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9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein
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9/9/2016 12:40:06 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

1.Donald Trump
2.Hillary Clinton
3.Gary Johnson
4.Jill stein
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9/9/2016 12:43:21 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
1. Donald Trump
2. Jill Stein
3. Gary Johnson
4. Hillary Clinton
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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9/9/2016 12:45:26 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
1. Gary Johnson (not gonna vote for him because he doesn't have a chance)
2. Donald Trump
3. Jill Stein
4. Hillary Clinton
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9/9/2016 12:52:31 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
1. Hillary Clinton
2. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein

I can't bring myself to include trump on this list -- it, in a way, implies that there is some circumstance under which he would be an appropriate resort... and that simply isn't the case.
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9/9/2016 12:56:08 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
1. Harambe
2. The ghost of Harambe
3. Harambe's next of kin
4. Anyone who has their dick out for Harambe
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9/9/2016 12:58:57 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
1. Stein
2. Clinton
3. Johnson
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1,864: Trump
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9/9/2016 12:59:04 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
1. Trump
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2. Stein
3. Clinton
4. Johnson
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9/9/2016 1:02:37 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
1. Johnson
2. Trump
3. Stein
4. Clinton
Suh dude

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9/9/2016 1:03:41 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 12:56:08 AM, ford_prefect wrote:
1. Harambe
2. The ghost of Harambe
3. Harambe's next of kin
4. Anyone who has their dick out for Harambe

Trump will give a speech with his dick out for Harambe if you vote for him.

He may have to find something to support it, though.

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"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
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9/9/2016 1:03:44 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
My reasons:

1. Trump- All powerful god-emperor

2. Stein- Mad twitter game

3. Clinton- The perfect candidate to transition us to third world status. Blatantly corrupt and deeply evil, she's exactly what you'd expect of a third world leader.

I actually kind of like her. She's like an evil fairytale queen--powerful and untouchable.

4. Johnson- Just a complete loser and degenerate in every way
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"Walmart should have the opportunity to bribe a politician to it's agenda" -Max

"Thett, you're really good at convincing people you're a decent person"-tulle

"You fit the character of Regina George quite nicely"- Sam

: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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9/9/2016 1:14:18 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
Guys, why no Bernie option? Typical bias. Those super delegates will come around any day now.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -
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9/9/2016 1:14:43 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 1:12:20 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
1. Donald trump
0 Jill stein
0 Hillary Clinton
0 Gary Johnson

Imo, they all suck except for Emperor Trump

Fixed for you
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"My name is max. I'm not a big fan of slacks"- Max rapping

"Walmart should have the opportunity to bribe a politician to it's agenda" -Max

"Thett, you're really good at convincing people you're a decent person"-tulle

"You fit the character of Regina George quite nicely"- Sam

: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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9/9/2016 1:19:07 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

I agree with your list
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9/9/2016 2:02:05 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

The same as your list but with Stein at 3 and Clinton at 4. We need Stein to break that glass ceiling.
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9/9/2016 3:07:58 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 2:02:05 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

The same as your list but with Stein at 3 and Clinton at 4. We need Stein to break that glass ceiling.

Why Stein over Clinton?
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9/9/2016 3:43:07 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

1. Jill Stein
2. Gary Johnson
Do I have to rank the other two? They're just so awful
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9/9/2016 3:44:48 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 3:07:58 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/9/2016 2:02:05 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

The same as your list but with Stein at 3 and Clinton at 4. We need Stein to break that glass ceiling.

Why Stein over Clinton?

Because Clinton is awful
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9/9/2016 3:46:39 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 3:07:58 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/9/2016 2:02:05 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

The same as your list but with Stein at 3 and Clinton at 4. We need Stein to break that glass ceiling.

Why Stein over Clinton?

Stein stands no chance, so she isn't a threat to anybody. Furthermore, if she did win at least she wouldn't be corrupt.
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9/9/2016 3:47:20 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 3:43:07 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

1. Jill Stein
2. Gary Johnson
3. Trump/Clinton
Do I have to rank the other two? They're just so awful

fixed
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9/9/2016 3:47:50 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 3:46:39 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/9/2016 3:07:58 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/9/2016 2:02:05 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

The same as your list but with Stein at 3 and Clinton at 4. We need Stein to break that glass ceiling.

Why Stein over Clinton?

Stein stands no chance, so she isn't a threat to anybody. Furthermore, if she did win at least she wouldn't be corrupt.

I think that was the overall reason
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9/9/2016 3:49:20 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 3:47:20 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/9/2016 3:43:07 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

1. Jill Stein
2. Gary Johnson
3. Trump/Clinton
Do I have to rank the other two? They're just so awful

fixed

Still too close to the top for my taste.
Hell Johnson is probably too close to the top given his answer he gave in TPP at the CNN town hall
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9/9/2016 3:51:41 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 3:49:20 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 9/9/2016 3:47:20 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/9/2016 3:43:07 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

1. Jill Stein
2. Gary Johnson
3. Trump/Clinton
Do I have to rank the other two? They're just so awful

fixed

Still too close to the top for my taste.
Hell Johnson is probably too close to the top given his answer he gave in TPP at the CNN town hall

The TPP is less black and white than you think it is, it has its ups and downs.
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9/9/2016 4:27:34 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 3:51:41 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/9/2016 3:49:20 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 9/9/2016 3:47:20 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/9/2016 3:43:07 AM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

1. Jill Stein
2. Gary Johnson
3. Trump/Clinton
Do I have to rank the other two? They're just so awful

fixed

Still too close to the top for my taste.
Hell Johnson is probably too close to the top given his answer he gave in TPP at the CNN town hall

The TPP is less black and white than you think it is, it has its ups and downs.

I am against so called Free Trade agreements in principle, so my stance goes beyond TPP to NAFTA, and the rest of the alphabet soup. This is not to say I support absolute protectionism, as trade itself is not necissarily bad (and to be fair certain elements of protectionism are some time necessary), I personally support fair trade as an alternative to so called free trade.
Also I have specific concerns about specific provisions of the TPP which make it particularly bad. ISDS, intellectual property provisions, the weak environmental provisions relating to air pollution and its disregard for sustainability, the lax enforcement provisions of labor standards (and the relatively weak provisions for labor in general), etc.
I do like the idea of its human rights provisions and the good governance provisions, however the key word there is "idea". The provisions themselves are about as toothless as an armadillo.
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9/9/2016 4:33:36 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

Aha weighted votes.

1. Trump
2. Stein
3. Johnson
4. Clinton
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9/9/2016 4:43:11 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 4:33:36 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

Aha weighted votes.

1. Trump
2. Stein
3. Johnson
4. Clinton

Not really weighted, it's more IRV.
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9/9/2016 4:56:22 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/9/2016 4:33:36 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 9/9/2016 12:16:02 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
Just use this thread to rank the 4 main presidential candidates for 2016. Don't argue too much, just rank them from most favorable to least favorable, and possibly explain your reason.

I'll start;

1. Donald Trump
2. Gary Johnson
3. Hillary Clinton
4. Jill Stein

Aha weighted votes.

1. Trump
2. Stein
3. Johnson
4. Clinton

Stein over Johnson???