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6/17/2016 4:19:47 PM
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Should the Oxford comma be used in writing?

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6/17/2016 5:11:05 PM
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My favorite foods:

Pizza, hamburgers and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

Or:

Pizza, hamburgers, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
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6/18/2016 7:44:55 PM
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Eh, I use it because I was taught to use it. It's natural for me, but I'm unaware of any of the arguments for or against it -- seems like a silly subject to debate, lol.
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6/18/2016 11:32:21 PM
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At 6/18/2016 7:44:55 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Eh, I use it because I was taught to use it. It's natural for me, but I'm unaware of any of the arguments for or against it -- seems like a silly subject to debate, lol.

People debate about Bathrooms, why not debate about grammar?
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6/18/2016 11:34:13 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/18/2016 11:32:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:44:55 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Eh, I use it because I was taught to use it. It's natural for me, but I'm unaware of any of the arguments for or against it -- seems like a silly subject to debate, lol.

People debate about Bathrooms, why not debate about grammar?

Those debates are silly, too, lol.... but, by all means, go for it.
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6/18/2016 11:38:38 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/18/2016 11:34:13 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/18/2016 11:32:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:44:55 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Eh, I use it because I was taught to use it. It's natural for me, but I'm unaware of any of the arguments for or against it -- seems like a silly subject to debate, lol.

People debate about Bathrooms, why not debate about grammar?

Those debates are silly, too, lol.... but, by all means, go for it.

Hey, I was just creating some drama that the Grammar Nazi's can marinate in.
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6/18/2016 11:48:31 PM
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At 6/17/2016 4:19:47 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
Should the Oxford comma be used in writing?

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Yes.
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6/18/2016 11:49:31 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/18/2016 11:38:38 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/18/2016 11:34:13 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
At 6/18/2016 11:32:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:44:55 PM, ResponsiblyIrresponsible wrote:
Eh, I use it because I was taught to use it. It's natural for me, but I'm unaware of any of the arguments for or against it -- seems like a silly subject to debate, lol.

People debate about Bathrooms, why not debate about grammar?

Those debates are silly, too, lol.... but, by all means, go for it.

Hey, I was just creating some drama that the Grammar Nazi's can marinate in.

Fair enough, haha.
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6/18/2016 11:58:28 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/18/2016 11:48:31 PM, Midnight1131 wrote:
At 6/17/2016 4:19:47 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
Should the Oxford comma be used in writing?

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https://www.youtube.com...

Yes.

I don't think it should. I never use it and why do you need it when you already have the "and"
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6/19/2016 5:32:40 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 4:19:47 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
Should the Oxford comma be used in writing?

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https://www.youtube.com...

I'm an Oxford Comma fan, because it helps keep sentence structure clear and organized.
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6/19/2016 11:01:59 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/19/2016 5:32:40 AM, YYW wrote:
At 6/17/2016 4:19:47 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
Should the Oxford comma be used in writing?

Discuss

https://www.youtube.com...

I'm an Oxford Comma fan, because it helps keep sentence structure clear and organized.

Indeed. There are exceptions, however.
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6/19/2016 12:13:00 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/19/2016 5:35:26 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

haha hilarious and relevant. Debate over.

? What are you referring to here?
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6/19/2016 5:24:51 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/19/2016 12:13:00 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/19/2016 5:35:26 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

haha hilarious and relevant. Debate over.

? What are you referring to here?

Ore_Ele's link shows why the lack of the OC could create some hilarious confusion, and it's therefore a great argument in favor of the OC.
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6/19/2016 5:31:48 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 4:19:47 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
Should the Oxford comma be used in writing?

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I invited the stripers, hitler, and stalin to the dinner.

Without the comma it would read

I invited the strippers, hitler and stalin to the dinner.
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6/20/2016 3:31:25 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
The Oxford comma can both resolve and create ambiguity.

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6/20/2016 3:35:06 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/20/2016 3:31:25 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
The Oxford comma can both resolve and create ambiguity.

http://www.debate.org...

Okay, I've watched the video and they accept that. However, in the debate I've linked to, I've also showed that their other argument, that the Oxford comma better matches prosody, is not correct.
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

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http://www.debate.org...

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6/20/2016 4:45:55 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/19/2016 12:13:00 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/19/2016 5:35:26 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

haha hilarious and relevant. Debate over.

? What are you referring to here?

