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7/13/2016 4:02:56 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Because their infallable leader was...

1Invasion of WaddanAugust 623
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:256
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

2Invasion of BuwatOctober 623 [4][5]
Sahih Muslim, 42:7149
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [6]

3Invasion of Dul AshirDecember 623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [8]

4Invasion of Safwan623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [9]

5Battle of BadrMarch 624 [10]
[Quran"8:47], [Quran"68:25], [Quran"8:5], [Quran"8:6] and more[11]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:369, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:357, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2716, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:293 [12]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [13]

6Invasion of Sawiq624 [14]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [15]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [16]

7Invasion of Banu QaynuqaFebruary 624 [17]
[Quran"8:58],[18] [Quran"3:118],[19][20] [Quran"3:12], [Quran"3:13][21]
Sahih Muslim, 19:4364
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [22]
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community [23]

8Al Kudr InvasionMay 624
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [24]

9Invasion of Thi AmrSeptember 624 [25][26]
[Quran"5:11][27]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:458
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

10Invasion of Bahran624 [29]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [30]

11Battle of UhudMarch 23 625 [31][32]
[Quran"8:36],[33] [Quran"3:122], [Quran"3:167]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:276, Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:30:108 [35]

12Invasion of Hamra al-AsadMarch 625
[Quran"3:172], [Quran"3:173], [Quran"3:174]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:404 [42]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [43]

13Invasion of Banu NadirAugust 625
Quran chapter 59, and [Quran"2:256]
Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2676[46]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:39:519
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[47]
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[48]

14Expedition of Dhat al-RiqaOctober 625 or 627
Quran 4:101 and 5:11
Sahih Muslim, 4:1830
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community[49]

15Invasion of BadrJanuary 626[50] or March 625[51]
Quran 3:173-176
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:627
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

16Invasion of Dumatul JandalJuly 626
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

17Battle of the TrenchFebruary 627
Quran 33:10-13, [Quran"3:22]
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:435, Sahih Muslim, 31:4940 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[56]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

18Invasion of Banu QurayzaFebruary"March 627
[Quran"33:26],[58] Quran 33:09 & 33:10
Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4390
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:68, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:57:66 and more
Tabari, Volume 8, Victory of Islam

19Invasion of Banu LahyanSeptember 627
Sahih Muslim, 20:4672
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

20Treaty of HudaybiyyahMarch 628
[Quran"48:24], [Quran"48:18] [65]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

21Conquest of FidakMay 628
[Quran"59:6],[Quran"59:7]
Sahih Muslim, 19:2961
Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal

22Battle of KhaybarMay/June 628
[Quran"48:15], [Quran"48:20][71]
Sahih Bukhari
Sahih Muslim, 19:4450[72]

23Third Expedition of Wadi al QuraMay 628
Al-Muwatta, 21 13.25
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[73]

24Conquest of MeccaDecember 629
Quran 12:91-92, [Quran"34:49], [Quran"49:13][75]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:582, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2678 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

25Battle of HunaynJanuary 630
[Quran"9:25], [Quran"9:26] [78]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:370, Al-Muwatta, 21 10.19[78]

26Battle of Autas630 [79]
[Quran"4:24]
Sahih Muslim, 8:3432, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:612 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

27Siege of Ta'ifJanuary 630
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:615, Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:93:572 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

28Battle of TaboukOctober 630

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...
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7/13/2016 4:20:51 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/13/2016 4:02:56 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Because their infallable leader was...

1Invasion of WaddanAugust 623
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:256
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

2Invasion of BuwatOctober 623 [4][5]
Sahih Muslim, 42:7149
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [6]

3Invasion of Dul AshirDecember 623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [8]

4Invasion of Safwan623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [9]

5Battle of BadrMarch 624 [10]
[Quran"8:47], [Quran"68:25], [Quran"8:5], [Quran"8:6] and more[11]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:369, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:357, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2716, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:293 [12]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [13]

6Invasion of Sawiq624 [14]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [15]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [16]

7Invasion of Banu QaynuqaFebruary 624 [17]
[Quran"8:58],[18] [Quran"3:118],[19][20] [Quran"3:12], [Quran"3:13][21]
Sahih Muslim, 19:4364
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [22]
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community [23]

8Al Kudr InvasionMay 624
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [24]

9Invasion of Thi AmrSeptember 624 [25][26]
[Quran"5:11][27]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:458
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

10Invasion of Bahran624 [29]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [30]

