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9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...
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9/28/2016 12:18:19 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Too complex.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:19:33 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:18:19 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Too complex.

Yea, I know. Way over your ability. Stick to youtube videos from cranks. More your speed.
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9/28/2016 12:23:27 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

It's not me that's cool with constant immoral surveilance by unworthy men. That would be...

You.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:25:53 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:23:27 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

It's not me that's cool with constant immoral surveilance by unworthy men. That would be...


You.

Who says I support surveillance? I am saying.

1) Snowden us not a hero.
2) The NSA program is older and more complex than you make it sound.
3) You are too stupid to understand the complexity.

Get it? Read it real slow.
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9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:31:45 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:25:53 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:23:27 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

It's not me that's cool with constant immoral surveilance by unworthy men. That would be...


You.

Who says I support surveillance? I am saying.

1) Snowden us not a hero.
2) The NSA program is older and more complex than you make it sound.
3) You are too stupid to understand the complexity.

Get it? Read it real slow.

And oddly I spell better than you...or is auto uncorrect on?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:31:45 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

The NSA's actions have helped to prevent multiple terror attacks in the post-9/11 world. They're a big part of why terrorists here have to resort to primitive, poorly-planned lone wolf attacks.
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9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.
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9/28/2016 12:34:08 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:31:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

The NSA's actions have helped to prevent multiple terror attacks in the post-9/11 world. They're a big part of why terrorists here have to resort to primitive, poorly-planned lone wolf attacks.

Can't wait until they do it to the American people.

Strangely we had no Islamic terrorist attacks in the U.S. post 9/11 until...Obama became President. What changed? Did the NSA get stupider or was it the leader?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:35:29 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:31:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

The NSA's actions have helped to prevent multiple terror attacks in the post-9/11 world. They're a big part of why terrorists here have to resort to primitive, poorly-planned lone wolf attacks.

True enough. Snowden, regardless if the NSA program was right or wrong, aided the very people we are fighting. That is treason.
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9/28/2016 12:35:50 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:34:08 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:31:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

The NSA's actions have helped to prevent multiple terror attacks in the post-9/11 world. They're a big part of why terrorists here have to resort to primitive, poorly-planned lone wolf attacks.

Can't wait until they do it to the American people.

Strangely we had no Islamic terrorist attacks in the U.S. post 9/11 until...Obama became President. What changed? Did the NSA get stupider or was it the leader?

ISIL is what happened.
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9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:38:05 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:35:50 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:34:08 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:31:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

The NSA's actions have helped to prevent multiple terror attacks in the post-9/11 world. They're a big part of why terrorists here have to resort to primitive, poorly-planned lone wolf attacks.

Can't wait until they do it to the American people.

Strangely we had no Islamic terrorist attacks in the U.S. post 9/11 until...Obama became President. What changed? Did the NSA get stupider or was it the leader?

ISIL is what happened.

Yeah? And why was there no ISIS before?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:39:23 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:35:29 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:31:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

The NSA's actions have helped to prevent multiple terror attacks in the post-9/11 world. They're a big part of why terrorists here have to resort to primitive, poorly-planned lone wolf attacks.

True enough. Snowden, regardless if the NSA program was right or wrong, aided the very people we are fighting. That is treason.

So you admit that Hillary is guilty of treason per your own definition.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/28/2016 12:41:26 AM
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At 9/28/2016 12:38:05 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:35:50 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:34:08 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:31:45 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

The NSA's actions have helped to prevent multiple terror attacks in the post-9/11 world. They're a big part of why terrorists here have to resort to primitive, poorly-planned lone wolf attacks.

Can't wait until they do it to the American people.

Strangely we had no Islamic terrorist attacks in the U.S. post 9/11 until...Obama became President. What changed? Did the NSA get stupider or was it the leader?

ISIL is what happened.

Yeah? And why was there no ISIS before?

