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**The US 2020 Presidential Election**

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7/13/2016 11:13:38 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
For those of you who are unaware, we are currently in what is called the "Parties at War" period, the seventh party era. This is where the parties are "generally" evenly distributed, well-funded, and are continually shifting towards ideological extremes. This is "bad". If there's a divided House, you will not get anything done. This election has become a "reality TV show election", and it has been accused of being a possible catalyst for the 7th era to become worse. Why does this matter? Well, no matter who wins this election the political landscape will change. Rumor has it that the Republican party is on the verge of fracturing (https://www.washingtonpost.com...) and even possibly the Democratic party (https://www.washingtonpost.com...). The 2020 election cycle is when the nation will determine the control of governor"s mansions and legislatures that decide Congressional district lines. Those district lines in turn will likely determine control of the House for the next decade. After another economic downturn that punishes the middle class but lets the rich off lightly shows again that the crisis facing the American economy cannot be resolved with another set of minor tweaks, the nation will be even more primed make a choice between going much further left, or much further right. And at least one or two Supreme Court justices will remain in play. (http://washingtonmonthly.com...).

So then we'll have it, the 2016 election and whatever comes with it, but then there's the 2020 election: the candidates who have to deal with the aftermath.
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7/13/2016 11:13:47 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
So far, here's the suggested candidates for the Democratic Party:
1) U.S. Senator Cory Booker: Pretty much everyone believes Booker, who's also the former mayor of Newark, harbors presidential ambitions " a 2013 Guardian profile highlighted how Booker has "scripted his rise and he has made sure cameras have been there each step of the way, earning a reputation as a glossy publicity-seeker." On one occasion, he rescued a woman from a burning building; it was neither the first nor the last time Booker has fancied himself the hero. In a Democratic Party that has found itself splitting along progressive and centrist battle lines in the 2016 race, Booker falls squarely into the neoliberal camp. "In many ways, he's a throwback to the old Democratic Leadership Council, combining a touch of fiscal conservatism with a socially liberal conscience," Michael Taube wrote in the Washington Times. "He is more than willing to attack the politics-as-usual crowd, and likes to break from the pack."

2) Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro: Castro is a potential VP for Clinton. He has been frequently been compared to Obama and the Democrats see him as a "rising star", especially after his keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention.

3) Hillary Clinton: Yes, if she wins she might run for re-election, if she loses she might try again.

4) Governor Andrew Cuomo: Cuomo, like Booker, has practically worn his desire to one day sit in the White House on his sleeve. There's one potential problem: Despite his recent attempts to become the face of progressive politics throughout the Empire State (such as endorsing a $15 minimum wage), many Democrats are likely to view Cuomo as a wolf in sheep's clothing. As Vox's Andrew Prokop reported in 2014, Cuomo consistently struck positions on economic and budget issues, which today seem out of touch with the zeitgeist of his party, such as cutting taxes for the wealthy, support for large-scale budget cuts and opposition to public financing of elections. "Many New York progressives think that Cuomo has made a bet on what Democrats truly care about " that if he gives activists what they want on social issues, he can get away with giving the wealthy what they want on economic issues," Prokop wrote, adding many leftists are wary the combination could ultimately be a potent presidential formula.

5) U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand: Gillibrand is relatively popular in her home state with an approval rating of 47% to just 21% disapproval in an April Public Policy Polling survey. A 2013 Politico profile noted her rising-star status within the party, in particular how Gillibrand "managed not only to ease liberals' misgivings about her but also to win their enthusiastic support " all while maintaining her moderate cred and doing the kind of behind-the-scenes political scut work that could enable an eventual national bid." Gillibrand is often discussed as having a loyal cadre of female supporters. Coupled with her strong fundraising skills and close ties to Clinton's existing political network, Gillibrand is more than a viable candidate for a future bid.

6) State Attorney General Kamala Harris: A vastly experienced lawmaker, with a mix of African and Asian roots, married to a white attorney, Douglas Emhoff, Harris, who was born in Oakland, California, has proved to be a friend of the Latino community, which would take away the advantage of some of the Latino challengers down the road. She would be a hard combination to beat. Harris is the de facto ambassador to spread President Barack Obama"s message of his executive powers to regulate immigration reforms, especially for the illegal immigrants. The Latino community will support her.

