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Libertarians must form and join militias.

Genius_Intellect
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9/25/2016 1:17:50 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
A libertarian society has minimal government and taxation.

A full-time military requires lots of money. That money can only feasibly come from taxes (nobody's going to just donate). Taxation is undesirable.

A militia requires less funding, as each member can supply their own weapons. At worst, it may entail membership fees to cover the cost of training and a communal arsenal.

Militias only work if every able-bodied person joins. Thus, in order to reduce the imposition of a tax-funded military, militia membership should be mandatory.

It is my contention that, under libertarian philosophy, mandatory militia membership is preferable to a full-time military, as it decreases the net government interference in the life of the individual. Militias would, of course, control their own training schedules and financing.
Stymie13
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9/25/2016 1:23:25 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
With some additional thought (Air Force/navy) that's actually not a half bad idea. Reduces ability to intervene willy nilly, increases liberty in regards to firearms, cuts a huge aspect of corporatism from the government..,.
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9/25/2016 1:24:19 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/25/2016 1:23:25 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
With some additional thought (Air Force/navy) that's actually not a half bad idea. Reduces ability to intervene willy nilly, increases liberty in regards to firearms, cuts a huge aspect of corporatism from the government..,.

Also eliminates the ability to globally police with boots.
Emmarie
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9/25/2016 1:30:03 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/25/2016 1:17:50 AM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
A libertarian society has minimal government and taxation.

A full-time military requires lots of money. That money can only feasibly come from taxes (nobody's going to just donate). Taxation is undesirable.

A militia requires less funding, as each member can supply their own weapons. At worst, it may entail membership fees to cover the cost of training and a communal arsenal.

Militias only work if every able-bodied person joins. Thus, in order to reduce the imposition of a tax-funded military, militia membership should be mandatory.

It is my contention that, under libertarian philosophy, mandatory militia membership is preferable to a full-time military, as it decreases the net government interference in the life of the individual. Militias would, of course, control their own training schedules and financing.
Stymie13
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9/25/2016 1:54:19 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/25/2016 1:24:19 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 9/25/2016 1:23:25 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
With some additional thought (Air Force/navy) that's actually not a half bad idea. Reduces ability to intervene willy nilly, increases liberty in regards to firearms, cuts a huge aspect of corporatism from the government..,.

Also eliminates the ability to globally police with boots.

Yessir. The hurdle of course is the af and navy. Keep them, mothball (can't sell, our technology is 30 years ahead of our competitors). Militias couldn't find those but boots on the ground.... That also hamstrings the fed gov in more than just policing. We'd now have to sell, instead of give military aid to all our 'allies', who really just use us to fund their defense. Cuts out a huge lobbying sector and all that damn senate pork funneled back to their states. Yes some local economies would short term suffer with base closings but why should they be relying on more pork in the first place?

Spending drops precipitously... Taxes could truly be reformed, debt shrinkage....
triangle.128k
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9/25/2016 2:29:57 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/25/2016 1:17:50 AM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
A libertarian society has minimal government and taxation.

A full-time military requires lots of money. That money can only feasibly come from taxes (nobody's going to just donate). Taxation is undesirable.

A militia requires less funding, as each member can supply their own weapons. At worst, it may entail membership fees to cover the cost of training and a communal arsenal.

Militias only work if every able-bodied person joins. Thus, in order to reduce the imposition of a tax-funded military, militia membership should be mandatory.

It is my contention that, under libertarian philosophy, mandatory militia membership is preferable to a full-time military, as it decreases the net government interference in the life of the individual. Militias would, of course, control their own training schedules and financing.

Except that normal civillians shouldn't own military grade equipment... And they shouldn't waste money on buying expensive military equipment either. Stupid idea.

This coming from a Libertarian, because the military is one of the few things that shouldn't be private.
lannan13
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9/25/2016 2:33:02 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/25/2016 2:29:57 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/25/2016 1:17:50 AM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
A libertarian society has minimal government and taxation.

A full-time military requires lots of money. That money can only feasibly come from taxes (nobody's going to just donate). Taxation is undesirable.

A militia requires less funding, as each member can supply their own weapons. At worst, it may entail membership fees to cover the cost of training and a communal arsenal.

Militias only work if every able-bodied person joins. Thus, in order to reduce the imposition of a tax-funded military, militia membership should be mandatory.

It is my contention that, under libertarian philosophy, mandatory militia membership is preferable to a full-time military, as it decreases the net government interference in the life of the individual. Militias would, of course, control their own training schedules and financing.

Except that normal civillians shouldn't own military grade equipment... And they shouldn't waste money on buying expensive military equipment either. Stupid idea.

This coming from a Libertarian, because the military is one of the few things that shouldn't be private.

Why not NAP?
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Genius_Intellect
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9/25/2016 3:24:44 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/25/2016 1:54:19 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
At 9/25/2016 1:24:19 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 9/25/2016 1:23:25 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
With some additional thought (Air Force/navy) that's actually not a half bad idea. Reduces ability to intervene willy nilly, increases liberty in regards to firearms, cuts a huge aspect of corporatism from the government..,.

Also eliminates the ability to globally police with boots.

Yessir. The hurdle of course is the af and navy. Keep them, mothball (can't sell, our technology is 30 years ahead of our competitors). Militias couldn't find those but boots on the ground.... That also hamstrings the fed gov in more than just policing. We'd now have to sell, instead of give military aid to all our 'allies', who really just use us to fund their defense. Cuts out a huge lobbying sector and all that damn senate pork funneled back to their states. Yes some local economies would short term suffer with base closings but why should they be relying on more pork in the first place?

Spending drops precipitously... Taxes could truly be reformed, debt shrinkage....

There's nothing to stop militias from forming coalitions to purchase navies and airforces. They'd have to, if they want to remain competitive against other countries. The inevitable result is a large-scale military formed from a collective of militias. The result is similar to what we've got now, except that said military includes every citizen/resident, is fueled by the right to bear arms, and is essentially democratic in its workings.