Because we pulled out of Iraq. It isn't the fault of either President; Bush signed the agreement to pull out whenever the situation appeared stable, and Obama simply oversaw the withdrawal in accordance with this agreement.
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9/28/2016 12:45:31 AM
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At 9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.

Who says the refugees are unvetted? Seriously Btondo, your straw men are endless.
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9/28/2016 12:51:13 AM
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At 9/28/2016 12:45:31 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.

Who says the refugees are unvetted? Seriously Btondo, your straw men are endless.

So...explain it to us. A man crawls out of rubble, has no ID, nothing...and is from a country that has no reliable records on people, and is from Syria, a nation congenitally hostile to the West. Okay...tell us how you vet him.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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9/28/2016 2:17:11 AM
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At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

I guess he isn't a hero for exposing the NSA for breaking the highest level of law.
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9/28/2016 2:22:47 AM
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At 9/28/2016 12:51:13 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:45:31 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.

Who says the refugees are unvetted? Seriously Btondo, your straw men are endless.

So...explain it to us. A man crawls out of rubble, has no ID, nothing...and is from a country that has no reliable records on people, and is from Syria, a nation congenitally hostile to the West. Okay...tell us how you vet him.

Sure. There is written procedures. I will look them up for you. Doubt you will read them, but they are there.
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9/28/2016 3:22:38 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 2:17:11 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

I guess he isn't a hero for exposing the NSA for breaking the highest level of law.

Yup.

National security protocol is not set by SharePoint contractors. Not in my country.
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9/28/2016 4:42:43 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:19:33 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:18:19 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Too complex.

Yea, I know. Way over your ability. Stick to youtube videos from cranks. More your speed.

That's all he's on though. What fun would that be?
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9/29/2016 2:39:51 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 3:22:38 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 2:17:11 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

I guess he isn't a hero for exposing the NSA for breaking the highest level of law.

Yup.

National security protocol is not set by SharePoint contractors. Not in my country.

Exception? Hitlery Clinton
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/29/2016 4:59:18 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/29/2016 2:39:51 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 3:22:38 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 2:17:11 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

I guess he isn't a hero for exposing the NSA for breaking the highest level of law.

Yup.

National security protocol is not set by SharePoint contractors. Not in my country.

Exception? Hitlery Clinton

When did Clinton out a anti terrorism program and flee the country? When was she a low level sharrpoint contractor?
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9/29/2016 5:16:48 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/28/2016 12:51:13 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:45:31 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.

Who says the refugees are unvetted? Seriously Btondo, your straw men are endless.

So...explain it to us. A man crawls out of rubble, has no ID, nothing...and is from a country that has no reliable records on people, and is from Syria, a nation congenitally hostile to the West. Okay...tell us how you vet him.

What vetting did your famil;y undergo when they left Libya and came to America?
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9/29/2016 10:49:36 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/29/2016 5:16:48 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:51:13 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:45:31 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.

Who says the refugees are unvetted? Seriously Btondo, your straw men are endless.

So...explain it to us. A man crawls out of rubble, has no ID, nothing...and is from a country that has no reliable records on people, and is from Syria, a nation congenitally hostile to the West. Okay...tell us how you vet him.

What vetting did your famil;y undergo when they left Libya and came to America?

There's no telling. They found us. We didn't come to them. And of course at that time there was no ISIS to try and vet in the first place.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/29/2016 11:01:25 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/29/2016 10:49:36 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/29/2016 5:16:48 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:51:13 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:45:31 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.

Who says the refugees are unvetted? Seriously Btondo, your straw men are endless.

So...explain it to us. A man crawls out of rubble, has no ID, nothing...and is from a country that has no reliable records on people, and is from Syria, a nation congenitally hostile to the West. Okay...tell us how you vet him.

What vetting did your famil;y undergo when they left Libya and came to America?

There's no telling. They found us. We didn't come to them. And of course at that time there was no ISIS to try and vet in the first place.