7) Governor John Hickenlooper: Hickenlooper certainly has plenty to crow about. The marijuana legalization has resulted in a booming economy. The state"s unemployment rate is below the national average, and uninsured rates are low as well. Add to that, he"s a popular Democratic governor in a swing state with deeply conservative pockets.

8) U.S. Senator Tim Kaine: Once solidly red, Virginia is now decidedly purple, having twice voted for Obama and then electing a Democratic governor and two Democratic Senators. One of those Senators, Tim Kaine, could be the rising southern-state star that the Democratic Party is looking for. Kaine has a kind of down-to-earth, straight-talk demeanor vaguely reminiscent of Bill Clinton, and he"s a pro at raising money from the Democratic machine, having run the Democratic National Committee from 2009 to 2011. He"s got the resume and the smarts to run, and as a bonus, he speaks fluent Spanish, having lived in Honduras on a mission in his twenties.

9) Former Governor Martin O'Malley: Martin O"Malley is a quintessential Democrat. He embodies many progressive ideas, and has a set of 15 goals for the country that he would have implemented if he was elected this year. O"Malley had a goal of having a 100-percent renewable electric grid by the year 2050. The environmental and economic impacts of that goal would be monumental for our country and our world. He also wanted to cut the youth unemployment rate in half by bringing back job programs for young people. This would make college more affordable and would put money back in the American Infrastructure.

10) Former Governor Deval Patrick: Obama is said to favor former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, a close Obama ally who is the first and only African American to have served as governor of the Bay State. The Governor recently announced a $20 million initiative to combat the opioid epidemic.

11) U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren: Warren's support is sometimes overstated (a poll supposedly showing her beating out Clinton among Democrats was widely criticized). But having stayed out of the fray this year, she's managed to maintain cordial relations with both wings of the Democratic Party " centrists and progressives. One theory on why Warren stayed out in 2016? She wants the opportunity to expand her national footprint under a potential Democratic administration. The number of voters who did "not know enough" to weigh in on Warren has plummeted dramatically in the past two years, according to the Huffington Post.

12) U.S. Representative Tammy Duckworth: Duckworth has an amazing background: she was one of the first two female combat veterans elected to Congress, and she lost both legs and the use of one of her arms after her Black Hawk helicopter was shot down over Iraq. Her resiliency and toughness have earned her the respect of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, and she frequently collaborates with GOP colleagues on veterans and military issues. She also served in Obama"s VA, solidifying her stature with the Democratic Party. Her focus on national security issues, while a great strength in Congress, could be a weakness in a general presidential election usually more centered around domestic and economic issues.
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7/13/2016 11:14:17 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Here's the suggested candidates for the Republican Party
1) U.S. Representative Joe Walsh: This Former Congressman Stated He"d Run For President In 2020 If Hillary Clinton Wins. Anyone who has heard Joe Walsh speak knows his energy level is off the charts. He speaks his mind which is filled with a disdain for the politics in Washington D.C. and he speaks to audiences with a common sense appeal. Joe Walsh is fiery and what people our age might call "a savage." He fought the establishment while in Congress and was immediately seen as a big critic of Obama when he first began his time in Washington, and when he spoke to us at the retreat.

2) Governor Greg Abbott: Abbott pretty much blazed through the chart. With the news that Texas Abbott"s book Broken But Unbowed: The Fight to Fix a Broken America will be released next month, the governor isn"t attempting to veil his ambition. And despite the weakness of the governorship in Texas relative to other states, Texas execs have a long history of running for the highest office in the land. Abbott would be the third Texas governor in a row to run, succeeding Perry and Bush. One Abbott supporter said she thought he would add "poise and dignity" to national Republican politics. Abbott still maintains his focus is on returning authority to the states.

