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7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.
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7/16/2016 9:33:11 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Our analysis shows that Corbyn was thoroughly delegitimised as a political actor from the moment he became a prominent candidate and even more so after he was elected as party leader," Dr Bart Cammaerts, the project director concluded.

"These results relating to sources and "voice" are evidently troublesome from a democratic perspective.

"Allowing an important and legitimate political actor, ie the leader of the main opposition party, to develop their own narrative and have a voice in the public space is paramount in a democracy.
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7/16/2016 9:34:12 PM
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This is also why I think the UK media is even worse than media in the US.
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7/16/2016 10:00:37 PM
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Yep, they've been doing that throughout; this is why some members of the public and those further to the right have such misguided perceptions of him. It's rather too easy to dismiss Corbyn than actually objectively address any of his viewpoints--both for the media and opposing parties.

This kind of thing seems to happen with anyone who opposes establishment politics, however: https://www.theguardian.com...
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7/16/2016 10:31:21 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

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7/16/2016 10:35:17 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/16/2016 9:34:12 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is also why I think the UK media is even worse than media in the US.

Well, remember this is only about the Print Media and much of that is owned by NewsCorp or is aligned with the Tories. The only one of those I even bother with is the Guardian.
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7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.
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And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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7/16/2016 11:08:24 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.

I find it perfectly moral to destroy a candidate with such a terrible economic policy. He's a pro EU idiot. The dogs can have him, for all I care.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/17/2016 12:27:02 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/16/2016 11:08:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.

I find it perfectly moral to destroy a candidate with such a terrible economic policy. He's a pro EU idiot. The dogs can have him, for all I care.

That's not really a good representation of him..
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7/17/2016 12:28:41 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:27:02 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:08:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.

I find it perfectly moral to destroy a candidate with such a terrible economic policy. He's a pro EU idiot. The dogs can have him, for all I care.

That's not really a good representation of him..

Sure it is. Corbyn is the British equivalent of Jill Stein, and we all know what I think of Stein.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/17/2016 12:32:04 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/16/2016 11:08:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.

I find it perfectly moral to destroy a candidate with such a terrible economic policy.

And what is it that you find so terrible about his economic policy?

He's a pro EU idiot.

So, according to that logic: does being pro-E.U automatically make you an idiot? Or is he just an idiot who's pro E.U? In which case, you still haven't explained why he's an idiot.

The dogs can have him, for all I care.
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7/17/2016 12:35:41 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:28:41 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:27:02 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:08:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.

I find it perfectly moral to destroy a candidate with such a terrible economic policy. He's a pro EU idiot. The dogs can have him, for all I care.

That's not really a good representation of him..

Sure it is. Corbyn is the British equivalent of Jill Stein, and we all know what I think of Stein.

Issues you have with him aside - how can you argue against him when you presumably got any of his policy from the media that was just proved to be purposefully misrepresenting all of his views?
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7/17/2016 12:36:42 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:32:04 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:08:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.

I find it perfectly moral to destroy a candidate with such a terrible economic policy.

And what is it that you find so terrible about his economic policy?

Poor fiscal policy and his idea of a "people's quantitative easing" monetary stimulus plan.


He's a pro EU idiot.

So, according to that logic: does being pro-E.U automatically make you an idiot? Or is he just an idiot who's pro E.U? In which case, you still haven't explained why he's an idiot.

No, he's an idiot who's pro EU.


The dogs can have him, for all I care.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/17/2016 12:37:36 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:35:41 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:28:41 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:27:02 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:08:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.

I find it perfectly moral to destroy a candidate with such a terrible economic policy. He's a pro EU idiot. The dogs can have him, for all I care.

That's not really a good representation of him..

Sure it is. Corbyn is the British equivalent of Jill Stein, and we all know what I think of Stein.

Issues you have with him aside - how can you argue against him when you presumably got any of his policy from the media that was just proved to be purposefully misrepresenting all of his views?

I've looked into his policies and labour policies extensively. I've seen his speeches and I can deduce my conclusion from that.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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7/17/2016 12:40:22 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/16/2016 10:00:37 PM, Emilrose wrote:
Yep, they've been doing that throughout; this is why some members of the public and those further to the right have such misguided perceptions of him. It's rather too easy to dismiss Corbyn than actually objectively address any of his viewpoints--both for the media and opposing parties.

This kind of thing seems to happen with anyone who opposes establishment politics, however: https://www.theguardian.com...