We invited the stripper, JFK, and Stalin. <- JFK is a stripper
We invited the stripper, JFK and Stalin. <- the stripper and JFK are different people
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

Don't be a stat cynic:
http://www.debate.org...

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6/20/2016 5:00:53 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/20/2016 4:45:55 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 6/19/2016 12:13:00 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/19/2016 5:35:26 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

haha hilarious and relevant. Debate over.

? What are you referring to here?

We invited the stripper, JFK, and Stalin. <- JFK is a stripper
We invited the stripper, JFK and Stalin. <- the stripper and JFK are different people

I think you've misunderstood.

We invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin <----- With the oxford comma, it makes it clear that the strippers, JFK, and Stalin, are three different entities. (Strippers and JFK and Stalin)

We invited the strippers, JFK and Stalin. <----- Without the oxford comma, it makes it appear that the strippers are JFK and Stalin. (The strippers, (Who are) JFK and Stalin)
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6/20/2016 5:31:21 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/20/2016 5:00:53 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/20/2016 4:45:55 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 6/19/2016 12:13:00 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/19/2016 5:35:26 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

haha hilarious and relevant. Debate over.

? What are you referring to here?

We invited the stripper, JFK, and Stalin. <- JFK is a stripper
We invited the stripper, JFK and Stalin. <- the stripper and JFK are different people

I think you've misunderstood.

We invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin <----- With the oxford comma, it makes it clear that the strippers, JFK, and Stalin, are three different entities. (Strippers and JFK and Stalin)

We invited the strippers, JFK and Stalin. <----- Without the oxford comma, it makes it appear that the strippers are JFK and Stalin. (The strippers, (Who are) JFK and Stalin)

I removed the 's' from 'stripper'.
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

Don't be a stat cynic:
http://www.debate.org...

Response to conservative views on deforestation:
http://www.debate.org...

Topics I'd like to debate (not debating ATM): http://tinyurl.com...
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6/21/2016 12:06:37 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/20/2016 5:31:21 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 6/20/2016 5:00:53 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/20/2016 4:45:55 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 6/19/2016 12:13:00 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/19/2016 5:35:26 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

haha hilarious and relevant. Debate over.

? What are you referring to here?

We invited the stripper, JFK, and Stalin. <- JFK is a stripper
We invited the stripper, JFK and Stalin. <- the stripper and JFK are different people

I think you've misunderstood.

We invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin <----- With the oxford comma, it makes it clear that the strippers, JFK, and Stalin, are three different entities. (Strippers and JFK and Stalin)

We invited the strippers, JFK and Stalin. <----- Without the oxford comma, it makes it appear that the strippers are JFK and Stalin. (The strippers, (Who are) JFK and Stalin)

I removed the 's' from 'stripper'.

So you are limited to only one stripper. What a sad life.
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6/21/2016 8:27:28 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/21/2016 12:06:37 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/20/2016 5:31:21 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 6/20/2016 5:00:53 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/20/2016 4:45:55 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 6/19/2016 12:13:00 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/19/2016 5:35:26 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

haha hilarious and relevant. Debate over.

? What are you referring to here?

We invited the stripper, JFK, and Stalin. <- JFK is a stripper
We invited the stripper, JFK and Stalin. <- the stripper and JFK are different people

I think you've misunderstood.

We invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin <----- With the oxford comma, it makes it clear that the strippers, JFK, and Stalin, are three different entities. (Strippers and JFK and Stalin)

We invited the strippers, JFK and Stalin. <----- Without the oxford comma, it makes it appear that the strippers are JFK and Stalin. (The strippers, (Who are) JFK and Stalin)

I removed the 's' from 'stripper'.

So you are limited to only one stripper. What a sad life.

lol welcome back!
The thing is, I hate relativism. I hate relativism more than I hate everything else, excepting, maybe, fibreglass powerboats... What it overlooks, to put it briefly and crudely, is the fixed structure of human nature. - Jerry Fodor

Don't be a stat cynic:
http://www.debate.org...

Response to conservative views on deforestation:
http://www.debate.org...

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6/22/2016 8:16:06 AM
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At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

Lol, yup!
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6/22/2016 12:13:46 PM
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At 6/22/2016 8:16:06 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 6/18/2016 7:50:18 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
https://img.buzzfeed.com...

Lol, yup!

Yay!
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