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PetersSmith
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7/9/2016 6:41:44 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
For those of you who are unaware, Bernie Sanders was unfortunately defeated by Hillary for the Democratic nomination. Sanders was quite popular regardless, especially among the younger people. However, there has been talk of him still running. Sanders was an Independent senator, one of the two (the other being Angus King and before him Joe Lieberman). Sanders has been steadfast in his stance that keeping Donald Trump out of the White House is his top goal, and had used that justification against the possibility of a third-party run this fall. Sanders said he would refuse to play the spoiler, potentially splitting the left-leaning vote and allowing Trump to win. Sanders has shown disdain for the Democratic National Convention, something Trump capitalized on in one of his speeches and also encouraged Sanders to run independent (http://www.inquisitr.com...). People believe Bernie is the only way to stop Trump and Gallup reports that 60 percent believe a third party is needed "because the Republican and Democratic parties "do such a poor job" of representing the American people." Sanders' responses to this suggestion are far from a definitive "no" (http://www.salon.com...).

But things have taken an interesting turn. Green Party presumptive presidential candidate Jill Stein invited Bernie Sanders to take over her place as the party's nominee. Stein has 5 percent of the likely voters supporting her and she said, "If he saw that you can"t have a revolutionary campaign in a counter-revolutionary party, he"d be welcomed to the Green party. He could lead the ticket and build a political movement". Stein's suggestion has come right after Sanders was expected to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate. "If he continues to declare his full faith in the Democratic Party, it will leave many of his supporters very disappointed," she said. "That political movement is going to go on " it isn"t going to bury itself in the graveyard alongside Hillary Clinton." (http://www.ibtimes.com...).

Hillary Clinton is still the presumptive nominee and Sanders hasn't dropped out yet. Jill Stein has yet to announce a VP. Gary Johnson won the Independent ticket. So this brings up the obvious question, will Bernie Sanders run on the Green ticket? Do you think that he will agree to be Stein's VP, or do you think he will agree to replace Stein as the Green Party nominee? If so, do you think the Green Party will actually "stop Trump" or even possibly win the election? Do you think this would be a wise move for Sanders or should he not abandon his party? Do you think this would increase or decrease Trump's chance at winning? Do you think Sanders should just stick with endorsing Clinton instead? Discuss.
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7/9/2016 7:33:04 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Nah. Bernie is still in the race in order to gain concessions from Hillary and the Democratic Party. He wants them to move to the Left, and they have complied. For example, recently the Democratic Party added a $15 per hour Federal minimum wage to its platform.
Now that these concessions have been made, he'll likely endorse Hillary soon and then drop out, either in the coming days or after the convention.
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7/9/2016 7:46:19 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/9/2016 6:41:44 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
For those of you who are unaware, Bernie Sanders was unfortunately defeated by Hillary for the Democratic nomination. Sanders was quite popular regardless, especially among the younger people. However, there has been talk of him still running. Sanders was an Independent senator, one of the two (the other being Angus King and before him Joe Lieberman). Sanders has been steadfast in his stance that keeping Donald Trump out of the White House is his top goal, and had used that justification against the possibility of a third-party run this fall. Sanders said he would refuse to play the spoiler, potentially splitting the left-leaning vote and allowing Trump to win. Sanders has shown disdain for the Democratic National Convention, something Trump capitalized on in one of his speeches and also encouraged Sanders to run independent (http://www.inquisitr.com...). People believe Bernie is the only way to stop Trump and Gallup reports that 60 percent believe a third party is needed "because the Republican and Democratic parties "do such a poor job" of representing the American people." Sanders' responses to this suggestion are far from a definitive "no" (http://www.salon.com...).

But things have taken an interesting turn. Green Party presumptive presidential candidate Jill Stein invited Bernie Sanders to take over her place as the party's nominee. Stein has 5 percent of the likely voters supporting her and she said, "If he saw that you can"t have a revolutionary campaign in a counter-revolutionary party, he"d be welcomed to the Green party. He could lead the ticket and build a political movement". Stein's suggestion has come right after Sanders was expected to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate. "If he continues to declare his full faith in the Democratic Party, it will leave many of his supporters very disappointed," she said. "That political movement is going to go on " it isn"t going to bury itself in the graveyard alongside Hillary Clinton." (http://www.ibtimes.com...).