3) U.S. Senator Kelly Ayotte: She is highly intelligent, has great charisma, and has an aura that draws large crowds around her at cocktail parties and events. She"s known as a strong supporter of the military, and her husband was an Air Force pilot. In her short time in the Senate, she"s risen to be a leader within the Republican national security wonk crowd. On the negative side, cozying up to close friends Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham may help to earn her some respect among the national security hawks, but it won"t help to solidify her Tea Party credentials, considering that the Tea Party just unsuccessfully tried to take out Graham with a primary challenge from the right.

4) Governor Charlie Baker: If ultra-conservatives continue to call the shots nationally, Baker will likely be branded a RINO (Republican in name only) and he"d be dismissed early on. But if the establishment is able to retake the reins, they might very well encourage Baker to consider a run. He"s a Republican in a predominantly Democratic state. He has (at least for now) very high favorability ratings. He"s got real-world business experience, and he"s a genuinely affable guy.

5) Governor Chris Christie: Regardless of how Christie"s flirtation with the presidency affects his governing style, he will be faced with a Democratic opposition that has advanced what may be the party"s most extreme agenda in recent memory, partly in response to Christie having been able to block the Democrats at virtually every turn. Being able to work with the other side has long been part of the governor"s narrative. And showing progress on some the state"s longstanding problems could be a strong selling point for the long list of candidates in both parties who aspire to succeed Christie.

6) U.S. Senator Tom Cotton: Earlier this year, Cotton's supporters rallied behind a bill currently being contemplated by Arkansas state legislators that would allow candidates to seek multiple offices during the same election. Arkansas State Sen. Bart Hester, who proposed the bill, said he had Cotton in mind as a beneficiary of the legislation. Cotton is certainly not without controversy " before the Iran deal was ever finalized, he addressed a letter to Iranian leaders that said that any deal Iran made with the United States could be struck down by a future president.

7) U.S. Senator Ted Cruz: There's no question Cruz, who has won well over 7 million votes and locked up over 20% of the total number of Republican delegates, sees himself making another run at the presidency. In a recent call to donors, Cruz and his wife, Goldman Sachs executive Heidi Cruz, compared his campaign run to the fight against slavery: "It took 25 years to defeat slavery. That is a lot longer than four years." Cruz has a well-established national fundraising and organizing network, and won over a considerable margin of "very conservative" Republican voters who will likely continue to play a large role in the future direction of the party.

8) U.S. Senator Cory Gardner: In that often-ugly contest Democratic groups tried to paint Gardner as out-of-the-mainstream on abortion and contraception, and hostile to immigrants. Gardner "has become one of the House"s most active players on energy issues. Representing an area that includes an ethanol plant, wind farms and solar manufactures as well as rich shale oil and natural gas deposits, he has sought to get the GOP to move beyond its fossil-fuels-first orientation."

9) Governor Nikki Haley: Haley, Politico wrote in February, is "the youngest governor in the country, and the first woman and first Indian-American to hold the office in South Carolina" " and boasts approval ratings of up to 80% or more. The biggest challenge Haley faces is the perception that her "resolutely anti-Obamacare, pro-Second Amendment and budget hawkish views" have somehow mellowed in a year dominated by firebrand conservatives like Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Trump. The Week's Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry made the case for a Haley third-party conservative run this year, arguing that her "principled opposition" to Trump and decision to take down the Confederate flag flying at the state Capitol could help drive the GOP away from white identity politics.

10) Governor John Kasich: At 63 Kasich is young enough to take another shot in 2020 or 2024 and by then the Republican Party electorate may have evolved again and a more moderate Republican could get the nomination. But it"s a long shot at best that he would attempt a third run for the presidency. Kasich anticipates a Republican Party ready for a candidate who would attempt to portray himself as a moderate.
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7/13/2016 11:14:43 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
11) U.S. Senator Rand Paul: Rand Paul"s high profile Senate career will enable him to run for President again in 2020 or 2024 " depending on who wins the White House in November. He"ll be able to regroup and focus on perfecting his message over the next four years. He can continue to build his coalition and advocate for libertarian issues with filibusters as he has done thus far.

12) Governor Mike Pence: Pence, a plausible presidential contender in 2020, is one of those Republicans with a lot on the line. He considered a presidential bid this year but decided to run for a second term as governor instead. However, his re-election this November is not assured. Pence did say he"d back Trump against Hillary Clinton " or if he thinks supporting Cruz could help his positioning in 2020.

