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Greyparrot
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8/9/2016 12:46:59 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
Why are people so happy to relieve themselves of the responsibility of the selection of supreme court, which has far, far greater and lasting powers than the presidency.

What a shame and a waste.
Greyparrot
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8/9/2016 12:58:47 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 12:53:34 AM, Double_R wrote:
To prevent the biggest buffoon that has ever run for office from being our next president.

If Hillary were to be found mentally unfit, would you still decide to abstain from voting and relinquish control of the SCOTUS to the conservatives? I think not. You don't appear to have that level of insanity.
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8/9/2016 1:02:43 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 12:58:47 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 8/9/2016 12:53:34 AM, Double_R wrote:
To prevent the biggest buffoon that has ever run for office from being our next president.

If Hillary were to be found mentally unfit, would you still decide to abstain from voting and relinquish control of the SCOTUS to the conservatives? I think not. You don't appear to have that level of insanity.

First of all, if Hillary believed that Global Warming was a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese government and actually thought that defaulting on our national debts was potentially a good economic strategy... I'd vote for Rosie O'Donnell over her.

But to be clear... You support Trump only because you believe he will appoint conservative judges? Is that correct?
idoubtit
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8/9/2016 1:02:49 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
Being a buffoon or a narcissist, or any of the other descriptions of Trump that are being thrown around, doesn't have anything to do with how well he would run the country, improve the economy, bring back jobs, secure our borders, tackle terrorism, etc. Those things would instead be very much negatively affected by a president with a history of corruption, selling favors for money, non-existant security for classified emails, etc., such as Hillary.
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8/9/2016 1:58:16 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 12:53:34 AM, Double_R wrote:
To prevent the biggest buffoon that has ever run for office from being our next president.
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8/9/2016 2:17:13 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 1:02:49 AM, idoubtit wrote:
Being a buffoon or a narcissist, or any of the other descriptions of Trump that are being thrown around, doesn't have anything to do with how well he would run the country, improve the economy, bring back jobs, secure our borders, tackle terrorism, etc. Those things would instead be very much negatively affected by a president with a history of corruption, selling favors for money, non-existant security for classified emails, etc., such as Hillary.

This is just false in so many ways. The President has much more value than just implementing policy in the country, he also has to deal with foreign policy, represent the American people, meet world leaders, etc.

Trump fails to control himself when someone disagrees with him. Just look at last week when he chose to attack a fallen soldier's family. He obviously knew, and all his advisors knew that attacking a Gold Star family would hurt him, and thus his advisors obviously told him not to, but he simply can't control himself, and instead attacked the family. Someone who has no self control around people who disagree with him would not end well. When a president has to come to a table and make a leader agree with him, and thus make polices that help America, he will fail and ultimately make the situation worse by creating a rivalry between himself and the leader.

Besides that, his policies are absolutely terrible. As even Newt Gingrich has admitted that Trumps tax plan will add 11 trillion dollars to the national debt
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org...

His border wall is one of the dumbest ideas ever thought of. Both he and clinton are campaigning on bringing down isil, theres no difference there. The rest just don't work because of his terrible policies.

And the scandal part doesn't work given that Trump has more scandals than Hillary, such as having an affair with his wife, scamming people will Trump U, not knowing that Russia invaded Ukrain, making fun of people with disabilities, etc. And this is just like the past month, there are like 30 years to go back to. The fact that people bring up Clinton scandals in light of this is bogus
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8/9/2016 2:31:01 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 2:25:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
It's clear most people are under the delusion that the presidency is more powerful than the SCOTUS.

The SCOTUS is more powerful than the presidents however the president is the one that does negotiations and is officially recognized as the country's leader, the SCOTUS also does domestic policies only and how do you know who trump appoints would be sane knowing him.
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8/9/2016 3:21:06 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 2:25:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
It's clear most people are under the delusion that the presidency is more powerful than the SCOTUS.

Hillary is far more likely to pick justices that I'll agree with.
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8/9/2016 3:22:38 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 12:46:59 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
Why are people so happy to relieve themselves of the responsibility of the selection of supreme court, which has far, far greater and lasting powers than the presidency.

What a shame and a waste.

They'd prefer we brought THIS back into the Whitehouse...