Hillary Clinton is still the presumptive nominee and Sanders hasn't dropped out yet. Jill Stein has yet to announce a VP. Gary Johnson won the Independent ticket. So this brings up the obvious question, will Bernie Sanders run on the Green ticket? Do you think that he will agree to be Stein's VP, or do you think he will agree to replace Stein as the Green Party nominee? If so, do you think the Green Party will actually "stop Trump" or even possibly win the election? Do you think this would be a wise move for Sanders or should he not abandon his party? Do you think this would increase or decrease Trump's chance at winning? Do you think Sanders should just stick with endorsing Clinton instead? Discuss.
Green reached out months ago and Sanders said no. Bernie is smart enough to know that him on the Green ticket would result in a Trump presidency.
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7/9/2016 7:56:16 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/9/2016 7:46:19 PM, bhakun wrote:
At 7/9/2016 6:41:44 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
For those of you who are unaware, Bernie Sanders was unfortunately defeated by Hillary for the Democratic nomination. Sanders was quite popular regardless, especially among the younger people. However, there has been talk of him still running. Sanders was an Independent senator, one of the two (the other being Angus King and before him Joe Lieberman). Sanders has been steadfast in his stance that keeping Donald Trump out of the White House is his top goal, and had used that justification against the possibility of a third-party run this fall. Sanders said he would refuse to play the spoiler, potentially splitting the left-leaning vote and allowing Trump to win. Sanders has shown disdain for the Democratic National Convention, something Trump capitalized on in one of his speeches and also encouraged Sanders to run independent (http://www.inquisitr.com...). People believe Bernie is the only way to stop Trump and Gallup reports that 60 percent believe a third party is needed "because the Republican and Democratic parties "do such a poor job" of representing the American people." Sanders' responses to this suggestion are far from a definitive "no" (http://www.salon.com...).

But things have taken an interesting turn. Green Party presumptive presidential candidate Jill Stein invited Bernie Sanders to take over her place as the party's nominee. Stein has 5 percent of the likely voters supporting her and she said, "If he saw that you can"t have a revolutionary campaign in a counter-revolutionary party, he"d be welcomed to the Green party. He could lead the ticket and build a political movement". Stein's suggestion has come right after Sanders was expected to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate. "If he continues to declare his full faith in the Democratic Party, it will leave many of his supporters very disappointed," she said. "That political movement is going to go on " it isn"t going to bury itself in the graveyard alongside Hillary Clinton." (http://www.ibtimes.com...).

Hillary Clinton is still the presumptive nominee and Sanders hasn't dropped out yet. Jill Stein has yet to announce a VP. Gary Johnson won the Independent ticket. So this brings up the obvious question, will Bernie Sanders run on the Green ticket? Do you think that he will agree to be Stein's VP, or do you think he will agree to replace Stein as the Green Party nominee? If so, do you think the Green Party will actually "stop Trump" or even possibly win the election? Do you think this would be a wise move for Sanders or should he not abandon his party? Do you think this would increase or decrease Trump's chance at winning? Do you think Sanders should just stick with endorsing Clinton instead? Discuss.
Green reached out months ago and Sanders said no. Bernie is smart enough to know that him on the Green ticket would result in a Trump presidency.

If only he was smart enough to understand the stupidity of his policies...
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7/9/2016 7:59:48 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/9/2016 7:56:16 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/9/2016 7:46:19 PM, bhakun wrote:
At 7/9/2016 6:41:44 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
For those of you who are unaware, Bernie Sanders was unfortunately defeated by Hillary for the Democratic nomination. Sanders was quite popular regardless, especially among the younger people. However, there has been talk of him still running. Sanders was an Independent senator, one of the two (the other being Angus King and before him Joe Lieberman). Sanders has been steadfast in his stance that keeping Donald Trump out of the White House is his top goal, and had used that justification against the possibility of a third-party run this fall. Sanders said he would refuse to play the spoiler, potentially splitting the left-leaning vote and allowing Trump to win. Sanders has shown disdain for the Democratic National Convention, something Trump capitalized on in one of his speeches and also encouraged Sanders to run independent (http://www.inquisitr.com...). People believe Bernie is the only way to stop Trump and Gallup reports that 60 percent believe a third party is needed "because the Republican and Democratic parties "do such a poor job" of representing the American people." Sanders' responses to this suggestion are far from a definitive "no" (http://www.salon.com...).

