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6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freeely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.
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6/23/2016 8:45:07 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freeely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

See now, THIS is fun stuff.

Trump spits on the establishment, and the establishment spits back. All good by me.
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6/23/2016 8:45:59 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freeely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

Who do the Nevertrump support besides Hillary?
Harikrish
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6/23/2016 8:46:19 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freeely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

Either way Trump wins and the Republican Party is irreversibly damaged. Trump singlehandedly exposed how corrupt and conniving the Republucan Party is and he beat 16 career Republican politicians to win the normination. Trump can be proud of his accomplishments.
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6/23/2016 9:05:32 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Trump has made being impolite a habit. The "professional" politicians think he can't win the general election because of that.
His lower numbers in the recent polls suggest their fears are realistic.

Trump has fired his campaign manager and will reconfigure his campaign.
By the time the convention happens, we will see a new Trump who will only seem offensive to people who can't vote, or will never vote republican anyway.
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6/23/2016 9:19:21 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

There will be riots at the Cleveland convention. I can guarantee it
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6/23/2016 9:24:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/23/2016 9:19:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

There will be riots at the Cleveland convention. I can guarantee it

Depends on how many Hillary supporters sneak in and trespass.
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6/23/2016 9:35:07 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/23/2016 9:24:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:19:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

There will be riots at the Cleveland convention. I can guarantee it

Depends on how many Hillary supporters sneak in and trespass.

Can't expect Trump supporters to not behave like wild dogs when confronted with any amount of anti-Trump talk.
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6/23/2016 9:38:46 PM
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At 6/23/2016 8:44:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
Pathetic.

I agree.
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6/23/2016 9:43:18 PM
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At 6/23/2016 9:35:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:24:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:19:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

There will be riots at the Cleveland convention. I can guarantee it

Depends on how many Hillary supporters sneak in and trespass.

Can't expect Trump supporters to not behave like wild dogs when confronted with any amount of trespassers.

I agree. They should just let the paid thugs escort them out.
Harikrish
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6/23/2016 9:43:39 PM
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Trump might even sue the RNC and Republucan party if they try to deny him the normination. He invested his own money and won fairly beating all 16 other republican candidates. His money and time and damage to his brand will have to be compensated if they deny him the normination at the convention.
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6/23/2016 9:47:51 PM
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At 6/23/2016 9:35:07 PM, TBR wrote:
I wonder how peaceful the DNC convention would be if waves of illegal paid trespassers mobbed the floor, censoring Hillary. Probably tranquil like the Dalai lama's bottom.
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6/23/2016 9:51:37 PM
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At 6/23/2016 9:47:51 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:35:07 PM, TBR wrote:
I wonder how peaceful the DNC convention would be if waves of illegal paid trespassers mobbed the floor, censoring Hillary. Probably tranquil like the Dalai lama's bottom.

I doubt it would look like any Trump rally, and Clinton sure wouldn't scream from the stage things like Trump does.
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6/23/2016 9:52:29 PM
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At 6/23/2016 9:51:37 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:47:51 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:35:07 PM, TBR wrote:
I wonder how peaceful the DNC convention would be if waves of illegal paid trespassers mobbed the floor, censoring Hillary. Probably tranquil like the Dalai lama's bottom.

I doubt it would look like any Trump rally, and Clinton sure wouldn't scream from the stage things like Trump does.

Hopefully she won't say "get em outta here!"
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6/23/2016 9:52:40 PM
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At 6/23/2016 9:43:39 PM, Harikrish wrote:
Trump might even sue the RNC and Republucan party if they try to deny him the normination. He invested his own money and won fairly beating all 16 other republican candidates. His money and time and damage to his brand will have to be compensated if they deny him the normination at the convention.

Trump, sue? How odd would THAT be.
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6/23/2016 10:00:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
It common for people to say "Never trumpers are for Hillary!" No. I am never Trump and I am never Hillary. They are both terrible. I will admit that Hillary is worse, but Trump comes in at a close second. And I can not vote for either of them.

Now, with that said, even though I am a technically a "Never Trumper", I think it is wrong to do a "convention coup". He won fair and square and it would be wrong to take that away. Besides who are they gonna pick instead, Paul Ryan? Or Jeb Bush? Yeah both of them are terrible too.
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6/23/2016 10:12:41 PM
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At 6/23/2016 9:35:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:24:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:19:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

There will be riots at the Cleveland convention. I can guarantee it

Depends on how many Hillary supporters sneak in and trespass.

Can't expect Trump supporters to not behave like wild dogs when confronted with any amount of anti-Trump talk.

Too bad the only Trumpets you know are from /r/the_Donald
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6/23/2016 10:15:28 PM
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At 6/23/2016 10:12:41 PM, Geographia wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:35:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:24:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:19:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

There will be riots at the Cleveland convention. I can guarantee it

Depends on how many Hillary supporters sneak in and trespass.

Can't expect Trump supporters to not behave like wild dogs when confronted with any amount of anti-Trump talk.

Too bad the only Trumpets you know are from /r/the_Donald

Honestly. The only ones I know are right here.

