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6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.

The people that can replace Cameron as Prime Minister can only be people that are currently members of the Conservative party. Prior to Cameron's resignation there will be a vote within the Conservative party (whereby only members of said campaign can vote) to decide who will replace him. [1]

The candidates are currently:

Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
Theresa May
Andrea Leadson
Priti Patel
Sajid Javid
Philip Hammond
Stephen Crabb
Liam Fox
George Osborne [1]

Farage is clearly NOT on this list as he is a member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP). [3]

As it stands Boris Johnson is the clear favorite and will likely replace Cameron in October, which is when he plans to resign. [2]

Sources

[1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org...
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6/24/2016 5:18:42 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.

The people that can replace Cameron as Prime Minister can only be people that are currently members of the Conservative party. Prior to Cameron's resignation there will be a vote within the Conservative party (whereby only members of said campaign can vote) to decide who will replace him. [1]

The candidates are currently:

Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
Theresa May
Andrea Leadson
Priti Patel
Sajid Javid
Philip Hammond
Stephen Crabb
Liam Fox
George Osborne [1]

Farage is clearly NOT on this list as he is a member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP). [3]

As it stands Boris Johnson is the clear favorite and will likely replace Cameron in October, which is when he plans to resign. [2]

Sources

[1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org...

When Michael Heseltine provoked the leadership election that ousted Margaret Thatcher from office, he earned the hatred of enough Tory MP's to ensure that he could never replace her. In the same vein Boris may have earned enough enemies within his own party to scupper his leadership chances.

I may have a small wager on Theresa May.
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6/24/2016 5:31:43 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 5:18:42 PM, desmac wrote:
When Michael Heseltine provoked the leadership election that ousted Margaret Thatcher from office, he earned the hatred of enough Tory MP's to ensure that he could never replace her. In the same vein Boris may have earned enough enemies within his own party to scupper his leadership chances.

Whilst there is a lot of Boris Johnson hatred, he didn't get elected for Mayor for two consective terms for no reason. He has a lot of support and the fact that he lead the Brexit campaign and won it has gained him even more support. Polls show that he has an overwhelming lead over the other potential candidates at the moment. With that said though, these results can change. Especially since he'll be resigning in October which gives people plenty of time to change their minds.

I may have a small wager on Theresa May.

Indeed. She is second at the moment after Boris though I still don't find it likely that she'll win.
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6/24/2016 6:09:45 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.

The people that can replace Cameron as Prime Minister can only be people that are currently members of the Conservative party. Prior to Cameron's resignation there will be a vote within the Conservative party (whereby only members of said campaign can vote) to decide who will replace him. [1]

The candidates are currently:

Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
Theresa May
Andrea Leadson
Priti Patel
Sajid Javid
Philip Hammond
Stephen Crabb
Liam Fox
George Osborne [1]

Farage is clearly NOT on this list as he is a member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP). [3]

As it stands Boris Johnson is the clear favorite and will likely replace Cameron in October, which is when he plans to resign. [2]

Sources

[1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org...

I'm not really into UK politics, but is there a reason why Nigel Farage wouldn't win? Isn't he garnering alot of supporter at the moment.
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6/24/2016 6:13:46 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 6:09:45 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
I'm not really into UK politics, but is there a reason why Nigel Farage wouldn't win? Isn't he garnering alot of supporter at the moment.

He doesn't really have as much support as the media present him to have. The reason the Brexit occurred had little to with Farage's influence. It is possible (though not likely) for him to win the next general election however it is impossible for him to replace David Cameron in October since only a member of the Conservative party can do that since they were the party elected and still have a remaining 3 years (approximately) before the next general election occurs to determine the next Prime Minister.
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6/24/2016 6:14:52 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 6:13:46 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 6/24/2016 6:09:45 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
I'm not really into UK politics, but is there a reason why Nigel Farage wouldn't win? Isn't he garnering alot of supporter at the moment.

He doesn't really have as much support as the media present him to have. The reason the Brexit occurred had little to with Farage's influence. It is possible (though not likely) for him to win the next general election however it is impossible for him to replace David Cameron in October since only a member of the Conservative party can do that since they were the party elected and still have a remaining 3 years (approximately) before the next general election occurs to determine the next Prime Minister.

Ah I see.
Btw are you a Conservative supporter or a Labour Supporter?
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6/24/2016 6:17:35 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 6:14:52 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 6/24/2016 6:13:46 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 6/24/2016 6:09:45 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
I'm not really into UK politics, but is there a reason why Nigel Farage wouldn't win? Isn't he garnering alot of supporter at the moment.