But things have taken an interesting turn. Green Party presumptive presidential candidate Jill Stein invited Bernie Sanders to take over her place as the party's nominee. Stein has 5 percent of the likely voters supporting her and she said, "If he saw that you can"t have a revolutionary campaign in a counter-revolutionary party, he"d be welcomed to the Green party. He could lead the ticket and build a political movement". Stein's suggestion has come right after Sanders was expected to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate. "If he continues to declare his full faith in the Democratic Party, it will leave many of his supporters very disappointed," she said. "That political movement is going to go on " it isn"t going to bury itself in the graveyard alongside Hillary Clinton." (http://www.ibtimes.com...).

Hillary Clinton is still the presumptive nominee and Sanders hasn't dropped out yet. Jill Stein has yet to announce a VP. Gary Johnson won the Independent ticket. So this brings up the obvious question, will Bernie Sanders run on the Green ticket? Do you think that he will agree to be Stein's VP, or do you think he will agree to replace Stein as the Green Party nominee? If so, do you think the Green Party will actually "stop Trump" or even possibly win the election? Do you think this would be a wise move for Sanders or should he not abandon his party? Do you think this would increase or decrease Trump's chance at winning? Do you think Sanders should just stick with endorsing Clinton instead? Discuss.
Green reached out months ago and Sanders said no. Bernie is smart enough to know that him on the Green ticket would result in a Trump presidency.

If only he was smart enough to understand the stupidity of his policies...
Thats clever m8.
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7/9/2016 8:10:46 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/9/2016 7:59:48 PM, bhakun wrote:
At 7/9/2016 7:56:16 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/9/2016 7:46:19 PM, bhakun wrote:
At 7/9/2016 6:41:44 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
For those of you who are unaware, Bernie Sanders was unfortunately defeated by Hillary for the Democratic nomination. Sanders was quite popular regardless, especially among the younger people. However, there has been talk of him still running. Sanders was an Independent senator, one of the two (the other being Angus King and before him Joe Lieberman). Sanders has been steadfast in his stance that keeping Donald Trump out of the White House is his top goal, and had used that justification against the possibility of a third-party run this fall. Sanders said he would refuse to play the spoiler, potentially splitting the left-leaning vote and allowing Trump to win. Sanders has shown disdain for the Democratic National Convention, something Trump capitalized on in one of his speeches and also encouraged Sanders to run independent (http://www.inquisitr.com...). People believe Bernie is the only way to stop Trump and Gallup reports that 60 percent believe a third party is needed "because the Republican and Democratic parties "do such a poor job" of representing the American people." Sanders' responses to this suggestion are far from a definitive "no" (http://www.salon.com...).

But things have taken an interesting turn. Green Party presumptive presidential candidate Jill Stein invited Bernie Sanders to take over her place as the party's nominee. Stein has 5 percent of the likely voters supporting her and she said, "If he saw that you can"t have a revolutionary campaign in a counter-revolutionary party, he"d be welcomed to the Green party. He could lead the ticket and build a political movement". Stein's suggestion has come right after Sanders was expected to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate. "If he continues to declare his full faith in the Democratic Party, it will leave many of his supporters very disappointed," she said. "That political movement is going to go on " it isn"t going to bury itself in the graveyard alongside Hillary Clinton." (http://www.ibtimes.com...).

Hillary Clinton is still the presumptive nominee and Sanders hasn't dropped out yet. Jill Stein has yet to announce a VP. Gary Johnson won the Independent ticket. So this brings up the obvious question, will Bernie Sanders run on the Green ticket? Do you think that he will agree to be Stein's VP, or do you think he will agree to replace Stein as the Green Party nominee? If so, do you think the Green Party will actually "stop Trump" or even possibly win the election? Do you think this would be a wise move for Sanders or should he not abandon his party? Do you think this would increase or decrease Trump's chance at winning? Do you think Sanders should just stick with endorsing Clinton instead? Discuss.
Green reached out months ago and Sanders said no. Bernie is smart enough to know that him on the Green ticket would result in a Trump presidency.

