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brontoraptor
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7/6/2016 4:36:27 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Will Civil War break out in America?

http://youtu.be...

What event would have to happen for the United States to have another Civil War or Revolution?
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7/7/2016 3:39:50 AM
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Hillary Clinton is not going to cause a civil war.
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7/7/2016 3:43:41 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/6/2016 4:36:27 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Will Civil War break out in America?

http://youtu.be...

What event would have to happen for the United States to have another Civil War or Revolution?

Civil War will only break out in this country if people keep stoking the fire and legitimising the notion through talking about it constantly. Most people are unhappy with our current system, but very few people are willing to resort to violence to change things.
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7/7/2016 3:44:01 AM
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At 7/7/2016 3:39:50 AM, bhakun wrote:
Hillary Clinton is not going to cause a civil war.

Neither will Donald Trump.
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7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM
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I certainly won't deny, however, that tribalism has become the defining characteristic of modern American politics.
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7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM
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At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I certainly won't deny, however, that tribalism has become the defining characteristic of modern American politics.

Would you like to join the American tribe?
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7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM
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Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.
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7/7/2016 2:53:15 PM
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At 7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.

That's what they said about the British back when
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7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I certainly won't deny, however, that tribalism has become the defining characteristic of modern American politics.

Would you like to join the American tribe?

Liberals typically are against the American tribe. They want to use America to give their own tribes power. The Saudi Arabia tribe has been flooding the pockets of American politicians for decades to buy world influence, power, and the backing of the American military. Money talks.

The African American tribe split off getting special accomodations from Liberal politiciansin trade for plantation politics.

The original Natives split off and have casinos everywhere while no one else can, get government assistance, aren't accountable for the Obama no insurance penalty, and can legally discriminate based on race when hiring or firing.

And...the Muslim tribe comes in under the guise of "religious freedom" while not under the same "religious scrutiny" as other belief systems in the United States.

If you want your way with liberals, here is how you do it.

1)Don't be born male.

2)Don't be a Christian.

3)Oh, and most certainly don't be white.

All 3 and you are the enemy...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/7/2016 3:06:45 PM
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At 7/7/2016 2:53:15 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.

That's what they said about the British back when

There was also the small matter of about 5,600 miles of ocean that certainly aided the revolutionaries. Not so today.
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7/7/2016 3:44:20 PM
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At 7/7/2016 3:06:45 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:53:15 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.

That's what they said about the British back when

There was also the small matter of about 5,600 miles of ocean that certainly aided the revolutionaries. Not so today.

There was still a large army of British in America, and they were able to get supplies off the land itself
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7/7/2016 4:22:03 PM
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At 7/7/2016 2:53:15 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.

That's what they said about the British back when

The British were a bunch of men in red suits with rifles. The Americans had roughly equal quality guns as their enemies. Literally the only advantage the British had was that they were a professional army (and maybe that they had artillery).
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7/7/2016 4:24:03 PM
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At 7/7/2016 4:22:03 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:53:15 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.

That's what they said about the British back when

The British were a bunch of men in red suits with rifles. The Americans had roughly equal quality guns as their enemies. Literally the only advantage the British had was that they were a professional army (and maybe that they had artillery).

Bottom line: a modern day American Revolution would be 100x as hard to win as it was for the founding fathers.
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7/7/2016 4:25:40 PM
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At 7/7/2016 4:22:03 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:53:15 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.

That's what they said about the British back when

The British were a bunch of men in red suits with rifles. The Americans had roughly equal quality guns as their enemies. Literally the only advantage the British had was that they were a professional army (and maybe that they had artillery).

The British were highly trained and had a good navy. Which was impactful given that most of the colonies were on the east coast
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7/7/2016 4:28:17 PM
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At 7/7/2016 4:25:40 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 4:22:03 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:53:15 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.

That's what they said about the British back when

The British were a bunch of men in red suits with rifles. The Americans had roughly equal quality guns as their enemies. Literally the only advantage the British had was that they were a professional army (and maybe that they had artillery).

The British were highly trained and had a good navy. Which was impactful given that most of the colonies were on the east coast

Head a mile inland and that navy would only be useful for transporting fresh troops and supplies.
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7/7/2016 4:31:42 PM
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The colonists started winning after the first few years, after their ragtag army gained experience and professional training. As soon as this happened, the British lost their only major advantage.
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7/7/2016 4:34:38 PM
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The Founding Fathers definitely had courage, perseverance, and good leadership skills, but ultimately the outcome of the American Revolution was already determined from the onset.
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7/7/2016 4:34:41 PM
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At 7/7/2016 4:28:17 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/7/2016 4:25:40 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 4:22:03 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:53:15 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:11:35 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
Unfortunately the government has grown so massive that it would squash any uprising before it had any chance of developing into a revolution.