13) Governor Bruce Rauner: Rauner must create the perception that the General Assembly"s lopsided Democratic majorities are misgoverning and that he stands athwart the abyss. He is against tax hikes and prevailing and minimum wage hikes and for a balanced budget, pension, tort and workers" compensation reforms, right to work and term limits. None of those initiatives will pass. Rauner is not hesitant to excoriate public sector unions, Illinois House Speaker Mike Madigan and Illinois Senate President John Cullerton. He"s acting like a Republican, and he"s keeping his campaign promise to "shake up Springfield."

14) U.S. Senator Ben Sasse: Sasse, 43, is a political wunderkind of sorts. He"s a rare Ph.D. in Congress " and a strong conservative to boot. The fifth-generation Nebraskan wrestled as an undergrad at Harvard. He holds a Master"s from St. John"s College in Annapolis, and two Master"s degrees and a Ph.D. (in history) from Yale. Since taking office Sasse has become a leading Republican voice on health care reform. With the fate of Obamacare hanging on an upcoming Supreme Court decision weighing whether federal subsidies are allowable, Sasse is the first GOP lawmaker to come up with a full-threated alternative.

15) Businessman Donald Trump: Presuming Trump loses or doesn't install a monarchy if he wins, there is a chance he will run again in 2020.

16) Governor Scott Walker: Walker has kept a lower profile since September, focusing on a jam-packed schedule of "listening tour" events across Wisconsin and looking to boost his flagging poll numbers. But Walker has simultaneously preserved his national political infrastructure and even, via campaign duties for Republican governors, opened new doors to a second act in national politics " including a possible second shot at running for president.

17) U.S. Representative Cathy Rodgers: She was the GOP"s spokeswoman (emphasis on the latter half of that word) in 2012 to help mend the party"s standing with some female voters, but she didn"t achieve household recognition. She gave the GOP"s rebuttal to Obama"s 2014 State of the Union address, but she didn"t quite garner the fame that past speakers in her position have found. She was mentioned as a possible House Majority Whip contender before the vote last month, but she didn"t mount a serious campaign. She has strong and solidly conservative positions. Because of her own personal story, she is a sincere advocate for the military and for children with special needs. When she speaks, she can relate well to many women, including mothers, who often empathize with her story.

Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan have said "no" to a potential candidacy for the 2020 election.
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7/13/2016 11:15:21 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
And here's the Third Party potential candidates so far:

1) Talk Show Host Adam Kokesh: Liberty activist Adam Kokesh says he will run for President in 2020 on a platform of abolishing the US government. He does not say what party"s nomination he will seek. Kokesh is currently in jail on drug and weapons charges. Adam Kokesh believes the U.S. military is more harmful than helpful to American security, and the government " as a whole " has burdened its citizenry with debt.

2) Journalist Dan Rattiner: Dan Rattiner is a journalist and newspaper publisher who is seeking the presidency in 2020 because he is convinced that whoever is elected in 2016 will "screw things up" just as past presidents have done. Armed with the slogan #ForwardWithDan, Rattiner has made his announcement this early in the game because he says that he wants to launch a five-and-a-half-year fundraising program. "I run on a platform of peace, prosperity, harmony, the sanctity of individual freedom, the respect for law and order and, as some long ago President What"s-His-Name said, speaking softly and carrying a big stick. I will bring us together, not only the simple folks and regular folks of my party but also the simple, regular and even the rich folks of the other party. We will all march together, arm in arm, FORWARD WITH DAN, into the future."

3) Rapper Kanye West: In his acceptance speech for the 2015 Lifetime Achievement Award " presented to him by Taylor Swift, of course " West announced that he would run for president in 2020 after speaking explicitly on the millennial generation and the importance of new ideas. As unexpected as his announcement might seem, he has a history of speaking out about politics. He famously said that George W. Bush didn't care about black people at a Hurricane Katrina benefit concert in 2005. He endorsed Barack Obama for the presidency, but that didn't stop him of being critical of the Obama administration. At any rate, it looks like the DNC has welcomed West into the 2020 race with open arms.