11Battle of UhudMarch 23 625 [31][32]
[Quran"8:36],[33] [Quran"3:122], [Quran"3:167]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:276, Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:30:108 [35]

12Invasion of Hamra al-AsadMarch 625
[Quran"3:172], [Quran"3:173], [Quran"3:174]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:404 [42]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [43]

13Invasion of Banu NadirAugust 625
Quran chapter 59, and [Quran"2:256]
Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2676[46]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:39:519
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[47]
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[48]

14Expedition of Dhat al-RiqaOctober 625 or 627
Quran 4:101 and 5:11
Sahih Muslim, 4:1830
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community[49]

15Invasion of BadrJanuary 626[50] or March 625[51]
Quran 3:173-176
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:627
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

16Invasion of Dumatul JandalJuly 626
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

17Battle of the TrenchFebruary 627
Quran 33:10-13, [Quran"3:22]
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:435, Sahih Muslim, 31:4940 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[56]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

18Invasion of Banu QurayzaFebruary"March 627
[Quran"33:26],[58] Quran 33:09 & 33:10
Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4390
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:68, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:57:66 and more
Tabari, Volume 8, Victory of Islam

19Invasion of Banu LahyanSeptember 627
Sahih Muslim, 20:4672
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

20Treaty of HudaybiyyahMarch 628
[Quran"48:24], [Quran"48:18] [65]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

21Conquest of FidakMay 628
[Quran"59:6],[Quran"59:7]
Sahih Muslim, 19:2961
Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal

22Battle of KhaybarMay/June 628
[Quran"48:15], [Quran"48:20][71]
Sahih Bukhari
Sahih Muslim, 19:4450[72]

23Third Expedition of Wadi al QuraMay 628
Al-Muwatta, 21 13.25
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[73]

24Conquest of MeccaDecember 629
Quran 12:91-92, [Quran"34:49], [Quran"49:13][75]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:582, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2678 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

25Battle of HunaynJanuary 630
[Quran"9:25], [Quran"9:26] [78]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:370, Al-Muwatta, 21 10.19[78]

26Battle of Autas630 [79]
[Quran"4:24]
Sahih Muslim, 8:3432, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:612 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

27Siege of Ta'ifJanuary 630
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:615, Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:93:572 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

28Battle of TaboukOctober 630

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

Thanks for stating something that was quite hard to figure out. Can I now make a forum topic explaining why 1+1=2?
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7/13/2016 4:34:46 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/13/2016 4:20:51 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 7/13/2016 4:02:56 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Because their infallable leader was...

1Invasion of WaddanAugust 623
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:256
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

2Invasion of BuwatOctober 623 [4][5]
Sahih Muslim, 42:7149
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [6]

3Invasion of Dul AshirDecember 623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [8]

4Invasion of Safwan623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [9]

5Battle of BadrMarch 624 [10]
[Quran"8:47], [Quran"68:25], [Quran"8:5], [Quran"8:6] and more[11]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:369, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:357, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2716, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:293 [12]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [13]

6Invasion of Sawiq624 [14]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [15]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [16]

7Invasion of Banu QaynuqaFebruary 624 [17]
[Quran"8:58],[18] [Quran"3:118],[19][20] [Quran"3:12], [Quran"3:13][21]
Sahih Muslim, 19:4364
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [22]
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community [23]

8Al Kudr InvasionMay 624
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [24]

9Invasion of Thi AmrSeptember 624 [25][26]
[Quran"5:11][27]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:458
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

10Invasion of Bahran624 [29]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [30]

11Battle of UhudMarch 23 625 [31][32]
[Quran"8:36],[33] [Quran"3:122], [Quran"3:167]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:276, Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:30:108 [35]

12Invasion of Hamra al-AsadMarch 625
[Quran"3:172], [Quran"3:173], [Quran"3:174]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:404 [42]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [43]

13Invasion of Banu NadirAugust 625
Quran chapter 59, and [Quran"2:256]
Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2676[46]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:39:519
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[47]
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[48]

14Expedition of Dhat al-RiqaOctober 625 or 627
Quran 4:101 and 5:11
Sahih Muslim, 4:1830
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community[49]

15Invasion of BadrJanuary 626[50] or March 625[51]
Quran 3:173-176
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:627
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

16Invasion of Dumatul JandalJuly 626
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

17Battle of the TrenchFebruary 627
Quran 33:10-13, [Quran"3:22]
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:435, Sahih Muslim, 31:4940 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[56]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