That's what they said about the British back when

The British were a bunch of men in red suits with rifles. The Americans had roughly equal quality guns as their enemies. Literally the only advantage the British had was that they were a professional army (and maybe that they had artillery).

The British were highly trained and had a good navy. Which was impactful given that most of the colonies were on the east coast

Head a mile inland and that navy would only be useful for transporting fresh troops and supplies.

As well as cutting off fishing, and bombarding cities and as many cities were in the coast. And transporting troops across the coast. Better troop movement
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7/7/2016 4:47:54 PM
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Most Americans don't share your hatred of "big government". If anything, they feel like their government isn't doing enough for them. People generally have their own interests at heart instead of being uncompromising idealogues. In truth, a populist uprising against the established Wall Street order is probably more likely.
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7/7/2016 5:21:46 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I certainly won't deny, however, that tribalism has become the defining characteristic of modern American politics.

Would you like to join the American tribe?

Liberals typically are against the American tribe. They want to use America to give their own tribes power. The Saudi Arabia tribe has been flooding the pockets of American politicians for decades to buy world influence, power, and the backing of the American military. Money talks.

The African American tribe split off getting special accomodations from Liberal politiciansin trade for plantation politics.

The original Natives split off and have casinos everywhere while no one else can, get government assistance, aren't accountable for the Obama no insurance penalty, and can legally discriminate based on race when hiring or firing.

And...the Muslim tribe comes in under the guise of "religious freedom" while not under the same "religious scrutiny" as other belief systems in the United States.

If you want your way with liberals, here is how you do it.

1)Don't be born male.

2)Don't be a Christian.

3)Oh, and most certainly don't be white.

All 3 and you are the enemy...

This rather perverse diatribe. Also, what is the evidence of for God that atheists ignore. Why is it that Christians are the ones always trying to show everyone else the Almighty's id card anyways..? What does God need with a starship?!
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7/7/2016 5:26:13 PM
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At 7/7/2016 5:21:46 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I certainly won't deny, however, that tribalism has become the defining characteristic of modern American politics.

Would you like to join the American tribe?

Liberals typically are against the American tribe. They want to use America to give their own tribes power. The Saudi Arabia tribe has been flooding the pockets of American politicians for decades to buy world influence, power, and the backing of the American military. Money talks.

The African American tribe split off getting special accomodations from Liberal politiciansin trade for plantation politics.

The original Natives split off and have casinos everywhere while no one else can, get government assistance, aren't accountable for the Obama no insurance penalty, and can legally discriminate based on race when hiring or firing.

And...the Muslim tribe comes in under the guise of "religious freedom" while not under the same "religious scrutiny" as other belief systems in the United States.

If you want your way with liberals, here is how you do it.

1)Don't be born male.

2)Don't be a Christian.

3)Oh, and most certainly don't be white.

All 3 and you are the enemy...

This rather perverse diatribe. Also, what is the evidence of for God that atheists ignore. Why is it that Christians are the ones always trying to show everyone else the Almighty's id card anyways..? What does God need with a starship?!

Why? Militant atheism. Atheists are passing out flyers faster than JW's nowadays. Spreading the "bad news".
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/7/2016 5:53:57 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/7/2016 5:26:13 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:21:46 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I certainly won't deny, however, that tribalism has become the defining characteristic of modern American politics.

Would you like to join the American tribe?

Liberals typically are against the American tribe. They want to use America to give their own tribes power. The Saudi Arabia tribe has been flooding the pockets of American politicians for decades to buy world influence, power, and the backing of the American military. Money talks.

The African American tribe split off getting special accomodations from Liberal politiciansin trade for plantation politics.

The original Natives split off and have casinos everywhere while no one else can, get government assistance, aren't accountable for the Obama no insurance penalty, and can legally discriminate based on race when hiring or firing.

And...the Muslim tribe comes in under the guise of "religious freedom" while not under the same "religious scrutiny" as other belief systems in the United States.

If you want your way with liberals, here is how you do it.

1)Don't be born male.

2)Don't be a Christian.

3)Oh, and most certainly don't be white.

All 3 and you are the enemy...