It's pretty bad. This is why I wasn't unhappy with even Trump when he revoked press credentials for a certain news media source here. The private media I think is especially bad, and people should actively fight it, and counterbalances like fact checkers should be pushed much further.
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7/17/2016 12:54:36 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:40:22 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:00:37 PM, Emilrose wrote:
Yep, they've been doing that throughout; this is why some members of the public and those further to the right have such misguided perceptions of him. It's rather too easy to dismiss Corbyn than actually objectively address any of his viewpoints--both for the media and opposing parties.

This kind of thing seems to happen with anyone who opposes establishment politics, however: https://www.theguardian.com...

It's pretty bad. This is why I wasn't unhappy with even Trump when he revoked press credentials for a certain news media source here. The private media I think is especially bad, and people should actively fight it, and counterbalances like fact checkers should be pushed much further.

I agree, sadly most media outlets have an agenda to promote but it's still pretty irresponsible; given that most people don't necessarily question what they see/read--especially if they already have some bias towards the matter.
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Commentator on Hillary Clinton: 'If Clinton is now what passes for progressive, maybe this country deserves Trump.'

Commentator on British parliament: 'All that talent in one place, where is Ebola when you need it?'

John Kerry on words: 'These aren't just words, folks.'
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7/17/2016 12:58:25 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:54:36 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:40:22 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:00:37 PM, Emilrose wrote:
Yep, they've been doing that throughout; this is why some members of the public and those further to the right have such misguided perceptions of him. It's rather too easy to dismiss Corbyn than actually objectively address any of his viewpoints--both for the media and opposing parties.

This kind of thing seems to happen with anyone who opposes establishment politics, however: https://www.theguardian.com...

It's pretty bad. This is why I wasn't unhappy with even Trump when he revoked press credentials for a certain news media source here. The private media I think is especially bad, and people should actively fight it, and counterbalances like fact checkers should be pushed much further.

I agree, sadly most media outlets have an agenda to promote but it's still pretty irresponsible; given that most people don't necessarily question what they see/read--especially if they already have some bias towards the matter.

https://lh3.ggpht.com...'t+just+teach+your+children+to+read..+Teach+them+to+question+what+they+read.+Teach+them+to+question+everything+George+Carlin2.jpg
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7/17/2016 12:59:12 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:58:25 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:54:36 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:40:22 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:00:37 PM, Emilrose wrote:
Yep, they've been doing that throughout; this is why some members of the public and those further to the right have such misguided perceptions of him. It's rather too easy to dismiss Corbyn than actually objectively address any of his viewpoints--both for the media and opposing parties.

This kind of thing seems to happen with anyone who opposes establishment politics, however: https://www.theguardian.com...

It's pretty bad. This is why I wasn't unhappy with even Trump when he revoked press credentials for a certain news media source here. The private media I think is especially bad, and people should actively fight it, and counterbalances like fact checkers should be pushed much further.

I agree, sadly most media outlets have an agenda to promote but it's still pretty irresponsible; given that most people don't necessarily question what they see/read--especially if they already have some bias towards the matter.

Goddamn it DDO.
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7/17/2016 1:10:32 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:36:42 AM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:32:04 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:08:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 11:07:26 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:51:24 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:32:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk...

This is all I need to say "fvck you" to the anti-Corbyn crowd.

Corbyn is a worthless moron. Whatever happens to him, he deserves.

That's extremely amoral, gutless, and sets a bad precedent.

I find it perfectly moral to destroy a candidate with such a terrible economic policy.

And what is it that you find so terrible about his economic policy?

Poor fiscal policy and his idea of a "people's quantitative easing" monetary stimulus plan.

Actually, he has some pretty decent economic ideas--such as improving the tax system, printing more money (which would boost the economy)...and putting a pay cap on people (I.E top bosses) that earn extremely high wages; this would inevitably aide more growth. Under the Conservative government, the U.K's economy has done virtually nothing but stagnate--moreover, borrowing has actually increased since the last government thus leaving more debt.

He's a pro EU idiot.

So, according to that logic: does being pro-E.U automatically make you an idiot? Or is he just an idiot who's pro E.U? In which case, you still haven't explained why he's an idiot.

No, he's an idiot who's pro EU.

Still haven't enlighted me on how he's an idiot...though.

The dogs can have him, for all I care.
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7/17/2016 1:11:59 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/17/2016 12:58:25 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:54:36 AM, Emilrose wrote:
At 7/17/2016 12:40:22 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/16/2016 10:00:37 PM, Emilrose wrote:
Yep, they've been doing that throughout; this is why some members of the public and those further to the right have such misguided perceptions of him. It's rather too easy to dismiss Corbyn than actually objectively address any of his viewpoints--both for the media and opposing parties.

