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8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM
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Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.
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8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM
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Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.
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8/29/2016 9:08:52 PM
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At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Bwahahahahaha
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8/29/2016 9:09:49 PM
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At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Yeah. That's why the administer religious fatwahs to burn down churches.
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8/29/2016 9:20:56 PM
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At 8/29/2016 9:09:49 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Yeah. That's why the administer religious fatwahs to burn down churches.

"Were Allah not to check people by means of others, there would have been demolished the monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is often mentioned."

(Surat Al-Hajj 22:40)

Hasan Al-Basri comments on this verse, saying:

"The houses of worship for non-Muslim citizens are defended by the believers."
"Praise Allah."
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8/29/2016 9:22:59 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

That's silly. next you will tell christians to take off their crucifix necklaces...
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8/29/2016 9:23:01 PM
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At 8/29/2016 9:20:56 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 8/29/2016 9:09:49 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Yeah. That's why the administer religious fatwahs to burn down churches.

"Were Allah not to check people by means of others, there would have been demolished the monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is often mentioned."

(Surat Al-Hajj 22:40)

Hasan Al-Basri comments on this verse, saying:

"The houses of worship for non-Muslim citizens are defended by the believers."

And in real life on planet Earth? Muslim nations are gongenitally hostile to all nonmuslims.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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8/29/2016 9:25:06 PM
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At 8/29/2016 9:22:59 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

That's silly. next you will tell christians to take off their crucifix necklaces...

Why? A necklace doesn't turn you into a death trap of entangled wet clothes teetering and toying with drowning. Put on a ninja outfit and try to swim. Also try to identify someone wearing a ninja outfit.
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8/29/2016 9:26:57 PM
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At 8/29/2016 9:22:59 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

That's silly. next you will tell christians to take off their crucifix necklaces...

And what if those women don't want to wear it but do it because they have to? Shall we just stand back as they are dehumanised?
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8/29/2016 9:29:09 PM
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At 8/29/2016 9:22:59 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

That's silly. next you will tell christians to take off their crucifix necklaces...

You're supposed to be the protector of women's rights. Why are only Conservatives interested in protecting women all the sudden?
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8/29/2016 9:43:35 PM
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At 8/29/2016 9:23:01 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/29/2016 9:20:56 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 8/29/2016 9:09:49 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Yeah. That's why the administer religious fatwahs to burn down churches.

"Were Allah not to check people by means of others, there would have been demolished the monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is often mentioned."

(Surat Al-Hajj 22:40)

Hasan Al-Basri comments on this verse, saying:

"The houses of worship for non-Muslim citizens are defended by the believers."

And in real life on planet Earth? Muslim nations are gongenitally hostile to all nonmuslims.

Real life examples? Too many to choose from, but amongst them, Egyptian Muslims protecting Coptic Christians in prayer during the Arab SPring (https://parliamentofreligions.org...)

But I can tell you're resorting to circular reasoning. If I bring up examples from the Quran and Hadith stating explicitly the freedom of religion you'll say "no real life examples", when I bring up real life examples you'll merely say "they're not good Muslims for protecting Christians."
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8/29/2016 9:48:42 PM
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At 8/29/2016 9:43:35 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 8/29/2016 9:23:01 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/29/2016 9:20:56 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
At 8/29/2016 9:09:49 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Yeah. That's why the administer religious fatwahs to burn down churches.

"Were Allah not to check people by means of others, there would have been demolished the monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is often mentioned."

(Surat Al-Hajj 22:40)

Hasan Al-Basri comments on this verse, saying:

"The houses of worship for non-Muslim citizens are defended by the believers."

And in real life on planet Earth? Muslim nations are gongenitally hostile to all nonmuslims.

Real life examples? Too many to choose from, but amongst them, Egyptian Muslims protecting Coptic Christians in prayer during the Arab SPring (https://parliamentofreligions.org...)

But I can tell you're resorting to circular reasoning. If I bring up examples from the Quran and Hadith stating explicitly the freedom of religion you'll say "no real life examples", when I bring up real life examples you'll merely say "they're not good Muslims for protecting Christians."

Abrigation Uther. We both are fully aware of deception in Islam. Lying, twisting, and destroying is what Islam does best.
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8/30/2016 1:41:16 PM
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At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

I would rather that "our females" not comply with those rules either.
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8/30/2016 1:43:10 PM
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At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Did you just defend laws forcing people to cover their hair while criticizing bans on such covers? That sounds like an odd contradiction. To be sure, I'm very liberal about this issue, but on both sides (i.e. I am neither fine with banning the burqini nor fine with forcing people to cover themselves).
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8/30/2016 1:50:33 PM
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At 8/30/2016 1:43:10 PM, tejretics wrote:
Did you just defend laws forcing people to cover their hair while criticizing bans on such covers? That sounds like an odd contradiction.
He's a self-hating Muslim traumatized by having to see his mother in "conservative dress" while growing up. Sad, really.
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8/30/2016 4:06:36 PM
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At 8/30/2016 1:50:33 PM, NHN wrote:
At 8/30/2016 1:43:10 PM, tejretics wrote:
Did you just defend laws forcing people to cover their hair while criticizing bans on such covers? That sounds like an odd contradiction.
He's a self-hating Muslim traumatized by having to see his mother in "conservative dress" while growing up. Sad, really.