18Invasion of Banu QurayzaFebruary"March 627
[Quran"33:26],[58] Quran 33:09 & 33:10
Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4390
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:68, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:57:66 and more
Tabari, Volume 8, Victory of Islam

19Invasion of Banu LahyanSeptember 627
Sahih Muslim, 20:4672
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

20Treaty of HudaybiyyahMarch 628
[Quran"48:24], [Quran"48:18] [65]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

21Conquest of FidakMay 628
[Quran"59:6],[Quran"59:7]
Sahih Muslim, 19:2961
Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal

22Battle of KhaybarMay/June 628
[Quran"48:15], [Quran"48:20][71]
Sahih Bukhari
Sahih Muslim, 19:4450[72]

23Third Expedition of Wadi al QuraMay 628
Al-Muwatta, 21 13.25
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[73]

24Conquest of MeccaDecember 629
Quran 12:91-92, [Quran"34:49], [Quran"49:13][75]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:582, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2678 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

25Battle of HunaynJanuary 630
[Quran"9:25], [Quran"9:26] [78]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:370, Al-Muwatta, 21 10.19[78]

26Battle of Autas630 [79]
[Quran"4:24]
Sahih Muslim, 8:3432, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:612 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

27Siege of Ta'ifJanuary 630
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:615, Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:93:572 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

28Battle of TaboukOctober 630

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

Thanks for stating something that was quite hard to figure out. Can I now make a forum topic explaining why 1+1=2?

Yes. Make a debate about it and challenge me. I'll show you that 1+1 does not equal 2.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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7/14/2016 12:28:03 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

It doesn't rl"refute" Islam. It is one of many proofs that Muhammed was violent, unstable, and actually probably insane.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/14/2016 12:56:56 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/13/2016 4:02:56 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Because their infallable leader was...

1Invasion of WaddanAugust 623
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:256
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

2Invasion of BuwatOctober 623 [4][5]
Sahih Muslim, 42:7149
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [6]

3Invasion of Dul AshirDecember 623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [8]

4Invasion of Safwan623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [9]

5Battle of BadrMarch 624 [10]
[Quran"8:47], [Quran"68:25], [Quran"8:5], [Quran"8:6] and more[11]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:369, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:357, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2716, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:293 [12]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [13]

6Invasion of Sawiq624 [14]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [15]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [16]

7Invasion of Banu QaynuqaFebruary 624 [17]
[Quran"8:58],[18] [Quran"3:118],[19][20] [Quran"3:12], [Quran"3:13][21]
Sahih Muslim, 19:4364
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [22]
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community [23]

8Al Kudr InvasionMay 624
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [24]

9Invasion of Thi AmrSeptember 624 [25][26]
[Quran"5:11][27]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:458
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

10Invasion of Bahran624 [29]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [30]

11Battle of UhudMarch 23 625 [31][32]
[Quran"8:36],[33] [Quran"3:122], [Quran"3:167]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:276, Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:30:108 [35]

12Invasion of Hamra al-AsadMarch 625
[Quran"3:172], [Quran"3:173], [Quran"3:174]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:404 [42]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [43]

13Invasion of Banu NadirAugust 625
Quran chapter 59, and [Quran"2:256]
Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2676[46]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:39:519
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[47]
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[48]

14Expedition of Dhat al-RiqaOctober 625 or 627
Quran 4:101 and 5:11
Sahih Muslim, 4:1830
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community[49]

15Invasion of BadrJanuary 626[50] or March 625[51]
Quran 3:173-176
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:627
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

16Invasion of Dumatul JandalJuly 626
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

17Battle of the TrenchFebruary 627
Quran 33:10-13, [Quran"3:22]
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:435, Sahih Muslim, 31:4940 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[56]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

18Invasion of Banu QurayzaFebruary"March 627
[Quran"33:26],[58] Quran 33:09 & 33:10
Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4390
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:68, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:57:66 and more
Tabari, Volume 8, Victory of Islam

19Invasion of Banu LahyanSeptember 627
Sahih Muslim, 20:4672
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

20Treaty of HudaybiyyahMarch 628
[Quran"48:24], [Quran"48:18] [65]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

21Conquest of FidakMay 628
[Quran"59:6],[Quran"59:7]
Sahih Muslim, 19:2961
Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal

22Battle of KhaybarMay/June 628
[Quran"48:15], [Quran"48:20][71]
Sahih Bukhari
Sahih Muslim, 19:4450[72]