This rather perverse diatribe. Also, what is the evidence of for God that atheists ignore? Why is it that Christians are the ones always trying to show everyone else the Almighty's id card anyways..? What does God need with a starship?!

Why? Militant atheism. Atheists are passing out flyers faster than JW's nowadays. Spreading the "bad news".

That is not an answer. That is a red herring if there ever was one. The quantity of atheist promotional literature in the market has nothing to do with your claim that atheists ignore evidence for God. This is a debate website for Christ sake. Get your game on or go home Tom Brady!

Oh I forgot though, secular minded people don't have any legitimate gripes about nutty religion. Thanks for the clarification there. It's good to know that the Westboro baptists are of the streets.

Hey could you pass along that detail to the Joyce Meyers and Benny Hinn crowd..? See, they are still slinging faith healing and property gospel like crack in West Lawndale. Maybe you could also get the, "chill out" message out to the nut jobs shouting down science all over college campuses.

If nothing else, could you tell the fundies that Donald Trump is not a Christian and they may as well vote for Wallace as that vile, bigot, materialist charlatan. I could settle for you just expanding on that.

If that's too much though, maybe you could consider that some are hesitant to burn their own mother alive for wearing a garment sewn from two threads. For some, this is a judgement of conscience, not willful rebellion against an obvious God for merely the sake of continued sodomy.

Hey that reminds me, my brother planted tomatoes side by side this year. How many people have to be there when we stone him to death..?

If you are not willing to get these emails out, and can't help with my understanding of Levitican law, you could just admit that dingbat Sam Harris doesn't constitute an atheist takeover of our entire culture. You could also just answer the question I asked, cause it sounds like you don't know what the F*ck you're talking about.

"Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
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7/7/2016 10:54:01 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/7/2016 5:53:57 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:26:13 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:21:46 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I certainly won't deny, however, that tribalism has become the defining characteristic of modern American politics.

Would you like to join the American tribe?

Liberals typically are against the American tribe. They want to use America to give their own tribes power. The Saudi Arabia tribe has been flooding the pockets of American politicians for decades to buy world influence, power, and the backing of the American military. Money talks.

The African American tribe split off getting special accomodations from Liberal politiciansin trade for plantation politics.

The original Natives split off and have casinos everywhere while no one else can, get government assistance, aren't accountable for the Obama no insurance penalty, and can legally discriminate based on race when hiring or firing.

And...the Muslim tribe comes in under the guise of "religious freedom" while not under the same "religious scrutiny" as other belief systems in the United States.

If you want your way with liberals, here is how you do it.

1)Don't be born male.

2)Don't be a Christian.

3)Oh, and most certainly don't be white.

All 3 and you are the enemy...

This rather perverse diatribe. Also, what is the evidence of for God that atheists ignore? Why is it that Christians are the ones always trying to show everyone else the Almighty's id card anyways..? What does God need with a starship?!

Why? Militant atheism. Atheists are passing out flyers faster than JW's nowadays. Spreading the "bad news".

That is not an answer. That is a red herring if there ever was one. The quantity of atheist promotional literature in the market has nothing to do with your claim that atheists ignore evidence for God. This is a debate website for Christ sake. Get your game on or go home Tom Brady!

Oh I forgot though, secular minded people don't have any legitimate gripes about nutty religion. Thanks for the clarification there. It's good to know that the Westboro baptists are of the streets.

Hey could you pass along that detail to the Joyce Meyers and Benny Hinn crowd..? See, they are still slinging faith healing and property gospel like crack in West Lawndale. Maybe you could also get the, "chill out" message out to the nut jobs shouting down science all over college campuses.

If nothing else, could you tell the fundies that Donald Trump is not a Christian and they may as well vote for Wallace as that vile, bigot, materialist charlatan. I could settle for you just expanding on that.

If that's too much though, maybe you could consider that some are hesitant to burn their own mother alive for wearing a garment sewn from two threads. For some, this is a judgement of conscience, not willful rebellion against an obvious God for merely the sake of continued sodomy.

Hey that reminds me, my brother planted tomatoes side by side this year. How many people have to be there when we stone him to death..?

If you are not willing to get these emails out, and can't help with my understanding of Levitican law, you could just admit that dingbat Sam Harris doesn't constitute an atheist takeover of our entire culture. You could also just answer the question I asked, cause it sounds like you don't know what the F*ck you're talking about.

"Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi

What gripes do you have? That as our numbers go down suicide and murder goes up?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/8/2016 12:14:53 AM
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At 7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I certainly won't deny, however, that tribalism has become the defining characteristic of modern American politics.

Would you like to join the American tribe?

Liberals typically are against the American tribe. They want to use America to give their own tribes power. The Saudi Arabia tribe has been flooding the pockets of American politicians for decades to buy world influence, power, and the backing of the American military. Money talks.

The African American tribe split off getting special accomodations from Liberal politiciansin trade for plantation politics.

The original Natives split off and have casinos everywhere while no one else can, get government assistance, aren't accountable for the Obama no insurance penalty, and can legally discriminate based on race when hiring or firing.

And...the Muslim tribe comes in under the guise of "religious freedom" while not under the same "religious scrutiny" as other belief systems in the United States.

If you want your way with liberals, here is how you do it.

1)Don't be born male.

2)Don't be a Christian.

3)Oh, and most certainly don't be white.

All 3 and you are the enemy...

Being born male is ok with libs, as long as you use the women's bathroom.

Eventually, civil war will be the only option left. Instead of screening new immigrants for compatible values and skills they bring into the country, and keeping the numbers down to allow them to assimilate, the goal of government seems to be to overwhelm the existing population. Too many wants to come here. It used to be for opportunity to better themselves, but for a long time and getting worse, coming to America for a better life means cashing in on our welfare system. By the time those footing the bills are ready to actively revolt, it will be too late for any idea of keeping all the states intact as one country. The best that can be hoped for, is that several countries form.
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7/8/2016 12:34:14 AM
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At 7/6/2016 4:36:27 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Will Civil War break out in America?

http://youtu.be...

What event would have to happen for the United States to have another Civil War or Revolution?

The catalysts for civil war are simply not present in this country. I see no cause for another civil war in this country. People thought that Obama would cause a civil war, but that hasn't happened.
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7/8/2016 12:54:09 AM
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At 7/6/2016 4:36:27 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
What event would have to happen for the United States to have another Civil War or Revolution?
Another amnesty or bailout.
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7/8/2016 1:44:01 PM
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At 7/8/2016 12:34:14 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/6/2016 4:36:27 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Will Civil War break out in America?

http://youtu.be...

What event would have to happen for the United States to have another Civil War or Revolution?

The catalysts for civil war are simply not present in this country. I see no cause for another civil war in this country. People thought that Obama would cause a civil war, but that hasn't happened.

Well duh...

Republicans have more guns. Until the 2nd is abolished there will be no civil war/tyrannical take over.
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7/8/2016 1:46:48 PM
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At 7/7/2016 5:53:57 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:26:13 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:21:46 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:

"Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi

Didn't read anything else you said, but I like this.

This is the only idea that/should matter to Christians. Something to strive towards, but never achieve; it is the sad reality of being a Christian.
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7/8/2016 2:42:21 PM
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At 7/8/2016 1:46:48 PM, Robkwoods wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:53:57 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:26:13 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:21:46 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:

"Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi

Didn't read anything else you said, but I like this.

This is the only idea that/should matter to Christians. Something to strive towards, but never achieve; it is the sad reality of being a Christian.

I wish you had read the material above that quote, because I was directly addressing the charlatans that are a vocal political element in the name of religious values, without understanding or living by the core tenets of the faith Scripture prescribes.
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7/8/2016 2:58:46 PM
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At 7/8/2016 2:42:21 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/8/2016 1:46:48 PM, Robkwoods wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:53:57 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:26:13 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:21:46 PM, DavidMancke wrote:
At 7/7/2016 2:54:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/7/2016 5:56:50 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 7/7/2016 3:46:03 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:

"Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi

Didn't read anything else you said, but I like this.

This is the only idea that/should matter to Christians. Something to strive towards, but never achieve; it is the sad reality of being a Christian.

I wish you had read the material above that quote, because I was directly addressing the charlatans that are a vocal political element in the name of religious values, without understanding or living by the core tenets of the faith Scripture prescribes.

My apologies. Very interesting rant. Not really into Levitican law as it only applies to orthodox Jews. Also seeing as they study it and I do not, I would bow to their knowledge concerning translation and meaning. This does not mean I would not question. I do however subscribe to the New Testament, Jesus denounced the old law and put forth only two new commandments. Love your neighbor as yourself and Love God with all you heart, mind and soul.

One of the best things about Christianity is it requires voluntary commitment. I hold voluntary action as one of the universe's most moral concepts.