He doesn't really have as much support as the media present him to have. The reason the Brexit occurred had little to with Farage's influence. It is possible (though not likely) for him to win the next general election however it is impossible for him to replace David Cameron in October since only a member of the Conservative party can do that since they were the party elected and still have a remaining 3 years (approximately) before the next general election occurs to determine the next Prime Minister.

Ah I see.
Btw are you a Conservative supporter or a Labour Supporter?

I'm more of a Labour supporter than Conservative but I don't really match either ideology particularly well tbh.
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6/24/2016 6:39:14 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.

The people that can replace Cameron as Prime Minister can only be people that are currently members of the Conservative party. Prior to Cameron's resignation there will be a vote within the Conservative party (whereby only members of said campaign can vote) to decide who will replace him. [1]

The candidates are currently:

Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
Theresa May
Andrea Leadson
Priti Patel
Sajid Javid
Philip Hammond
Stephen Crabb
Liam Fox
George Osborne [1]

Farage is clearly NOT on this list as he is a member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP). [3]

As it stands Boris Johnson is the clear favorite and will likely replace Cameron in October, which is when he plans to resign. [2]

Sources

[1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org...

My Money is on Borris. Maybe Britain will have a cabbage patch kid for PM.
Side note that I want there to be a Labour-SNP-Plaid-Green government with Corbyn as PM.
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6/24/2016 7:09:00 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 6:09:45 PM, tajshar2k wrote:
At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.

The people that can replace Cameron as Prime Minister can only be people that are currently members of the Conservative party. Prior to Cameron's resignation there will be a vote within the Conservative party (whereby only members of said campaign can vote) to decide who will replace him. [1]

The candidates are currently:

Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
Theresa May
Andrea Leadson
Priti Patel
Sajid Javid
Philip Hammond
Stephen Crabb
Liam Fox
George Osborne [1]

Farage is clearly NOT on this list as he is a member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP). [3]

As it stands Boris Johnson is the clear favorite and will likely replace Cameron in October, which is when he plans to resign. [2]

Sources

[1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org...

I'm not really into UK politics, but is there a reason why Nigel Farage wouldn't win? Isn't he garnering alot of supporter at the moment.

The reason is he is a member of the UKIP party and currently the conservative party are in government. The next general election is scheduled for 2020 so until then the next Prime Minister has to be someone else from the conservative party.
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6/24/2016 7:15:55 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.

The people that can replace Cameron as Prime Minister can only be people that are currently members of the Conservative party. Prior to Cameron's resignation there will be a vote within the Conservative party (whereby only members of said campaign can vote) to decide who will replace him. [1]

The candidates are currently:

Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
Theresa May
Andrea Leadson
Priti Patel
Sajid Javid
Philip Hammond
Stephen Crabb
Liam Fox
George Osborne [1]

Farage is clearly NOT on this list as he is a member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP). [3]

As it stands Boris Johnson is the clear favorite and will likely replace Cameron in October, which is when he plans to resign. [2]

Sources

[1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org...

I think Boris Johnson will be the next Prime Minister with his biggest competitor being Theresa May. She played a deft strategic game by backing Cameron's remain campaign without getting too involved. She has always been skeptical of the EU so may even attract Brexit supporting MPs. She would also be a good candidate to unite the party. However the way Johnson won two mayoral elections in Left leaning London and helped win the referendum campaign for leave. His unique ability to attract left wing votes while being on the right makes him on balance the best choice from a conservative perspective.
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6/24/2016 7:23:04 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.

The people that can replace Cameron as Prime Minister can only be people that are currently members of the Conservative party. Prior to Cameron's resignation there will be a vote within the Conservative party (whereby only members of said campaign can vote) to decide who will replace him. [1]

The candidates are currently:

Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
Theresa May
Andrea Leadson
Priti Patel
Sajid Javid
Philip Hammond
Stephen Crabb
Liam Fox
George Osborne [1]

Farage is clearly NOT on this list as he is a member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP). [3]

As it stands Boris Johnson is the clear favorite and will likely replace Cameron in October, which is when he plans to resign. [2]

Sources

[1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org...

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6/24/2016 8:16:01 PM
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At 6/24/2016 7:30:36 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
The Farrage is a mirage, don't fall for the fascade, cause he supports the Assad.

well played well played...
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6/24/2016 8:38:12 PM
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At 6/24/2016 7:30:36 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
The Farrage is a mirage, don't fall for the fascade, cause he supports the Assad.