This kind of thing seems to happen with anyone who opposes establishment politics, however: https://www.theguardian.com...

It's pretty bad. This is why I wasn't unhappy with even Trump when he revoked press credentials for a certain news media source here. The private media I think is especially bad, and people should actively fight it, and counterbalances like fact checkers should be pushed much further.

I agree, sadly most media outlets have an agenda to promote but it's still pretty irresponsible; given that most people don't necessarily question what they see/read--especially if they already have some bias towards the matter.

https://lh3.ggpht.com...'t+just+teach+your+children+to+read..+Teach+them+to+question+what+they+read.+Teach+them+to+question+everything+George+Carlin2.jpg

Exactly ))
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Commentator on Hillary Clinton: 'If Clinton is now what passes for progressive, maybe this country deserves Trump.'

Commentator on British parliament: 'All that talent in one place, where is Ebola when you need it?'

John Kerry on words: 'These aren't just words, folks.'
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7/17/2016 1:55:23 AM
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Actually, he has some pretty decent economic ideas--such as improving the tax system, printing more money (which would boost the economy)...and putting a pay cap on people (I.E top bosses) that earn extremely high wages; this would inevitably aide more growth. Under the Conservative government, the U.K's economy has done virtually nothing but stagnate--moreover, borrowing has actually increased since the last government thus leaving more debt.

Pretty decent is not the term I would use for the policies you just listed. In fact, here are his policies, and my explanations for their immeasurable stupidity.

1.On the economy
Corbyn is opposed to austerity and plans to bring down the deficit by growing the economy and taxing the wealthy instead.

He intends to introduce a "people"s quantitative easing", which would allow the Bank of England to print money to invest in large-scale housing, energy, transport and digital projects, partly through a national investment bank.

Corbyn says he will fund this by reducing the "tax gap" and ending corporate tax reliefs.

Explanation: Expansionary fiscal policy has the simple goal of expanding aggregate demand. The issue with his policy is that growing the economy is not an effect of a higher tax burden. In fact, Britain already has an extremely high tax burden, and paired with the overwhelming regulations and the remainder of his policies (should they go into effect), a tax raise would result in an almost insolvent business sector and a sharp incline in prices. There's a reason why oil prices are much cheaper in the United States than they are in Britain, or the rest of Europe for that matter.

On the basis of quantitative easing. Boy, is this a beauty. "People's quantitative easing" has to be the most idiotic term ever to be used by any politician, and this is a new low for the likes of Corbyn himself. Quantitative easing programs are an irresponsible monetary policy in which more money is printed to add into the economy. Paired with the stagnating British economy, you would see a severe devaluation of the Pound Sterling and an almost sharp incline in prices, while seeing no change at all in overall wealth. You cannot invest money into a sector by simply printing it.

2. On tax
Corbyn says there is "20bn in tax debt uncollected by HMRC every year and another "20bn in tax avoidance and a further "80bn in tax evasion that needs to be addressed.

Explanation: there's really nothing to say for this. I'm assuming he wants to make sure that these billions are collected.

3. On housing
Corbyn would introduce rent controls in expensive places like central London so that families on welfare are not pushed out of the area, which he says is an example of "social cleansing". He will also suspend council right-to-buy schemes in such areas and will lift borrowing restrictions on councils so that they can build more than half of the 250,000 new homes he says are needed each year.

Corbyn has proposed the idea of linking private rents to local average earnings and introducing a right to buy for private tenants of large-scale landlords, a scheme that would be funded by withdrawing some of the "14bn of tax allowances given to buy-to-let landlords.

Explanation: Rent control is initially imposed on the argument that the supply of housing is not "elastic""i.e., that a housing shortage cannot be immediately made up, no matter how high rents are allowed to rise. Therefore, it is contended, the government, by forbidding increases in rents, protects tenants from extortion and exploitation without doing any real harm to landlords and without discouraging new construction.

This argument is defective even on the assumption that the rent control will not long remain in effect. It overlooks an immediate consequence. If landlords are allowed to raise rents to reflect a monetary inflation and the true conditions of supply and demand, individual tenants will economize by taking less space. This will allow others to share the accommodations that are in short supply. The same amount of housing will shelter more people, until the shortage is relieved.

Rent control, however, encourages wasteful use of space. It discriminates in favor of those who already occupy houses or apartments in a particular city or region at the expense of those who find themselves on the outside. Permitting rents to rise to the free market level allows all tenants or would-be tenants equal opportunity to bid for space. Under conditions of monetary inflation or real housing shortage, rents would rise just as surely if landlords were not allowed to set an asking price, but were allowed merely to accept the highest competitive bids of tenants.

