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PurpleEatter
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6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.
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6/17/2016 6:53:09 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- someone messed up in a very problematic, micro-aggressive sort of way.

How could they possibly describe anything containing the word "patriot" as "gender-neutral"? "Patriot" shares the same etymological roots as "patriarchy", which of course is the institutionalized marginalization of all women and non-cis persons by white males and their privilege. I am literally shaking right now. Also, you're a sexist.
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6/17/2016 6:57:28 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.

It should be "daughters".
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6/17/2016 7:00:14 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 6:53:09 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- someone messed up in a very problematic, micro-aggressive sort of way.

How could they possibly describe anything containing the word "patriot" as "gender-neutral"? "Patriot" shares the same etymological roots as "patriarchy", which of course is the institutionalized marginalization of all women and non-cis persons by white males and their privilege. I am literally shaking right now. Also, you're a sexist.

Please tell me how I am a sexist? I like the idea of anthem being gender neutral but don't think it's the most important problem in Canada.
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6/17/2016 7:07:38 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 7:00:14 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:53:09 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- someone messed up in a very problematic, micro-aggressive sort of way.

How could they possibly describe anything containing the word "patriot" as "gender-neutral"? "Patriot" shares the same etymological roots as "patriarchy", which of course is the institutionalized marginalization of all women and non-cis persons by white males and their privilege. I am literally shaking right now. Also, you're a sexist.

Please tell me how I am a sexist? I like the idea of anthem being gender neutral but don't think it's the most important problem in Canada.

I was being facetious.
PurpleEatter
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6/17/2016 7:10:11 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 7:07:38 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 7:00:14 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:53:09 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- someone messed up in a very problematic, micro-aggressive sort of way.

How could they possibly describe anything containing the word "patriot" as "gender-neutral"? "Patriot" shares the same etymological roots as "patriarchy", which of course is the institutionalized marginalization of all women and non-cis persons by white males and their privilege. I am literally shaking right now. Also, you're a sexist.

Please tell me how I am a sexist? I like the idea of anthem being gender neutral but don't think it's the most important problem in Canada.

I was being facetious.

okay then...
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6/17/2016 7:26:52 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 6:53:09 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- someone messed up in a very problematic, micro-aggressive sort of way.

How could they possibly describe anything containing the word "patriot" as "gender-neutral"? "Patriot" shares the same etymological roots as "patriarchy", which of course is the institutionalized marginalization of all women and non-cis persons by white males and their privilege. I am literally shaking right now. Also, you're a sexist.

Yeah, I don't think you really understand the point of the change.
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6/17/2016 7:38:20 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
I grew up with the line "thy son's" in mind, so I'd probably stick with that regardless of the outcome of the bill.

It is quite frankly a meaninglessly trivial and somewhat bothersome change. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
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6/17/2016 7:50:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 7:26:52 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:53:09 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- someone messed up in a very problematic, micro-aggressive sort of way.

How could they possibly describe anything containing the word "patriot" as "gender-neutral"? "Patriot" shares the same etymological roots as "patriarchy", which of course is the institutionalized marginalization of all women and non-cis persons by white males and their privilege. I am literally shaking right now. Also, you're a sexist.

Yeah, I don't think you really understand the point of the change.

According to OP the point is to become gender-neutral. What else is there to understand?
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6/17/2016 7:55:21 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 7:50:37 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 7:26:52 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:53:09 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- someone messed up in a very problematic, micro-aggressive sort of way.

How could they possibly describe anything containing the word "patriot" as "gender-neutral"? "Patriot" shares the same etymological roots as "patriarchy", which of course is the institutionalized marginalization of all women and non-cis persons by white males and their privilege. I am literally shaking right now. Also, you're a sexist.

Yeah, I don't think you really understand the point of the change.

According to OP the point is to become gender-neutral. What else is there to understand?

The entire context of the political conversation, it seems from your reply.
PurpleEatter
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6/17/2016 8:05:04 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 7:38:20 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
I grew up with the line "thy son's" in mind, so I'd probably stick with that regardless of the outcome of the bill.

It is quite frankly a meaninglessly trivial and somewhat bothersome change. If it's not broken, don't fix it.

I agree with that. I have no problem with the whole gender neutral anthem.. just meaningless. :)
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6/17/2016 8:26:32 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.

I'm so happy and mind-blown that Canada's politicians have worked so hard to pass such an important and pressing bill, which will change the shape of the nation.
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6/17/2016 8:36:53 PM
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At 6/17/2016 8:26:32 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.

I'm so happy and mind-blown that Canada's politicians have worked so hard to pass such an important and pressing bill, which will change the shape of the nation.
glad that you're happy about it. :)
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6/17/2016 9:00:39 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 8:36:53 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
At 6/17/2016 8:26:32 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.

I'm so happy and mind-blown that Canada's politicians have worked so hard to pass such an important and pressing bill, which will change the shape of the nation.
glad that you're happy about it. :)

I hope you know that's sarcasm...
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6/18/2016 12:39:32 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.

We have to learn new words in the anthem...AGAIN!!! Blame the God Damn*d feminists.
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6/18/2016 2:15:19 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.

I have two aunts that are Canadian, and by extension, a bunch of cousins that are Canadian, but don't really care. If a song says "my sons" or "all of us" it doesn't change the rights. No one is being harmed by the words in a song.
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6/18/2016 2:57:55 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.

I don't see any gender specific lines:

Oh Canada, oh Canada,
Your capitals is Ottawa
From Edmonton
To Halifax
You're filled with beavers
And lumberjacks
Oh Canada, oh Canada,
Your capital is Ottawa
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
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6/18/2016 3:12:56 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/18/2016 2:57:55 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 6/17/2016 6:34:27 PM, PurpleEatter wrote:
Ya, so there been a lot of talk about Canada anthem that should be gender-neutral. Many people are pissed and happy about this.

Canada anthem: http://www.metrolyrics.com...

They want to change"true patriot love in all thy sons command' to 'true patriot love in all of us command'

Do you agree with the change?

Me personally, I like the idea being gender neutral but it shouldn't be our main concern. There is a lot of problems in Canada that needs to be focused on before this. Our taxes should go to more important things like the homeless for example.

I don't see any gender specific lines:

Oh Canada, oh Canada,
Your capitals is Ottawa
From Edmonton
To Halifax
You're filled with beavers
And lumberjacks
Oh Canada, oh Canada,
Your capital is Ottawa


I'm not a lumberjack-must be the only male who's not. The other half of the population is definitely beaver.
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6/18/2016 7:12:18 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
Just get rid of that song and replace it with something else, How about " Hockey Night In Canada" ?