Apparently it's okay to show your as*...as long as your not a woman.

Liberalism 101: we hate oppression, sexism, and homophobia! Unless...it's Islam. Muslims are a magical exception...
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8/30/2016 4:08:26 PM
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At 8/30/2016 1:50:33 PM, NHN wrote:
At 8/30/2016 1:43:10 PM, tejretics wrote:
Did you just defend laws forcing people to cover their hair while criticizing bans on such covers? That sounds like an odd contradiction.
He's a self-hating Muslim traumatized by having to see his mother in "conservative dress" while growing up. Sad, really.

Since when do Conservatives have to protect women's rights from liberals? My how the days have changed...
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8/30/2016 4:53:53 PM
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At 8/30/2016 4:06:36 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/30/2016 1:50:33 PM, NHN wrote:
He's a self-hating Muslim traumatized by having to see his mother in "conservative dress" while growing up. Sad, really.
Apparently it's okay to show your as*...as long as your not a woman.
What? Seeing your mom in "conservative dress" made you want to see her a$$? And daddy didn't let you? This is getting weirder...
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8/30/2016 5:12:15 PM
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At 8/30/2016 1:43:10 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Did you just defend laws forcing people to cover their hair while criticizing bans on such covers? That sounds like an odd contradiction. To be sure, I'm very liberal about this issue, but on both sides (i.e. I am neither fine with banning the burqini nor fine with forcing people to cover themselves).

The relevant factor according to Uther is whether the religion dictates it. So if France had a state religion that bans people from being fully dressed at beaches, then tourists from the middle east would have to comply with this restriction too. Such an argument does not apply to secular states, of course, but it does apply to theocracies.
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8/30/2016 5:23:43 PM
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At 8/30/2016 4:53:53 PM, NHN wrote:
At 8/30/2016 4:06:36 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/30/2016 1:50:33 PM, NHN wrote:
He's a self-hating Muslim traumatized by having to see his mother in "conservative dress" while growing up. Sad, really.
Apparently it's okay to show your as*...as long as your not a woman.
What? Seeing your mom in "conservative dress" made you want to see her a$$? And daddy didn't let you? This is getting weirder...

Just stop your just making innapropriate comments and not saying anything Intelligent or constructive. Fixed
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8/30/2016 5:46:25 PM
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At 8/30/2016 5:23:43 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 8/30/2016 4:53:53 PM, NHN wrote:
At 8/30/2016 4:06:36 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/30/2016 1:50:33 PM, NHN wrote:
He's a self-hating Muslim traumatized by having to see his mother in "conservative dress" while growing up. Sad, really.
Apparently it's okay to show your as*...as long as your not a woman.
What? Seeing your mom in "conservative dress" made you want to see her a$$? And daddy didn't let you? This is getting weirder...
Just stop your just making innapropriate comments and not saying anything Intelligent or constructive. Fixed
I was simply restating a bizarre reply on his behalf. But it's interesting to see how hypocritical bigots are the ones looking to shut down debate when someone tries to take a closer look at the pathological, Islamophobic person who makes all these strange statements.
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8/31/2016 3:32:43 AM
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At 8/30/2016 5:12:15 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 8/30/2016 1:43:10 PM, tejretics wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:56:34 PM, UtherPenguin wrote:
Difference is that western religions do not require women to be uncovered, whilst Muslim women have to wear the hijab. If the woman was required by religion to go with their hair uncoversd, then that's a different story. Unlike Nice at the moment, the Shariah is far more accommodating to the practises of other religions.

Did you just defend laws forcing people to cover their hair while criticizing bans on such covers? That sounds like an odd contradiction. To be sure, I'm very liberal about this issue, but on both sides (i.e. I am neither fine with banning the burqini nor fine with forcing people to cover themselves).

The relevant factor according to Uther is whether the religion dictates it. So if France had a state religion that bans people from being fully dressed at beaches, then tourists from the middle east would have to comply with this restriction too. Such an argument does not apply to secular states, of course, but it does apply to theocracies.

I know, and I'm saying that's a ridiculous position.
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8/31/2016 4:09:37 AM
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At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

Yup.
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8/31/2016 6:45:42 AM
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At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

The West doesn't have dress rules, that's what makes us better than Muslims nations. You would have us be just as bad as they are because you really are just as bad as they are.
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8/31/2016 12:47:54 PM
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At 8/31/2016 6:45:42 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

The West doesn't have dress rules, that's what makes us better than Muslims nations. You would have us be just as bad as they are because you really are just as bad as they are.

If we are better than Islamic countries, why would we want to bring millions who think that way here. Cultural suicide? Maybe we can become the next Sweden with our blonde women dying their hair black to not get mob raped in the street. Sound nice?
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8/31/2016 1:34:11 PM
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At 8/31/2016 12:47:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:45:42 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

The West doesn't have dress rules, that's what makes us better than Muslims nations. You would have us be just as bad as they are because you really are just as bad as they are.

