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YYW
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7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.
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7/15/2016 4:32:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I was waiting for this post. Who are you backing now?
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/15/2016 4:33:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:32:54 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I was waiting for this post. Who are you backing now?

I'm not voting.

I hate Mike Pence. He is a vile, disgusting man; and Trump will lose the election with this pick. He made the exact same mistake Romney did.
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7/15/2016 4:34:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:33:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:32:54 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I was waiting for this post. Who are you backing now?

I'm not voting.

I hate Mike Pence. He is a vile, disgusting man; and Trump will lose the election with this pick. He made the exact same mistake Romney did.

I was rooting for Newt Gingrich, but his pick was completely idiotic.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
YYW
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7/15/2016 4:35:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:34:46 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:33:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:32:54 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I was waiting for this post. Who are you backing now?

I'm not voting.

I hate Mike Pence. He is a vile, disgusting man; and Trump will lose the election with this pick. He made the exact same mistake Romney did.

I was rooting for Newt Gingrich, but his pick was completely idiotic.

Gingrich would have been a better pick, and I hate Newt.... which really tells you how much I hate Mike Pence.
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YYW
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7/15/2016 4:36:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Really, there is almost no one Trump could have picked worse than Mike Pence, other than Todd Atkins, or Rick Santorum.
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7/15/2016 4:38:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:35:29 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:34:46 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:33:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:32:54 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I was waiting for this post. Who are you backing now?

I'm not voting.

I hate Mike Pence. He is a vile, disgusting man; and Trump will lose the election with this pick. He made the exact same mistake Romney did.

I was rooting for Newt Gingrich, but his pick was completely idiotic.

Gingrich would have been a better pick, and I hate Newt.... which really tells you how much I hate Mike Pence.

Who would've been the best pick in your opinion, and is there any chance that you would vote for Trump?
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
YYW
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7/15/2016 4:39:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:38:25 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:35:29 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:34:46 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:33:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:32:54 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I was waiting for this post. Who are you backing now?

I'm not voting.

I hate Mike Pence. He is a vile, disgusting man; and Trump will lose the election with this pick. He made the exact same mistake Romney did.

I was rooting for Newt Gingrich, but his pick was completely idiotic.

Gingrich would have been a better pick, and I hate Newt.... which really tells you how much I hate Mike Pence.

Who would've been the best pick in your opinion, and is there any chance that you would vote for Trump?

If Mike Pence is not the VP pick, I will vote for Trump unless he picks someone worse. But Mike Pence's being chosen is enough for me to turn my back on Trump.

Trump's VP pick was ultimately irrelevant, unless he picked a piece of complete_shit like Pence.
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7/15/2016 4:41:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:39:44 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:38:25 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:35:29 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:34:46 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:33:43 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:32:54 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I was waiting for this post. Who are you backing now?

I'm not voting.

I hate Mike Pence. He is a vile, disgusting man; and Trump will lose the election with this pick. He made the exact same mistake Romney did.

I was rooting for Newt Gingrich, but his pick was completely idiotic.

Gingrich would have been a better pick, and I hate Newt.... which really tells you how much I hate Mike Pence.

Who would've been the best pick in your opinion, and is there any chance that you would vote for Trump?

If Mike Pence is not the VP pick, I will vote for Trump unless he picks someone worse. But Mike Pence's being chosen is enough for me to turn my back on Trump.

Trump's VP pick was ultimately irrelevant, unless he picked a piece of complete_shit like Pence.

Pence is really disliked in Indiana, and for good reason. Granted, I think all private property should be able to discriminate, but Pence is still garbage.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/15/2016 4:42:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

He doesn't seem like someone who is afraid of the gays at all.
YYW
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7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.
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7/15/2016 4:44:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I didn't think you could do it in the end, but I agree. This pushes a fair number of potential crossover voters out. Pence is a a$$.
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7/15/2016 4:45:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:44:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:23:34 PM, YYW wrote:
Mike Pence is a piece of homophobic garbage. Trump lost my vote by picking him.

I didn't think you could do it in the end, but I agree. This pushes a fair number of potential crossover voters out. Pence is a a$$.

Yeah. Trump will lose a lot of independents with Pence, just like Romney did with Ryan. Trump's pick could not have been more stupid.
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7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.
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7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?
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7/15/2016 4:47:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

Yeah, because all the liberals were boycotting Indiana.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/15/2016 4:48:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Strictly speaking ..... A VP doesn't do too much. I would imagine that Gingrich probably advised Trump to pick Pence for VP .... So that he could maybe do something more substantial like secretary of defense or state.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.
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7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?
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7/15/2016 4:54:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?

No, unless it tramples on someone else's rights.
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7/15/2016 4:54:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:54:22 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?

No, unless it tramples on someone else's rights.

Yes, you think gay people existing denies people's religious freedom. That is unreasonable.
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7/15/2016 4:55:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:54:22 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?

No, unless it tramples on someone else's rights.

You:

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7/15/2016 4:57:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Pence wants to deport illegals and is good on guns. He sucks on trade agreements, which I can live with as the other issues matter much more.
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7/15/2016 4:58:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:54:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:54:22 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?

No, unless it tramples on someone else's rights.

Yes, you think gay people existing denies people's religious freedom. That is unreasonable.

No I don't. You are putting words in my mouth.
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7/15/2016 4:58:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:58:25 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:54:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:54:22 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?

No, unless it tramples on someone else's rights.

Yes, you think gay people existing denies people's religious freedom. That is unreasonable.

No I don't. You are putting words in my mouth.

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7/15/2016 4:59:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:57:03 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
Pence wants to deport illegals and is good on guns. He sucks on trade agreements, which I can live with as the other issues matter much more.

Agree. I would have preferred a more conservative pick, and a more conservative nominee.
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7/15/2016 5:01:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?

Name one constitution right that gays don't have??
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7/15/2016 5:02:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 4:58:59 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:58:25 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:54:51 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:54:22 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?

No, unless it tramples on someone else's rights.

Yes, you think gay people existing denies people's religious freedom. That is unreasonable.

No I don't. You are putting words in my mouth.

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Not worth the time. We disagree, move on.
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7/15/2016 5:02:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/15/2016 5:01:42 PM, Robkwoods wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:51:06 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:48:46 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:47:20 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:46:30 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:43:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 7/15/2016 4:41:57 PM, RookieApologist wrote:
The main thing I don't like about Pence is that he caved on the Religious Freedom Law.

The fact that he defended it is why I hate him. That law has nothing to do with religious freedom.

I realize that. The reason you don't like him is one of the reasons I do, except that he caved.

So you hate gay people then?

No I don't hate anyone. I just disagree with just about everything gay.

And because you disagree with being gay, you think they should be denied constitutional rights?

Name one constitution right that gays don't have??

Equal protection under the law.
Trump's Criminal Campaign and Presidency:

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