4. On immigration
Corbyn has consistently argued that immigration is not a drain on the economy and has campaigned on behalf of asylum seekers, most recently over the need to rescue Mediterranean refugees. He has said the debate on immigration has been "poisoned" and that migration is a global phenomenon that has been going on for hundreds of years.

Explanation: he is utterly wrong on this. Immigrants are a net negative on the British economy due to its large welfare system.

5. On public ownership
Corbyn plans to renationalise the energy companies to bring energy prices back down. He said privatisation of the sector has created a "false market" which allows for a great deal of money to be made by gas and electricity companies at the expense of everyone else.

Corbyn also plans to renationalise the railways, which he says will allow the public to "get the benefit" of the current investment in infrastructure. He said:

I believe in public ownership, but I have never favoured the remote nationalised model of the postwar era. Like a majority of the population and a majority of even Tory voters, I want the railways back in public ownership. But public control should mean just that: so we should have passengers, rail workers and government too, cooperatively running the railways ... in our interests and not for private profit.

Explanation: Nationalizing the railways isn't as stupid as nationalizing the energy sector. I would like to see him try, and then watch as energy quality dips down and prices skyrocket.

All of this is courtesy of the guardian.


Still haven't enlighted me on how he's an idiot...though.

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7/18/2016 6:34:59 PM
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At 7/16/2016 9:34:12 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is also why I think the UK media is even worse than media in the US.

The strategies of privately owned newspapers are the business of their owners/ shareholders. It's true the print press in the uk is generally to the right but there are left wing papers such as the guardian, the observer, the mirror and the morning star. Right wing newspapers circulating in greater numbers in my opinion can be explained by the type of people who generally buy newspapers. They generally tend to be older people with less interest in the internet and social media who are often more conservative. Younger people often obtain their news from the internet where in many areas such as social media the majority of people express left wing views.

The fact is Cornyn is a socialist. You can't expect right wing papers to write favourably about him. Forcing them to be politically neutral is censorship. I oppose censorship in the strongest terms. A free media is neccessary to hold everyone in the public eye to account.
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7/18/2016 6:51:51 PM
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At 7/16/2016 10:00:37 PM, Emilrose wrote:
Yep, they've been doing that throughout; this is why some members of the public and those further to the right have such misguided perceptions of him. It's rather too easy to dismiss Corbyn than actually objectively address any of his viewpoints--both for the media and opposing parties.

This kind of thing seems to happen with anyone who opposes establishment politics, however: https://www.theguardian.com...

Do you think that press censorship should be used? What other options are there for controlling what privately owned newspapers print?

The left wing papers make similar negative stories about conservative party politicians. You have to accept certain news outlets are biased and take every opportunity to attack the opposition even when it involves exaggeration and speculation. If UK citizens dislike the right wing papers they have plenty of left wing papers to choose from.

People on the right don't like Corbyn whatsoever. They often know his positions quite well but misrepresent his opinions to make him look a worse potential leader than he really is. When someone seems to have a misguided opinion on something it's often because they see a few things they don't like and look for other reasons to enforce that view further often using speculation and rumours to back up their views which is obviously very frustrating if you are a supporter of the candidate in question. Quite simply it's human nature.
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7/18/2016 6:56:14 PM
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At 7/18/2016 6:34:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:34:12 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is also why I think the UK media is even worse than media in the US.

The strategies of privately owned newspapers are the business of their owners/ shareholders. It's true the print press in the uk is generally to the right but there are left wing papers such as the guardian, the observer, the mirror and the morning star. Right wing newspapers circulating in greater numbers in my opinion can be explained by the type of people who generally buy newspapers. They generally tend to be older people with less interest in the internet and social media who are often more conservative. Younger people often obtain their news from the internet where in many areas such as social media the majority of people express left wing views.

The fact is Cornyn is a socialist. You can't expect right wing papers to write favourably about him. Forcing them to be politically neutral is censorship. I oppose censorship in the strongest terms. A free media is neccessary to hold everyone in the public eye to account.

There is a wide line between bias reporting and false reporting
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7/18/2016 7:06:21 PM
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At 7/18/2016 6:56:14 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 6:34:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:34:12 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is also why I think the UK media is even worse than media in the US.

The strategies of privately owned newspapers are the business of their owners/ shareholders. It's true the print press in the uk is generally to the right but there are left wing papers such as the guardian, the observer, the mirror and the morning star. Right wing newspapers circulating in greater numbers in my opinion can be explained by the type of people who generally buy newspapers. They generally tend to be older people with less interest in the internet and social media who are often more conservative. Younger people often obtain their news from the internet where in many areas such as social media the majority of people express left wing views.

