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9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*
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9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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Snazzy
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9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.
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9/18/2016 3:36:40 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

What is mindless is that some cultures suck. How do you melting pot with cultures who cut off females' clitorises? You can't. You can't coexist with cultures who see it as normal to behead people, have child brides, and blow yourself into bits. And why the hell should we want to try?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/18/2016 3:40:15 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:36:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

What is mindless is that some cultures suck. How do you melting pot with cultures who cut off females' clitorises? You can't. You can't coexist with cultures who see it as normal to behead people, have child brides, and blow yourself into bits. And why the hell should we want to try?

The liberals are the real islamophobes. They're afraid to fight them because they know what the muslims want to do to us, so they try to make peace with them. That is a huge problem.
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triangle.128k
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9/18/2016 3:42:31 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

Be careful, you'll be labelled as a racist if you speak out against multiculturalism.
Snazzy
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9/18/2016 3:43:43 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:42:31 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

Be careful, you'll be labelled as a racist if you speak out against multiculturalism.

I'd rather speak out against Obama and be labeled a racist than speak out against Hillary and be assassinated.
Disclaimer: This post in no way reflects the views of NBC or any of its affiliates.
triangle.128k
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9/18/2016 3:50:54 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:43:43 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:42:31 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

Be careful, you'll be labelled as a racist if you speak out against multiculturalism.

I'd rather speak out against Obama and be labeled a racist than speak out against Hillary and be assassinated.

i'm just pointing out that the regressive left calls you racist over the littlest things.
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9/18/2016 3:51:42 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:50:54 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:43:43 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:42:31 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

Be careful, you'll be labelled as a racist if you speak out against multiculturalism.

I'd rather speak out against Obama and be labeled a racist than speak out against Hillary and be assassinated.

i'm just pointing out that the regressive left calls you racist over the littlest things.

The regressive left would probably call me a racist because I use a toaster to make toast.
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Axonly
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9/18/2016 4:05:30 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:51:42 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:50:54 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:43:43 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:42:31 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

Be careful, you'll be labelled as a racist if you speak out against multiculturalism.

I'd rather speak out against Obama and be labeled a racist than speak out against Hillary and be assassinated.

i'm just pointing out that the regressive left calls you racist over the littlest things.

The regressive left would probably call me a racist because I use a toaster to make toast.

Not really interested in answering the question, but I would like to point out that this entire thread is a perfect example of the Echo Chamber effect.
Meh!
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9/18/2016 4:35:07 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:51:42 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:50:54 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:43:43 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:42:31 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

Be careful, you'll be labelled as a racist if you speak out against multiculturalism.

I'd rather speak out against Obama and be labeled a racist than speak out against Hillary and be assassinated.

i'm just pointing out that the regressive left calls you racist over the littlest things.

The regressive left would probably call me a racist because I use a toaster to make toast.

The left thinks you are racist if you're not a Democrat. Black nonliberals are racists. Hispanic nonliberals are racists. Arab nonliberals are racist. Black panthers? Misunderstood. Suicide bombers misunderstood. White liberals that hate whites? "Reverse racism is not a thing".
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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9/18/2016 5:28:43 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
I think the type of ideology that the OP is referring to is 'Regressive Left' not Liberals, although many people who are part of the Regressive Left do consider themselves Liberal.

From a civil society perspective, liberalism is about respecting the right of the individual to pursue his or her own individual interests, so long as he or she doesn't harm anyone (and hence break the law). I agree that liberals should speak out against the violation of human rights in many countries around world, not just those which take place in Muslim-majority nations.

I think Trump's comment about 'banning all migration of Muslims' was a little extreme. No migration policy should ever prevent the entry of persons based on their race, ethnicity or religion. What Trump could've said as an alternative that he would 'temporarily suspend all migration from certain countries such as: Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, etc.' but made it clear that persons from other Muslim-majority countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Morocco, etc. are definitely welcome. I think this approach would've appeased both the right and moderates of the country. This way, the migration policy is based on your 'passport' rather than on your race or religion, and it's much easier to police and screen this way: if a person has a passport of a particularly country, then they cannot enter the United States, irrespective of their nationality, religion and race, which would also exclude Christian minorities from those countries. If you start discriminating against people based on religion, how to you screen this? A person could simply lie and say that they are Christian.
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9/18/2016 5:59:29 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
I'm answering these questions against my better judgement.

At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men?

I do acknowledge that fact.

Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?


It's a wrong religious belief. BTW there are Christians who believe gays should be allowed to marry, same as Muslims.

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country?

Because it's islamophobic.

Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant?

Yes. Would you be asking this question if we decided to start profiling Christians because of Christian radicals?

Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?


Did the lynchings and terrorism of the KKK NOT involve more than two radical Christians?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family?

I think it's more about removing the stigma around such a practice and having the freedom to settle or not settle down and start a family.

Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality?

Because it's been stigamitized in unhealthy and toxic ways.

Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America?

You mean a certain subset of values heard by a certain subset of America. The great thing about America is those need not be imposed on everyone.

Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?


Probably. Since when do you care about what those "radicals" think?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people

Because some out right are, and most (not just white people) have socialized unconscious bias towards black people as has been shown numerous times through numerous studies.

and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ?

It's a group of radicals that did it once...

Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least?

Why do you ignore it's less about the specific harm of what your ancestors did to my ancestors, and more about the impact, ongoing aftereffects and how that plays out today?

https://www.thenation.com...

Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

We do. People just like ignore it because it doesn't fit into their narrative. The question also glosses over the distinct difference between violence between private citizens and agents of the state. One party we have higher expectations for because that's what WE pay them for.

Why don't you apply this same logic to your fears about Islamic terrorism? The vast majority of American deaths are cause by Americans - why don't you fix that problem first before you start haranguing Muslims about what they need to do to fix their radical problem?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?


I don't. Women should be drafted to if it comes to that.

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended?

I don't.

Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency?

I don't.

Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?


I don't.
*These questions do not apply to every liberal*
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9/18/2016 6:17:57 AM
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At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men?

Liberals don't do that. Progressives do. Get your terms right. And, in reality, it is only a specific subset of progressives referred to colloquially as social justice warriors ("SJWs").

Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

SJWs do not engage in that activity because of Christians' religious beliefs, and many Christians would disagree with the suggestion that gays should not be allowed to marry.

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country?

That policy is, by definition, Islamophobic, such that it makes sense to call an Islamophobic policy as such. However, there are compelling reasons to be an Islamophobe in this day and age.

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family?

People should live their lives, and you have no right to judge them for it if they are not hurting anyone else.

Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Those are stupid questions. Ask less stupid questions.

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ?

SJWs accuse many of being racists because they think that doing so will motivate non-SJWs to abide by their absurd policy proscriptions. Ironically, what SJW's fail to appreciate is that their act of attempting motivation in this way delegitimizes any policy proposal they could offer. They are simply too blind to appreciate that reality.

Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least?

On a cognitive level, they don't. They just say stupid sh!t to be provocative. See generally Ta Nasi Coates, whose name is even more idiotic than his book.

Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

They believe that even acknowledging facts like "blacks are almost 10 times more likely than white to be involved in violent crime" to be racist. This is mainly because they are more concerned with narrative conformity (read: their bullsh!t) than reality.

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

They have deluded themselves into believing that these problems exist, which they do not. But, that is why they do what they do.

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

This is not something liberals do. Only SJWs, who are not liberals.
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9/18/2016 6:26:00 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men?

Because in the West, where all said criticism is coming from, there are more interactions/complaints against white men because there are way more in the West than Muslims enforcing sharia law. Oh and the Bible contains sexist garbage too [https://www.openbible.info...]. Also yes feminists do point out and criticize sexism in 3rd world countries.

Is it because it's their religious belief?

They have a right to religion just as much as any christian.

How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

What about it? It's an ignorant belief, just as silly as Islam.

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country?

Because it's religious discrimination and unconstitutional.

Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant?

What percent of Muslmis are "radical" - as in violently attacking/plotting to attack the West?

Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

There were 19 9/11 hijackers, 11 hitting the towers. Get your facts right before you form an opinion on things. [http://www.fairus.org...]

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family?

Because there are other things in life besides baby making like a career, hobbies and vacation.

Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality?

Because sexuality is natural - repressing does more harm than good.

Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America?

So? Those values as noted are garbage.

Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Christians dropping bombs and Christians supporting Israel is why they hate the US, not atheists and/or feminists.

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ?

Because there is evidence to support a general state of racism in the US [http://www.debate.org...][http://www.pbs.org...]. Cops have been a very present and violent racist force. [http://photographyisnotacrime.com...]

Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least?

Because whites of today still benefit from the racism of the past simply put.

Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Poverty and ghettoization are pernicious things. But cops who've sworn to uphold the law are not trying to fight crime in an effective manner either and in many cases perpetuate it. Are you familiar with the war on drugs and disparate impact? Civil forfeiture?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

The argument would be no one ought to be drafted regardless of gender.

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended?

Because being quite about the ridiculous offenses of others didn't work.

Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency?

It's not social currency, it's the epistemological awareness of society that is valued. Relatively uncommon experiences accrued by minorities that paint an ugly picture of the majority that's not entirely unfounded given US history.

Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

Christians do the same thing too. Putin's anti-gay propaganda law being a fine modern example.

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*
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9/18/2016 6:36:11 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 6:17:57 AM, YYW wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:

Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least?

On a cognitive level, they don't. They just say stupid sh!t to be provocative. See generally Ta Nasi Coates, whose name is even more idiotic than his book.

*Sigh* It's fairly obvious how, generally speaking, the accumulation of wealth over generations was in favor of whites, especially the rich ones, due to racism hindering blacks from our founding to this day. It's not that hard to understand.

Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

They believe that even acknowledging facts like "blacks are almost 10 times more likely than white to be involved in violent crime" to be racist. This is mainly because they are more concerned with narrative conformity (read: their bullsh!t) than reality.

No, they'll acknowledge the fact, they'll also point to racism, especially by real estate owners and police, as the foundation that created such hostile conditions.
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9/18/2016 6:44:39 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 6:36:11 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 9/18/2016 6:17:57 AM, YYW wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:

Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least?

On a cognitive level, they don't. They just say stupid sh!t to be provocative. See generally Ta Nasi Coates, whose name is even more idiotic than his book.

*Sigh* It's fairly obvious how, generally speaking, the accumulation of wealth over generations was in favor of whites, especially the rich ones, due to racism hindering blacks from our founding to this day. It's not that hard to understand.


No, shh. It's all the fault of the blacks for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. /s

https://www.thenation.com...

Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

They believe that even acknowledging facts like "blacks are almost 10 times more likely than white to be involved in violent crime" to be racist. This is mainly because they are more concerned with narrative conformity (read: their bullsh!t) than reality.

No, they'll acknowledge the fact, they'll also point to racism, especially by real estate owners and police, as the foundation that created such hostile conditions.
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9/18/2016 6:55:39 AM
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At 9/18/2016 6:44:39 AM, popculturepooka wrote:

*Sigh* It's fairly obvious how, generally speaking, the accumulation of wealth over generations was in favor of whites, especially the rich ones, due to racism hindering blacks from our founding to this day. It's not that hard to understand.


No, shh. It's all the fault of the blacks for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. /s

https://www.thenation.com...

well then, some "magical" white shoe polish will make millionaires of every minority, poof!
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9/18/2016 6:56:18 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 3:06:36 AM, Snazzy wrote:
At 9/18/2016 3:03:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/18/2016 12:58:16 AM, Snazzy wrote:
How do you justify calling christian white men misogynists but don't acknowledge the FACT that muslims are told by their holy book that women inferior to men? Is it because it's their religious belief? How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?

Why do you call people islamophobes for wanting to place a ban on muslims entering the country? Is the percent of muslims that are radical even relevant? Did the bombing of the twin towers not take two radical muslims (entering the country)?

Why do you (feminists) encourage women to partake in premarital intercourse and not settle down and start a family? Why do you encourage women to explore their sexuality? Does this not go against the Judeo-Christian values of America? Does this not contribute to the labeling of America by muslims as "The Great Satan"?

Why do you (BLM & Co.) say that white people are prejudiced against black people and then go out and chant things like 'pigs in a blanket' ? Why do you blame us for what our ancestors did to your ancestors when we haven't wronged you in the least? Why don't you focus on lowering the black crime rate and black on black violence before you tell the white people what to do?

Why do you pull for gender equality for only the "good stuff" such as equal pay (the wage gap does not exist), and when the "bad stuff" such as the military draft comes along you suddenly aren't for equality anymore?

Why do you make feminism a competition of who can be the most flamboyantly offended? Why did you turn victimhood into a social currency? Why do you think it's good to remove free speech just because someone says something that offends you?

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Everything was cool, and people weren't especially divided and then? Barack Obama

That's what happens when we elect a multiculturalist.

You havn't elected anybody,Snazzy, nor will you until you are old enough to vote.
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9/18/2016 7:05:16 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 6:55:39 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 9/18/2016 6:44:39 AM, popculturepooka wrote:

*Sigh* It's fairly obvious how, generally speaking, the accumulation of wealth over generations was in favor of whites, especially the rich ones, due to racism hindering blacks from our founding to this day. It's not that hard to understand.


No, shh. It's all the fault of the blacks for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. /s

https://www.thenation.com...

well then, some "magical" white shoe polish will make millionaires of every minority, poof!

And he misses the point. Gee what a shocker.