. :P
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6/25/2016 7:49:10 PM
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At 6/24/2016 7:15:55 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
I think Boris Johnson will be the next Prime Minister with his biggest competitor being Theresa May. She played a deft strategic game by backing Cameron's remain campaign without getting too involved. She has always been skeptical of the EU so may even attract Brexit supporting MPs. She would also be a good candidate to unite the party. However the way Johnson won two mayoral elections in Left leaning London and helped win the referendum campaign for leave. His unique ability to attract left wing votes while being on the right makes him on balance the best choice from a conservative perspective.

I agree that she's his biggest competitor though I still don't think that she (or any of the other candidates for that matter) have any chance of beating Boris who seems to be the most popular by far at the moment.
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6/25/2016 11:46:31 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.

The people that can replace Cameron as Prime Minister can only be people that are currently members of the Conservative party. Prior to Cameron's resignation there will be a vote within the Conservative party (whereby only members of said campaign can vote) to decide who will replace him. [1]

The candidates are currently:

Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
Theresa May
Andrea Leadson
Priti Patel
Sajid Javid
Philip Hammond
Stephen Crabb
Liam Fox
George Osborne [1]

Farage is clearly NOT on this list as he is a member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP). [3]

As it stands Boris Johnson is the clear favorite and will likely replace Cameron in October, which is when he plans to resign. [2]

Sources

[1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org...

You will note that I have only said that Farage *****SHOULD***** replace Cameron, not that Farage will.

Obviously he is not eligible.... yet.
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6/26/2016 5:09:18 AM
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At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.
If people actually say that, it's just sad how someone with no knowledge of UK politics would comment on UK politics, lol...

From what little I know, Johnson does seem to be the likely next PM.
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6/26/2016 5:18:00 AM
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At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.
If people actually say that, it's just sad how someone with no knowledge of UK politics would comment on UK politics, lol...
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6/26/2016 2:06:51 PM
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At 6/25/2016 11:46:31 PM, YYW wrote:
You will note that I have only said that Farage *****SHOULD***** replace Cameron, not that Farage will.

Obviously he is not eligible.... yet.

Yeah I know. I wasn't referring to you, there are others that seem to believe that he will or that he is a likely candidate for replacing Cameron.
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6/26/2016 2:10:03 PM
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At 6/26/2016 5:09:18 AM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
If people actually say that, it's just sad how someone with no knowledge of UK politics would comment on UK politics, lol...

Yeah.

From what little I know, Johnson does seem to be the likely next PM.

Indeed. I'd definitely be surprised if Theresa manages to win and I'd be even more surprised if anybody else did.
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6/26/2016 2:24:14 PM
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At 6/26/2016 2:10:03 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 6/26/2016 5:09:18 AM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
If people actually say that, it's just sad how someone with no knowledge of UK politics would comment on UK politics, lol...

Yeah.

From what little I know, Johnson does seem to be the likely next PM.

Indeed. I'd definitely be surprised if Theresa manages to win and I'd be even more surprised if anybody else did.

No chance of a Boris/Trump hairfest?
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6/26/2016 2:27:32 PM
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At 6/26/2016 5:18:00 AM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 6/24/2016 5:14:23 PM, famousdebater wrote:
In almost all the forums regarding the Brexit I've seen people making comments on Farage having a chance of replacing Cameron. This claim is completely false.
If people actually say that, it's just sad how someone with no knowledge of UK politics would comment on UK politics, lol...

It's okay, people in the US keep saying Palin has a chance at VP...for god knows why...
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6/26/2016 2:40:41 PM
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At 6/25/2016 7:49:10 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 6/24/2016 7:15:55 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
I think Boris Johnson will be the next Prime Minister with his biggest competitor being Theresa May. She played a deft strategic game by backing Cameron's remain campaign without getting too involved. She has always been skeptical of the EU so may even attract Brexit supporting MPs. She would also be a good candidate to unite the party. However the way Johnson won two mayoral elections in Left leaning London and helped win the referendum campaign for leave. His unique ability to attract left wing votes while being on the right makes him on balance the best choice from a conservative perspective.

I agree that she's his biggest competitor though I still don't think that she (or any of the other candidates for that matter) have any chance of beating Boris who seems to be the most popular by far at the moment.

I think she will put up a good fight, possibly being more popular among MPs. However in the final round party members get to vote so I would expect Boris to win that popularity contest.
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6/26/2016 4:30:30 PM
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At 6/26/2016 2:10:03 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 6/26/2016 5:09:18 AM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
If people actually say that, it's just sad how someone with no knowledge of UK politics would comment on UK politics, lol...

Yeah.

From what little I know, Johnson does seem to be the likely next PM.

Indeed. I'd definitely be surprised if Theresa manages to win and I'd be even more surprised if anybody else did.
Yeah. To be perfectly honest, I've never heard of the other candidates.
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