Was Al Qaeda operating when you fled Libya?
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9/29/2016 11:10:02 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/29/2016 11:01:25 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/29/2016 10:49:36 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/29/2016 5:16:48 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:51:13 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:45:31 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.

Who says the refugees are unvetted? Seriously Btondo, your straw men are endless.

So...explain it to us. A man crawls out of rubble, has no ID, nothing...and is from a country that has no reliable records on people, and is from Syria, a nation congenitally hostile to the West. Okay...tell us how you vet him.

What vetting did your famil;y undergo when they left Libya and came to America?

There's no telling. They found us. We didn't come to them. And of course at that time there was no ISIS to try and vet in the first place.

Was Al Qaeda operating when you fled Libya?

Well, you see "ThinkBig". I mean desmac. I mean donkey. I digress...

At that time Islamic terrorists were highly confined to their regions, Europe had no influx of Islamists flooding their countries, and liberalism hadn't taken over and gone mad in its immigration worldview, so looking for the jihadi with the bomb wasn't as much of a reality. Nevertheless, the U.S. had no good way to vet us then, still has now way to vet them, and is bringing in ghosts that they have no reliable history on.

So...those Syrians crawl out of their rubble home. No ID. No way to prove who they are. No reliable documentation by Asad. So...how does desmac vet said Syrian today in ISIS world.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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9/29/2016 11:12:11 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/29/2016 11:10:02 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:25 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/29/2016 10:49:36 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/29/2016 5:16:48 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:51:13 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:45:31 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:37:03 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:33:43 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:28:39 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 9/28/2016 12:03:45 AM, TBR wrote:
At 9/27/2016 10:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Edward Snowden in regards to Obama's war on whistleblowers. -

http://youtu.be...

Edward Snowden worked for the NSA, and was a whistleblower against the Obama administration hacking your private information, even using your cell phone to take pictures and video, even spying on people who were innocent of anything while they had sex, lived life, ate dinner, etc etc. This administration was pure evil.

"Snowden" movie trailer-

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

----

Obama tells the press that Snowden was not a patriot...

http://youtu.be...

Snowden is not a hero. Its way to complex to debate with the likes of you, but I will link you to the time-line and lets talk about who is responsible for the overreach of the NSA.

https://www.eff.org...

Explain it to us so I can make fun of you.

What part? That Snowden is not a hero? Well, heroism does not come from being a low-level employee unilaterally (without any idea of the overall effect) outing national secret data in the war on Terror (you know the one, the one fighting Islam). Heros don't flee to Hong Kong, then Russia. No. Snowden gives every whistleblower a nasty precedent.

So with your left hand the NSA prevents Islamic terrorism which is a clear and present danger, and with your right hand we should bring in thousands of unvetted Islamists knowing many will be ISIS militants or at minimum ISIS supporters.

Who says the refugees are unvetted? Seriously Btondo, your straw men are endless.

So...explain it to us. A man crawls out of rubble, has no ID, nothing...and is from a country that has no reliable records on people, and is from Syria, a nation congenitally hostile to the West. Okay...tell us how you vet him.

What vetting did your famil;y undergo when they left Libya and came to America?

There's no telling. They found us. We didn't come to them. And of course at that time there was no ISIS to try and vet in the first place.

Was Al Qaeda operating when you fled Libya?

Well, you see "ThinkBig". I mean desmac. I mean donkey. I digress...

At that time Islamic terrorists were highly confined to their regions, Europe had no influx of Islamists flooding their countries, and liberalism hadn't taken over and gone mad in its immigration worldview, so looking for the jihadi with the bomb wasn't as much of a reality. Nevertheless, the U.S. had no good way to vet us then, still has now way to vet them, and is bringing in ghosts that they have no reliable history on.

So...those Syrians crawl out of their rubble home. No ID. No way to prove who they are. No reliable documentation by Asad. So...how does desmac vet said Syrian today in ISIS world.

What time was that?