Let me put it simply, there will always be haves and have nots; ideally what determines who ends up where should not be influenced by race. However we live in an unideal society where racism has had visible and verifiable effects on society. Thus it's necessary to reverse the damages done by showing a form of favoritism where there was once animosity.
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9/18/2016 8:51:29 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 7:05:16 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 9/18/2016 6:55:39 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 9/18/2016 6:44:39 AM, popculturepooka wrote:

*Sigh* It's fairly obvious how, generally speaking, the accumulation of wealth over generations was in favor of whites, especially the rich ones, due to racism hindering blacks from our founding to this day. It's not that hard to understand.


No, shh. It's all the fault of the blacks for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. /s

https://www.thenation.com...

well then, some "magical" white shoe polish will make millionaires of every minority, poof!

And he misses the point. Gee what a shocker.

Let me put it simply, there will always be haves and have nots; ideally what determines who ends up where should not be influenced by race. However we live in an unideal society where racism has had visible and verifiable effects on society. Thus it's necessary to reverse the damages done by showing a form of favoritism where there was once animosity.

If it's so obviously profitable to have white skin, shoe polish is the answer.
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9/18/2016 1:48:37 PM
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"How about the religious belief of Christians that gay people should not be allowed to engage in marriage?"
That is not a religious belief. Gay people are and have been allowed to marry.
Of course they had to marry someone of the opposite sex, but there is no mention of sexual orientation.
Do you have a problem with that? , what, you want to marry, but you don't want to marry a person of the opposite sex?
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9/18/2016 2:05:58 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
Many of you seem to have completely removed the most important part of the original post:

*These questions do not apply to every liberal*

Just because you in particular do/don't do something doesn't mean there are thousands of people who don't/do.

Did the lynchings and terrorism of the KKK NOT involve more than two radical Christians?

KKK members not not "radical christians". They did not find any motivation in the scripture to kill blacks, Jews, Catholics, etc.

Because it's islamophobic.

Liberals are the ones who are islamophobic. They know what the muslims want to do to us, and yet they still want to accept them into the country. Why? Because they're afraid to fight them so they try to make peace with them, which will ultimately bite them and the rest of us in the you-know-what.

Probably. Since when do you care about what those "radicals" think?

They label America as "The Great Satan" to try to get people to take up arms against us and Jihad in the way of Allah. That is why I care what they think.

Why do you ignore it's less about the specific harm of what your ancestors did to my ancestors, and more about the impact, ongoing aftereffects and how that plays out today?

There are roughly twenty-seven million blacks on welfare. There are about eleven million whites on welfare. In 39 states, welfare pays more than an $8 per hour job. This is encouraging people to skip out on college and make an actual decent living because the government will pay them whatever they need.
http://www.statisticbrain.com...

Why don't you apply this same logic to your fears about Islamic terrorism? The vast majority of American deaths are cause by Americans - why don't you fix that problem first before you start haranguing Muslims about what they need to do to fix their radical problem?
Accepting muslims into the country will not be a problem at first. You've got to think long term. Muslims will take over America from the inside if we let in 100,000 plus more. They breed like guppies considering a male muslim is allowed to have more than one wife.

I don't
This seems to be your answer for the rest of the questions and I'd like to bring up the most important part of the thread again:
*These questions do not apply to every liberal*
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9/18/2016 2:29:32 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
Liberals don't do that. Progressives do. Get your terms right. And, in reality, it is only a specific subset of progressives referred to colloquially as social justice warriors ("SJWs").
A majority of progressives are liberals. I tried to round up everything into the smallest group I could.

SJWs do not engage in that activity because of Christians' religious beliefs, and many Christians would disagree with the suggestion that gays should not be allowed to marry.
The Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman. It is true that a lot of them don't disapprove of gay marriage. It is also true that a lot of muslims don't believe in chopping off peoples' heads. I am not comparing chopping off heads to gay marriage, I'm just trying to show that lots of people from every religion disagree with some of its values.

That policy is, by definition, Islamophobic, such that it makes sense to call an Islamophobic policy as such. However, there are compelling reasons to be an Islamophobe in this day and age.
I probably should have worded that question better. I meant something along the lines of "Why do you call people islamophobes for... like it's a bad thing?"

People should live their lives, and you have no right to judge them for it if they are not hurting anyone else.
We all judge people even though none of us are better than the other. It's human nature. You are correct in saying I don't have a right to judge them if they aren't hurting anyone else. They are in fact hurting people, albeit indirectly. Muslim communities look at America and see fornicators, homosexuals, etc. Other people see this too, and the muslims can sometimes persuade them to participate in Jihad.

This is not something liberals do. Only SJWs, who are not liberals.
A majority of SJWs are liberal.

I'm going to leave this here again just to make sure it's known:
*These questions do not apply to every liberal*
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