4) Businessman Mark Cuban: Most people know Cuban as the hyperactive owner of the Dallas Mavericks. But he is also a very successful entrepreneur who sold Broadcast.com to Yahoo for almost $2 billion in the late 1990s. He has been a critic of Donald Trump, stating that "he hasn't learned" and his candidacy is "about nothing". "I think Donald has a real chance to win, and that's scary to a lot of people," Cuban said. "But what's scary about it to me is that you can see him now trying to do what he thinks is right to unify the party. And he's listening to everybody, which is fine on the surface. But what's also happening is it's coming across as if he's proposing things based off the last person he talks to."
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7/13/2016 11:15:58 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
(Sources and whatevs: https://mic.com..., http://www.bustle.com..., http://www.thestate.com..., https://www.fiscalnote.com..., http://hppr.org..., http://news.wgbh.org..., http://www.americanbazaaronline.com..., http://independentpoliticalreport.com..., and http://www.washingtonexaminer.com...)
(More sources and whatevas http://futurefemaleleader.com..., http://hppr.org..., http://www.wbur.org..., http://www.app.com..., http://spectator.org..., http://www.mydaytondailynews.com..., http://thedailybanter.com..., https://alibertarianfuture.com..., http://fivethirtyeight.com..., http://nadignewspapers.com..., and http://www.politico.com...).


So, what do you DDOers think? Who do you think will be able to improve the United States? Who do you think will get the most popularity? Who do you think will flop? Who do you agree with most? How do you think voters will vote in the 2020 election (prospective, retrospective, or Electoral Competition Model of voting)? Whose chances do you think will increase based on who wins the 2016 election? Who do you think will be able to help end the Parties at War era? Do you have any ideas for other possible candidates? Discuss.
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7/13/2016 11:55:07 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Kanye West must NEVER become president! Period.

He's so selfish and full of himself! He should just stick to rapping!
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7/14/2016 1:26:45 AM
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What you have failed to take into consideration Peters is the zero year effect.
A president who wins an election in a year ending in zero, will lose his life while in office.
1800) the election was a tie with both men getting the same number of electoral votes. Congress gave the job to Jefferson.
1820 ) James Monroe ran for re-election unopposed
1840 ) William Henry Harrison.. Died a few months after he was inaugurated.
1860 ) Lincoln ; shot
1880 ) Garfield ; shot
1900 ) McKinley ; shot , Teddy Roosevelt won as vice president and was shot too ,but he recovered.
1920 ) Warren G. Harding, food poisoning
1940 ) Franklin D Roosevelt, Kept getting re-elected until he died of old age.
1960 ) Kennedy .. shot
1980 ) Reagan , shot and died on the operating table, but was quickly revived. The was kept secret.
2000 ) Bush stole this election, Gore got more votes, even in Florida. If that election was on the level, or they did a recount. G W Busch would be dead by now, so we know he did not win.
There is nobody who is keen on giving the 2020 election a shot.
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7/14/2016 2:02:04 AM
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At 7/13/2016 11:55:07 PM, Foodiesoul wrote:
Kanye West must NEVER become president! Period.

He's so selfish and full of himself! He should just stick to rapping!

Same with Clinton, and arguably Sanders.
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7/14/2016 2:27:56 AM
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At 7/14/2016 1:26:45 AM, xus00HAY wrote:
What you have failed to take into consideration Peters is the zero year effect.
A president who wins an election in a year ending in zero, will lose his life while in office.
1800) the election was a tie with both men getting the same number of electoral votes. Congress gave the job to Jefferson.
1820 ) James Monroe ran for re-election unopposed
1840 ) William Henry Harrison.. Died a few months after he was inaugurated.
1860 ) Lincoln ; shot
1880 ) Garfield ; shot
1900 ) McKinley ; shot , Teddy Roosevelt won as vice president and was shot too ,but he recovered.
1920 ) Warren G. Harding, food poisoning
1940 ) Franklin D Roosevelt, Kept getting re-elected until he died of old age.
1960 ) Kennedy .. shot
1980 ) Reagan , shot and died on the operating table, but was quickly revived. The was kept secret.
2000 ) Bush stole this election, Gore got more votes, even in Florida. If that election was on the level, or they did a recount. G W Busch would be dead by now, so we know he did not win.
There is nobody who is keen on giving the 2020 election a shot.