(Link in next post)
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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8/9/2016 3:23:01 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
Greyparrot
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8/9/2016 3:35:55 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 3:21:06 AM, Burzmali wrote:
At 8/9/2016 2:25:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
It's clear most people are under the delusion that the presidency is more powerful than the SCOTUS.

Hillary is far more likely to pick justices that I'll agree with.

See, this is a sane person.
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8/9/2016 11:02:45 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 3:21:06 AM, Burzmali wrote:
At 8/9/2016 2:25:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
It's clear most people are under the delusion that the presidency is more powerful than the SCOTUS.

Hillary is far more likely to pick justices that I'll agree with.

So you want an anti-American justice. Go live in Iran then.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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8/9/2016 3:53:53 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 12:46:59 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
Why are people so happy to relieve themselves of the responsibility of the selection of supreme court, which has far, far greater and lasting powers than the presidency.

What a shame and a waste.

I don't trust either with the next supreme court selections.
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8/9/2016 4:13:18 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 2:25:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
It's clear most people are under the delusion that the presidency is more powerful than the SCOTUS.

No. What most people understand is nominating SCOTUS justices should not be done by a buffoon.

Don't go around shifting blame - it is people like you who put your party in this spot. You talked all primary season about "destroying the party". Well, you got your wish. You broke it. Don't blame people for not voting for your broken sh1t.
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8/9/2016 4:16:45 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 11:02:45 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/9/2016 3:21:06 AM, Burzmali wrote:
At 8/9/2016 2:25:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
It's clear most people are under the delusion that the presidency is more powerful than the SCOTUS.

Hillary is far more likely to pick justices that I'll agree with.

So you want an anti-American justice. Go live in Iran then.

Another fine example of the ignorance you seem to enjoy vomiting all over this site, bronto. Well done.
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8/9/2016 4:19:05 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 12:53:34 AM, Double_R wrote:
To prevent the biggest buffoon that has ever run for office from being our next president.

But Obama already became President.... twice...
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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8/9/2016 4:27:35 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 4:19:05 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 8/9/2016 12:53:34 AM, Double_R wrote:
To prevent the biggest buffoon that has ever run for office from being our next president.

But Obama already became President.... twice...

We could argue about Obama, but please... You guys picked Bush... TWICE. Why do you think you have any high ground to claim on this. No, you have chosen, yet again, a complete moron to lead your partys ticked, and people are not falling for it.
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8/9/2016 4:28:05 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 4:27:35 PM, TBR wrote:
At 8/9/2016 4:19:05 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 8/9/2016 12:53:34 AM, Double_R wrote:
To prevent the biggest buffoon that has ever run for office from being our next president.

But Obama already became President.... twice...

We could argue about Obama, but please... You guys picked Bush... TWICE. Why do you think you have any high ground to claim on this. No, you have chosen, yet again, a complete moron to lead your partys ticked, and people are not falling for it.

Bush is a moron too, I'll agree there. The bushisms are pretty funny though
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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8/9/2016 4:32:18 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 4:28:05 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 8/9/2016 4:27:35 PM, TBR wrote:
At 8/9/2016 4:19:05 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 8/9/2016 12:53:34 AM, Double_R wrote:
To prevent the biggest buffoon that has ever run for office from being our next president.

But Obama already became President.... twice...

We could argue about Obama, but please... You guys picked Bush... TWICE. Why do you think you have any high ground to claim on this. No, you have chosen, yet again, a complete moron to lead your partys ticked, and people are not falling for it.

Bush is a moron too, I'll agree there. The bushisms are pretty funny though

Yup. He was the biggest dope to run the top of the ticket, That is, till NOW. The GOP can't help it. Its a race to find the dumbest of the dumb to head their party.
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8/9/2016 4:34:04 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 4:32:18 PM, TBR wrote:
At 8/9/2016 4:28:05 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 8/9/2016 4:27:35 PM, TBR wrote:
At 8/9/2016 4:19:05 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 8/9/2016 12:53:34 AM, Double_R wrote:
To prevent the biggest buffoon that has ever run for office from being our next president.

But Obama already became President.... twice...

We could argue about Obama, but please... You guys picked Bush... TWICE. Why do you think you have any high ground to claim on this. No, you have chosen, yet again, a complete moron to lead your partys ticked, and people are not falling for it.