There is not one of my republican friends who are happy with this mess.
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6/23/2016 10:22:04 PM
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At 6/23/2016 10:15:28 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/23/2016 10:12:41 PM, Geographia wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:35:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:24:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 6/23/2016 9:19:21 PM, Lsumichiganfan wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

There will be riots at the Cleveland convention. I can guarantee it

Depends on how many Hillary supporters sneak in and trespass.

Can't expect Trump supporters to not behave like wild dogs when confronted with any amount of anti-Trump talk.

Too bad the only Trumpets you know are from /r/the_Donald

Honestly. The only ones I know are right here.

There is not one of my republican friends who are happy with this mess.

I am.
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6/23/2016 10:23:40 PM
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There is not one of my republican friends who are happy with this mess.

I am.

Your happy FOR the mess. There is a difference.
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6/23/2016 10:36:56 PM
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At 6/23/2016 10:23:40 PM, TBR wrote:
There is not one of my republican friends who are happy with this mess.

I am.

Your happy FOR the mess. There is a difference.

tomato ..tomahto
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6/23/2016 11:07:34 PM
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At 6/23/2016 8:45:59 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
Who do the Nevertrump support besides Hillary?

Nobody. Anyone who doesn't support Trump de facto supports Hillary.

For a conservative, Hillary is worse on every issue than Trump (and, Hillary already is unprecedentedly prepared to get her agenda done). But, the #NeverTrump leaders are neocons, not conservatives.
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6/23/2016 11:56:11 PM
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At 6/23/2016 11:07:34 PM, Rukado wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:45:59 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
Who do the Nevertrump support besides Hillary?

Nobody. Anyone who doesn't support Trump de facto supports Hillary.

For a conservative, Hillary is worse on every issue than Trump (and, Hillary already is unprecedentedly prepared to get her agenda done). But, the #NeverTrump leaders are neocons, not conservatives.

I never understand how people can hate Trump but like Hillary. Hillary is extremely corrupt.
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6/24/2016 2:08:32 PM
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At 6/23/2016 11:56:11 PM, Geographia wrote:
At 6/23/2016 11:07:34 PM, Rukado wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:45:59 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
Who do the Nevertrump support besides Hillary?

Nobody. Anyone who doesn't support Trump de facto supports Hillary.

For a conservative, Hillary is worse on every issue than Trump (and, Hillary already is unprecedentedly prepared to get her agenda done). But, the #NeverTrump leaders are neocons, not conservatives.

I never understand how people can hate Trump but like Hillary. Hillary is extremely corrupt.

No criminal or fraud charges have resulted from all the allegations levied against Hillary. The same standard should apply: Innocent until proven guilty.
But Trump has been involved in 3500 suits and many were settled out of court. His Trump University is a blatant fraud and no amount of denial will cause it to go away. But Trump will be good for Ameruca. He will give the world another reason to laugh at Americans after George W Bush.
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6/24/2016 2:12:52 PM
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At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freeely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

This will fail, and even trying it would permanently destroy the Republican party.
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6/24/2016 2:15:53 PM
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At 6/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freeely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

See now, THIS is fun stuff.

Trump spits on the establishment, and the establishment spits back. All good by me.

Not by me. The Democrats need some opposition, which would end if the Republican party totally went under, which it would if they tried anything like what the OP is suggesting.

While, Republicans (other than Trump) are more or less fairly stupid when it comes to tactical politiking, they are not entirely useless. This scheme would, in any case, virtually ensure the end of the Republican party if carried out.

The NeverTrump people need to accept the fact that they lost, and above all they need to accept the reason why they lost, rather than engage in stupid acts of treason against their party.
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6/24/2016 2:30:22 PM
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At 6/24/2016 2:15:53 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, TBR wrote:
At 6/23/2016 8:38:52 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Some anti-Trumpers are planning on staging a coup at the Cleveland convention. Former Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH) said that state rules do not apply to the national convention, and a false perception of bound delegates has been painted in the campaign. Therefore, he says that first round delegates are allowed to vote freeely due to this technicality, and he is campaigning for them to take advantage of it.

See now, THIS is fun stuff.

Trump spits on the establishment, and the establishment spits back. All good by me.

Not by me. The Democrats need some opposition, which would end if the Republican party totally went under, which it would if they tried anything like what the OP is suggesting.

While, Republicans (other than Trump) are more or less fairly stupid when it comes to tactical politiking, they are not entirely useless. This scheme would, in any case, virtually ensure the end of the Republican party if carried out.

The NeverTrump people need to accept the fact that they lost, and above all they need to accept the reason why they lost, rather than engage in stupid acts of treason against their party.

The pains the GOP is suffering are entirely of their own making. Getting Trump is exactly what happens when you tell your base for years how crappy government is. Its what happens when all your candidates are proud that they haven't read a book since leaving college. When you become the party of science-deniers. When your face is Rush. Yea, there own damn fault. That SOME in the party want to take back some sanity is not a surprise. Its not my business that any effort at this point is going to hurt, that it for them to suffer.

The party is not going to "die". They need to reorganize at some point. They need to get their sh1t straight. Decide exactly what they want to be. If they want to be the homo-hating, anti-science, gun / redneck party, well OK. If they want to be the sane economy, business supporting, whatever else party, OK too. Now is the time to figure it out.