Conspiracy theory!
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7/14/2016 5:10:14 PM
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A very insightful analysis, I must admit. Very interesting, all around. However, I think that Paul Ryan and/or Marco Rubio will possibly run for president in 2020, depending of course on the outcome of this election. Candidates frequently say no initially and later change their minds.
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7/14/2016 5:20:23 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
I don't think Cory Booker will run in 2020. He'll run when he has it in the bag - and he WILL have it in the bag someday.

Assuming Clinton wins in 2016, I don't think she (or another Democrat) would win in 2020.

A Republican will probably win in 2020 and 2024. Cory Booker 2028 is my guess. He'll be 59 then. Sounds about right.
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7/15/2016 2:42:35 AM
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Sorry Peters, we can't come up with an answer to that because it will be someone who is old and expects to be dead in 4 years because of health problems. Nobody can make an accurate prediction on that before 2019.
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7/18/2016 3:27:56 PM
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Relevance bump.
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7/21/2016 7:11:43 PM
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Lyin' Ted bump.
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7/28/2016 11:14:36 PM
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For the Democratic side we can now add 13) Mayor Bill de Blasio: Unlike Hillary, de Blasio won"t need to prove his commitment to solving income inequality or to rolling back welfare reform, or his antipathy to supposedly racist police tactics. He will position himself as a practical progressive. He will fend off potential challenges from the even-more radical Left by pointing to his executive experience. Elizabeth Warren, he will say, may know what it takes to run a faculty meeting, but not a city of 8 million people. He will say that he entered office promising to end the racially motivated police tactic known as stop-and-frisk " and did end it. He will say that he promised to bring universal pre-K to tens of thousands of underprivileged children " and did. He will say that he promised to give illegal immigrants ID cards so that they could access city services " and did (http://www.nationalreview.com...).

For the Republican side, we can add 18) U.S. Representative Justin Amash: Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) is considered the most high profile libertarian Republican in Congress after Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.), making national waves with his staunch opposition to the National Security Agency"s controversial metadata collection program. Along with libertarian firebrand Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), Amash is one of two congressmen who are generally considered the most beloved by the Ron Paul-inspired liberty movement. "Rare: Many libertarians are dying to know: Would you consider running for president some day? Justin Amash: It"s important that we have a strong libertarian voice running for president. And it"s important that we win. So, yes." (http://rare.us...).

19) U.S. Senator Bob Corker: Corker, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has been an early Trump supporter, foreign policy tutor and potential running mate. Corker is well thought of among Senate colleagues and is not considered a fiery ideologue. Corker had been critical about Trump's positions on blocking Muslims from entering the country. "What someone would need to do is sit down and say,'Is this a way that I can have a great impact?'" he said. "What kind of relationship do I have to this person? And am I going to have the freedom to do things that one chooses?" (http://www.timesfreepress.com...).

20) U.S. Senator Joni Ernst: Ernst in June 2014 won a five-person GOP primary by pitching herself as a full-spectrum Republican who could appeal to conservatives and more moderate voters. She claimed 92 of the state's 99 counties and 56% of the Republican vote, while being outspent by a wealthy competitor. She is Iowa's first female member of Congress, and she's the nation's first female military veteran in the U.S. Senate. So far, she has made a mark for herself by co-sponsoring legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act and by blasting President Obama's proposed budget. She voted for the Keystone XL pipeline, and against a wind energy tax credit (http://www.usatoday.com...).
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RookieApologist
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7/28/2016 11:24:43 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Would love to see Ted Cruz win, but he isn't charismatic enough and is too far right for most Republicans let alone Independents. Wish Mike Lee would run. He's a true conservative like Cruz but is much more charismatic and is better at pointing out liberal hypocrisy.
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7/29/2016 12:24:12 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
I want to see a monarchy installed. Both parties already love dynasties. Why stop at titty rubbing when you could just slide it home and be done with?