Bush is a moron too, I'll agree there. The bushisms are pretty funny though

Yup. He was the biggest dope to run the top of the ticket, That is, till NOW. The GOP can't help it. Its a race to find the dumbest of the dumb to head their party.

The Democrats failed at that because Bernie "gib me dat" Sanders wasn't given the nomination, luckily.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
Greyparrot
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8/9/2016 4:51:02 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 3:53:53 PM, Robkwoods wrote:
At 8/9/2016 12:46:59 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
Why are people so happy to relieve themselves of the responsibility of the selection of supreme court, which has far, far greater and lasting powers than the presidency.

What a shame and a waste.

I don't trust either with the next supreme court selections.

The Congress leaders pick the nominees though.... The president is just a sockpuppet. Even obamacare was literally "Pelosicare" why do you think it was 7000 pages long?
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8/9/2016 4:52:16 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 4:51:02 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 8/9/2016 3:53:53 PM, Robkwoods wrote:
At 8/9/2016 12:46:59 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
Why are people so happy to relieve themselves of the responsibility of the selection of supreme court, which has far, far greater and lasting powers than the presidency.

What a shame and a waste.

I don't trust either with the next supreme court selections.

The Congress leaders pick the nominees though.... The president is just a sockpuppet. Even obamacare was literally "Pelosicare" why do you think it was 7000 pages long?

This is true. Do you trust congress though?
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8/9/2016 4:56:59 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 4:52:16 PM, Robkwoods wrote:
At 8/9/2016 4:51:02 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 8/9/2016 3:53:53 PM, Robkwoods wrote:
At 8/9/2016 12:46:59 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
Why are people so happy to relieve themselves of the responsibility of the selection of supreme court, which has far, far greater and lasting powers than the presidency.

What a shame and a waste.

I don't trust either with the next supreme court selections.

The Congress leaders pick the nominees though.... The president is just a sockpuppet. Even obamacare was literally "Pelosicare" why do you think it was 7000 pages long?

This is true. Do you trust congress though?

After Trump wrecks the establishment party presidential facade, the public can then move on to that part of the government that is in the single digits for approval, once the scapegoat is removed.
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8/9/2016 5:18:09 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 4:16:45 PM, Burzmali wrote:
At 8/9/2016 11:02:45 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/9/2016 3:21:06 AM, Burzmali wrote:
At 8/9/2016 2:25:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
It's clear most people are under the delusion that the presidency is more powerful than the SCOTUS.

Hillary is far more likely to pick justices that I'll agree with.

So you want an anti-American justice. Go live in Iran then.

Another fine example of the ignorance you seem to enjoy vomiting all over this site, bronto. Well done.

The one paying her campaign more than anyone is anti feminism, anti lgbt, and anti American. So guess who's gonna run our fuc*ing country...I'd ignore all the scandals and allegiance to foreign oligarchs and prove I'm just as fuc*ing stupid as is humanly possible and bow before her assassinating lordship like a lemming clown. You're a sheep.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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8/9/2016 6:11:26 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 5:18:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/9/2016 4:16:45 PM, Burzmali wrote:
At 8/9/2016 11:02:45 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/9/2016 3:21:06 AM, Burzmali wrote:
At 8/9/2016 2:25:27 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
It's clear most people are under the delusion that the presidency is more powerful than the SCOTUS.

Hillary is far more likely to pick justices that I'll agree with.

So you want an anti-American justice. Go live in Iran then.

Another fine example of the ignorance you seem to enjoy vomiting all over this site, bronto. Well done.

The one paying her campaign more than anyone is anti feminism, anti lgbt, and anti American. So guess who's gonna run our fuc*ing country...I'd ignore all the scandals and allegiance to foreign oligarchs and prove I'm just as fuc*ing stupid as is humanly possible and bow before her assassinating lordship like a lemming clown. You're a sheep.

Wow, it just keeps coming, and out of both ends. Impressive. Really, you're approaching a Michael Savage level of crazy. Keep going, man! You can do it!
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8/9/2016 8:03:26 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/9/2016 6:34:46 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 8/9/2016 5:10:24 PM, Semiya wrote:
The Supreme Court shouldn't be political in the first place.

Nice dream.

Dream? That's what the Founders intended.