23Third Expedition of Wadi al QuraMay 628
Al-Muwatta, 21 13.25
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[73]

24Conquest of MeccaDecember 629
Quran 12:91-92, [Quran"34:49], [Quran"49:13][75]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:582, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2678 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

25Battle of HunaynJanuary 630
[Quran"9:25], [Quran"9:26] [78]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:370, Al-Muwatta, 21 10.19[78]

26Battle of Autas630 [79]
[Quran"4:24]
Sahih Muslim, 8:3432, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:612 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

27Siege of Ta'ifJanuary 630
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:615, Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:93:572 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

28Battle of TaboukOctober 630

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

That is just a list of the military campaigns the prophet Mohammed led. Have you even read the Old Testament? Many important biblical figures, like Joshua, Solomon, Josiah, Saul, David and many others led military campaigns, and some are even called War lords by historians. Heck, Joshua's actions in Jehrico arguably ammount to ethnic cleansing.

What point are you even trying to make here?
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7/14/2016 1:01:28 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 12:28:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

It doesn't rl"refute" Islam. It is one of many proofs that Muhammed was violent, unstable, and actually probably insane.

Um, what? By this logic every military leader in history was unstable and insane. I won't challenge the violent point because war is inherently violent, however in tribal societies like early Arabian society, warfare was very very common and conflict was the norm, so saying that because Mohammed engaged in warfare he was unstable or he was insane makes no sense at all. Was everyone in that time insane?
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7/14/2016 1:07:59 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 12:28:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

It doesn't rl"refute" Islam. It is one of many proofs that Muhammed was violent, unstable, and actually probably insane.

And how does having a military record make you insane? Why not play that same standard on other historical figures, say, the Founding Fathers of the US.
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7/14/2016 1:11:43 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 1:01:28 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 12:28:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

It doesn't rl"refute" Islam. It is one of many proofs that Muhammed was violent, unstable, and actually probably insane.

Um, what? By this logic every military leader in history was unstable and insane. I won't challenge the violent point because war is inherently violent, however in tribal societies like early Arabian society, warfare was very very common and conflict was the norm, so saying that because Mohammed engaged in warfare he was unstable or he was insane makes no sense at all. Was everyone in that time insane?

Need I also add that much of these military encounters were either a response to treason (Take Banu Qurayzah and Banu Qaynuqa for example, not forgetting to mention that one of said tribes were allowed to leave scotch free.), an act of self defence (Battle of Badr) or a reaction to blatant acts of treaty breaking (Hudaybiyyah).
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7/14/2016 1:21:25 AM
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At 7/14/2016 1:11:43 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 7/14/2016 1:01:28 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 12:28:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

It doesn't rl"refute" Islam. It is one of many proofs that Muhammed was violent, unstable, and actually probably insane.

Um, what? By this logic every military leader in history was unstable and insane. I won't challenge the violent point because war is inherently violent, however in tribal societies like early Arabian society, warfare was very very common and conflict was the norm, so saying that because Mohammed engaged in warfare he was unstable or he was insane makes no sense at all. Was everyone in that time insane?

Need I also add that much of these military encounters were either a response to treason (Take Banu Qurayzah and Banu Qaynuqa for example, not forgetting to mention that one of said tribes were allowed to leave scotch free.), an act of self defence (Battle of Badr) or a reaction to blatant acts of treaty breaking (Hudaybiyyah).

Good point
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7/14/2016 2:02:45 AM
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At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

Islam must be destroyed. The heretics will be crushed.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

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7/14/2016 2:04:09 AM
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At 7/14/2016 2:02:45 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

Islam must be destroyed. The heretics will be crushed.

http://i.imgur.com...

Arius did nothing wrong.
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7/14/2016 2:05:05 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:04:09 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:02:45 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

Islam must be destroyed. The heretics will be crushed.

http://i.imgur.com...

Arius did nothing wrong.

The God Emperor of Mankind will crush these heathens.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/14/2016 2:07:14 AM
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At 7/14/2016 2:05:05 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:04:09 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:02:45 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

Islam must be destroyed. The heretics will be crushed.

http://i.imgur.com...

Arius did nothing wrong.

The God Emperor of Mankind will crush these heathens.

Horus did nothing wrong,
"Praise Allah."
~YYW
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7/14/2016 2:09:02 AM
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At 7/14/2016 2:07:14 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:05:05 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:04:09 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:02:45 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

Islam must be destroyed. The heretics will be crushed.

http://i.imgur.com...