If only he was smart enough to understand the stupidity of his policies...
Thats clever m8.

Didn't even have to try, it just came naturally.
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7/9/2016 8:21:30 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/9/2016 7:56:16 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/9/2016 7:46:19 PM, bhakun wrote:
At 7/9/2016 6:41:44 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
If only he was smart enough to understand the stupidity of his policies...

Basically this. Heellllloooooo, the country is 19, oh wait, nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt and you want to make college free and raise the minimum wage. I know you don't care since you are a dinosaur anyway and won't be around to see the damage to your grand kids, but the rest of us will pass.
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7/9/2016 8:26:24 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/9/2016 6:41:44 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
For those of you who are unaware, Bernie Sanders was unfortunately defeated by Hillary for the Democratic nomination. Sanders was quite popular regardless, especially among the younger people. However, there has been talk of him still running. Sanders was an Independent senator, one of the two (the other being Angus King and before him Joe Lieberman). Sanders has been steadfast in his stance that keeping Donald Trump out of the White House is his top goal, and had used that justification against the possibility of a third-party run this fall. Sanders said he would refuse to play the spoiler, potentially splitting the left-leaning vote and allowing Trump to win. Sanders has shown disdain for the Democratic National Convention, something Trump capitalized on in one of his speeches and also encouraged Sanders to run independent (http://www.inquisitr.com...). People believe Bernie is the only way to stop Trump and Gallup reports that 60 percent believe a third party is needed "because the Republican and Democratic parties "do such a poor job" of representing the American people." Sanders' responses to this suggestion are far from a definitive "no" (http://www.salon.com...).

But things have taken an interesting turn. Green Party presumptive presidential candidate Jill Stein invited Bernie Sanders to take over her place as the party's nominee. Stein has 5 percent of the likely voters supporting her and she said, "If he saw that you can"t have a revolutionary campaign in a counter-revolutionary party, he"d be welcomed to the Green party. He could lead the ticket and build a political movement". Stein's suggestion has come right after Sanders was expected to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate. "If he continues to declare his full faith in the Democratic Party, it will leave many of his supporters very disappointed," she said. "That political movement is going to go on " it isn"t going to bury itself in the graveyard alongside Hillary Clinton." (http://www.ibtimes.com...).

Hillary Clinton is still the presumptive nominee and Sanders hasn't dropped out yet. Jill Stein has yet to announce a VP. Gary Johnson won the Independent ticket. So this brings up the obvious question, will Bernie Sanders run on the Green ticket? Do you think that he will agree to be Stein's VP, or do you think he will agree to replace Stein as the Green Party nominee? If so, do you think the Green Party will actually "stop Trump" or even possibly win the election? Do you think this would be a wise move for Sanders or should he not abandon his party? Do you think this would increase or decrease Trump's chance at winning? Do you think Sanders should just stick with endorsing Clinton instead? Discuss.

He should run... >:->

Mwaaahahahaha! Muahahahahahaha! Muahahahahahaha!

Okay that was wierd. Super wierd. And getting wierder as I go along....
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7/9/2016 8:26:25 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/9/2016 8:21:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/9/2016 7:56:16 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/9/2016 7:46:19 PM, bhakun wrote:
At 7/9/2016 6:41:44 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
If only he was smart enough to understand the stupidity of his policies...

Basically this. Heellllloooooo, the country is 19, oh wait, nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt and you want to make college free and raise the minimum wage. I know you don't care since you are a dinosaur anyway and won't be around to see the damage to your grand kids, but the rest of us will pass.

^ This
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/9/2016 9:04:57 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Stein already made tnis offer months ago, and Sanders ignored it then, as he will now. He's pushing for what's right and what we need, overall, (minus trade and the $15 MW), and since he's gotten most of those, he'll endorse Clinton.