump, including a 56 percent majority who feel this way "strongly." Negative ratings of Trump are up 10 percentage points from last month to their highest point since he announced his candidacy last summer, nearly reaching the level seen before his campaign began (71 percent).

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

They are just going to live in the world of delusion till he looses in grand fashion.
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6/16/2016 12:13:05 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/15/2016 6:06:04 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 6/15/2016 12:56:44 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 6/15/2016 5:30:30 AM, Wylted wrote:

His policy positions are all over the place. He is a con artist I'd never trust. #NeverTrustTrump

They are?

Like he flip flops on building a wall and stuff?
Here are some examples: http://www.cnn.com...
I'm against the wall anyhow.

Why?
There's no need for one. If the states that border Mexico would want to individually fund the building of the wall and have the approval of congress, I would be neutral to the idea, but a president who hasn't gotten elected, running on building a wall as the main portion of his platform is only to incite the emotions of those who blame Mexicans for their own inability to be happy working jobs that Mexicans are ok with. They think when Mexicans are gone that wages in these jobs will go up, but they won't. They'd probably attempt to force other undesirables to take those jobs with even lower wages.
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6/16/2016 12:49:36 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/15/2016 9:53:30 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/15/2016 9:31:20 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 6/14/2016 9:15:59 PM, TN05 wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com...

New Bloomberg poll. Clinton 49%, Trump 37%, Gary Johnson 9%. 55% of those polled (including 63% of women and similar proportions among people under 35 and people making less than $50,000) said they could never vote for Donald Trump, whereas 43% said they could never vote for Hillary. Hillary wins 77% of nonwhites while Trump only wins 50% of whites.

As for Sanders supporters flipping en masse to Trump, not the case. 55% would vote for Hillary, 22% for Trump and 18% for Johnson. Two-thirds of voters felt Trump was becoming less appealing, not more, as opposed to 51% for Clinton.

Trump does have one bright spot in this poll, which is that he narrowly leads voters on who would better deal with terrorism. But 69% disagree with his plan to surveil Muslims.

This poll says the same thing.

The poll finds 70 percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of Trump, including a 56 percent majority who feel this way "strongly." Negative ratings of Trump are up 10 percentage points from last month to their highest point since he announced his candidacy last summer, nearly reaching the level seen before his campaign began (71 percent).

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

They are just going to live in the world of delusion till he looses in grand fashion.

Yup. There maybe an alternate universe where a man baby can be President, but it does not look like we live in that universe.