The fact is Cornyn is a socialist. You can't expect right wing papers to write favourably about him. Forcing them to be politically neutral is censorship. I oppose censorship in the strongest terms. A free media is neccessary to hold everyone in the public eye to account.

There is a wide line between bias reporting and false reporting

Would you use censorship to ensure politically neutral reporting? Your welcome to that opinion but I disagree. I believe in a free press.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

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7/18/2016 7:11:02 PM
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At 7/18/2016 7:06:21 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 6:56:14 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 6:34:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:34:12 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is also why I think the UK media is even worse than media in the US.

The strategies of privately owned newspapers are the business of their owners/ shareholders. It's true the print press in the uk is generally to the right but there are left wing papers such as the guardian, the observer, the mirror and the morning star. Right wing newspapers circulating in greater numbers in my opinion can be explained by the type of people who generally buy newspapers. They generally tend to be older people with less interest in the internet and social media who are often more conservative. Younger people often obtain their news from the internet where in many areas such as social media the majority of people express left wing views.

The fact is Cornyn is a socialist. You can't expect right wing papers to write favourably about him. Forcing them to be politically neutral is censorship. I oppose censorship in the strongest terms. A free media is neccessary to hold everyone in the public eye to account.

There is a wide line between bias reporting and false reporting

Would you use censorship to ensure politically neutral reporting? Your welcome to that opinion but I disagree. I believe in a free press.

No, I would call them out when they report things which are untrue and I would encourage media outlets to have higher standards of fact checking and reporting. I do not have a problem with bias per say, but I do have a problem with lying and journalists failing to perform their duty by towing the line.
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7/18/2016 7:19:14 PM
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At 7/18/2016 7:11:02 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 7:06:21 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 6:56:14 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 6:34:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:34:12 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is also why I think the UK media is even worse than media in the US.

The strategies of privately owned newspapers are the business of their owners/ shareholders. It's true the print press in the uk is generally to the right but there are left wing papers such as the guardian, the observer, the mirror and the morning star. Right wing newspapers circulating in greater numbers in my opinion can be explained by the type of people who generally buy newspapers. They generally tend to be older people with less interest in the internet and social media who are often more conservative. Younger people often obtain their news from the internet where in many areas such as social media the majority of people express left wing views.

The fact is Cornyn is a socialist. You can't expect right wing papers to write favourably about him. Forcing them to be politically neutral is censorship. I oppose censorship in the strongest terms. A free media is neccessary to hold everyone in the public eye to account.

There is a wide line between bias reporting and false reporting

Would you use censorship to ensure politically neutral reporting? Your welcome to that opinion but I disagree. I believe in a free press.

No, I would call them out when they report things which are untrue and I would encourage media outlets to have higher standards of fact checking and reporting. I do not have a problem with bias per say, but I do have a problem with lying and journalists failing to perform their duty by towing the line.

It's up to everyone else to give the newspaper in question bad press for exaduration, lying and false reporting. If an offence is committed the wronged party can take legal action against the paper.
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7/18/2016 7:19:55 PM
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At 7/18/2016 7:19:14 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 7:11:02 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 7:06:21 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 6:56:14 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 7/18/2016 6:34:59 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 7/16/2016 9:34:12 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
This is also why I think the UK media is even worse than media in the US.

The strategies of privately owned newspapers are the business of their owners/ shareholders. It's true the print press in the uk is generally to the right but there are left wing papers such as the guardian, the observer, the mirror and the morning star. Right wing newspapers circulating in greater numbers in my opinion can be explained by the type of people who generally buy newspapers. They generally tend to be older people with less interest in the internet and social media who are often more conservative. Younger people often obtain their news from the internet where in many areas such as social media the majority of people express left wing views.

The fact is Cornyn is a socialist. You can't expect right wing papers to write favourably about him. Forcing them to be politically neutral is censorship. I oppose censorship in the strongest terms. A free media is neccessary to hold everyone in the public eye to account.

There is a wide line between bias reporting and false reporting

Would you use censorship to ensure politically neutral reporting? Your welcome to that opinion but I disagree. I believe in a free press.

No, I would call them out when they report things which are untrue and I would encourage media outlets to have higher standards of fact checking and reporting. I do not have a problem with bias per say, but I do have a problem with lying and journalists failing to perform their duty by towing the line.

It's up to everyone else to give the newspaper in question bad press for exaduration, lying and false reporting. If an offence is committed the wronged party can take legal action against the paper.

Exactly