Arius did nothing wrong.

The God Emperor of Mankind will crush these heathens.

Horus did nothing wrong,

The Crusades were awesome and justified.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/14/2016 2:21:22 AM
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At 7/14/2016 2:09:02 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:07:14 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:05:05 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:04:09 AM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:02:45 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/13/2016 7:41:13 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
And this refutes Islam how?

Islam must be destroyed. The heretics will be crushed.

http://i.imgur.com...

Arius did nothing wrong.

The God Emperor of Mankind will crush these heathens.

Horus did nothing wrong,

The Crusades were awesome and justified.

*triggered*
"Praise Allah."
~YYW
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7/16/2016 1:20:50 AM
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At 7/13/2016 4:02:56 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Because their infallable leader was...

1Invasion of WaddanAugust 623
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:256
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

2Invasion of BuwatOctober 623 [4][5]
Sahih Muslim, 42:7149
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [6]

3Invasion of Dul AshirDecember 623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [8]

4Invasion of Safwan623 [7]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [9]

5Battle of BadrMarch 624 [10]
[Quran"8:47], [Quran"68:25], [Quran"8:5], [Quran"8:6] and more[11]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:369, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:357, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2716, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:293 [12]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [13]

6Invasion of Sawiq624 [14]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [15]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [16]

7Invasion of Banu QaynuqaFebruary 624 [17]
[Quran"8:58],[18] [Quran"3:118],[19][20] [Quran"3:12], [Quran"3:13][21]
Sahih Muslim, 19:4364
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2 [22]
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community [23]

8Al Kudr InvasionMay 624
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [24]

9Invasion of Thi AmrSeptember 624 [25][26]
[Quran"5:11][27]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:458
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

10Invasion of Bahran624 [29]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [30]

11Battle of UhudMarch 23 625 [31][32]
[Quran"8:36],[33] [Quran"3:122], [Quran"3:167]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:276, Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:30:108 [35]

12Invasion of Hamra al-AsadMarch 625
[Quran"3:172], [Quran"3:173], [Quran"3:174]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:404 [42]
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq [43]

13Invasion of Banu NadirAugust 625
Quran chapter 59, and [Quran"2:256]
Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2676[46]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:39:519
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[47]
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[48]

14Expedition of Dhat al-RiqaOctober 625 or 627
Quran 4:101 and 5:11
Sahih Muslim, 4:1830
Tabari, Volume 7, The foundation of the community[49]

15Invasion of BadrJanuary 626[50] or March 625[51]
Quran 3:173-176
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:627
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

16Invasion of Dumatul JandalJuly 626
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

17Battle of the TrenchFebruary 627
Quran 33:10-13, [Quran"3:22]
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:435, Sahih Muslim, 31:4940 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq[56]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

18Invasion of Banu QurayzaFebruary"March 627
[Quran"33:26],[58] Quran 33:09 & 33:10
Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4390
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:68, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:57:66 and more
Tabari, Volume 8, Victory of Islam

19Invasion of Banu LahyanSeptember 627
Sahih Muslim, 20:4672
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

20Treaty of HudaybiyyahMarch 628
[Quran"48:24], [Quran"48:18] [65]
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

21Conquest of FidakMay 628
[Quran"59:6],[Quran"59:7]
Sahih Muslim, 19:2961
Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal

22Battle of KhaybarMay/June 628
[Quran"48:15], [Quran"48:20][71]
Sahih Bukhari
Sahih Muslim, 19:4450[72]

23Third Expedition of Wadi al QuraMay 628
Al-Muwatta, 21 13.25
Tabari, Volume 9, The last years of the Prophet[73]

24Conquest of MeccaDecember 629
Quran 12:91-92, [Quran"34:49], [Quran"49:13][75]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:582, Sunan Abu Dawood, 14:2678 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

25Battle of HunaynJanuary 630
[Quran"9:25], [Quran"9:26] [78]
Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:53:370, Al-Muwatta, 21 10.19[78]

26Battle of Autas630 [79]
[Quran"4:24]
Sahih Muslim, 8:3432, Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:612 and more
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-tabaqat al-kabir, Volume 2

27Siege of Ta'ifJanuary 630
Sahih al-Bukhari, 5:59:615, Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:93:572 and more
Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq

28Battle of TaboukOctober 630

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This is why he has followers such as Fatiha nad Uncung, both wacked out dumb *ss Jihadists.