If we are better than Islamic countries, why would we want to bring millions who think that way here. Cultural suicide? Maybe we can become the next Sweden with our blonde women dying their hair black to not get mob raped in the street. Sound nice?

Obviously it sounds nice to you.
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8/31/2016 4:25:03 PM
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At 8/31/2016 1:34:11 PM, desmac wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:47:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:45:42 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

The West doesn't have dress rules, that's what makes us better than Muslims nations. You would have us be just as bad as they are because you really are just as bad as they are.

If we are better than Islamic countries, why would we want to bring millions who think that way here. Cultural suicide? Maybe we can become the next Sweden with our blonde women dying their hair black to not get mob raped in the street. Sound nice?

Obviously it sounds nice to you.

That's what liberals are pushing on the West. Tollerance of Sharia, which leads, to Sharia influence, which leads to full sharia. Islam gets influence it fights for more. Maybe the West could learn from the ambition and defensive mindset of other cultures in how to protect your culture and values. The West is the only culture mindless enough to think foreigners coming in and in droves won't change our culture to the foreigners' way of thinking. All other cultures laugh at Western liberalism because it doesn't make lick of sense. Liberalism is looking at a snake assuming it won't bite, feedingit, nursing it, then wonders why the fangs are now stuck in their arm. Sadly, my only response is juvenile. "Well duh "
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8/31/2016 4:29:36 PM
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At 8/31/2016 4:25:03 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/31/2016 1:34:11 PM, desmac wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:47:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:45:42 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

The West doesn't have dress rules, that's what makes us better than Muslims nations. You would have us be just as bad as they are because you really are just as bad as they are.

If we are better than Islamic countries, why would we want to bring millions who think that way here. Cultural suicide? Maybe we can become the next Sweden with our blonde women dying their hair black to not get mob raped in the street. Sound nice?

Obviously it sounds nice to you.

That's what liberals are pushing on the West. Tollerance of Sharia, which leads, to Sharia influence, which leads to full sharia. Islam gets influence it fights for more. Maybe the West could learn from the ambition and defensive mindset of other cultures in how to protect your culture and values. The West is the only culture mindless enough to think foreigners coming in and in droves won't change our culture to the foreigners' way of thinking. All other cultures laugh at Western liberalism because it doesn't make lick of sense. Liberalism is looking at a snake assuming it won't bite, feedingit, nursing it, then wonders why the fangs are now stuck in their arm. Sadly, my only response is juvenile. "Well duh "

Your multitudinous rantings here a more than a mere "well duh", but probably mean about the same.
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8/31/2016 5:27:54 PM
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At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

Look I don't care what they wear. I completely get why people think wearing it is obnoxious and annoying, but I don't support legislation to literally ban it. Why? Because there would be do difference between us and the muslim world. If we claim that they are oppressors, it makes no sense we do the same thing.

If you don't want this in our country, it's our job as citizens to use our free speech and speak against it. Or if that is not possible, restrict immigration from countries that support this practice.
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8/31/2016 6:53:17 PM
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At 8/31/2016 4:29:36 PM, desmac wrote:
At 8/31/2016 4:25:03 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/31/2016 1:34:11 PM, desmac wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:47:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:45:42 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 8/29/2016 8:44:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Our females go to a Muslim nation what do they do? Wear a head covering. Why? They are in a Muslim house. We don't wear buqinis in the West. If our females must comply to their rules in their house, they can comply with our rules in our house.

The West doesn't have dress rules, that's what makes us better than Muslims nations. You would have us be just as bad as they are because you really are just as bad as they are.

If we are better than Islamic countries, why would we want to bring millions who think that way here. Cultural suicide? Maybe we can become the next Sweden with our blonde women dying their hair black to not get mob raped in the street. Sound nice?

Obviously it sounds nice to you.

That's what liberals are pushing on the West. Tollerance of Sharia, which leads, to Sharia influence, which leads to full sharia. Islam gets influence it fights for more. Maybe the West could learn from the ambition and defensive mindset of other cultures in how to protect your culture and values. The West is the only culture mindless enough to think foreigners coming in and in droves won't change our culture to the foreigners' way of thinking. All other cultures laugh at Western liberalism because it doesn't make lick of sense. Liberalism is looking at a snake assuming it won't bite, feedingit, nursing it, then wonders why the fangs are now stuck in their arm. Sadly, my only response is juvenile. "Well duh "

Your multitudinous rantings here a more than a mere "well duh", but probably mean about the same.

In other words women should be equal, lgbt's should be equal, etc etc...unless it's Islam. Then you flip inside out into an antiliberal liberal when it comes to Islam. So whendid moderates and conservatives have to protect women and gays from liberals? Looks like liberals are the new Nazis. Thank goodness they aren't violent...oh wait. Those aren't conservatives blocking highways, killing cops, overtaking conventions, and having a lovefest with the religious cult of death.
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